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Santorum: "I Was Basically Pro-Choice All My Life, Until I Ran for Congress" (1995)
Philadelphia Magazine ^ | December 1995 | Eric Konigsberg

Posted on 03/17/2012 11:01:02 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

IN THE SUMMER OF 1989, Rick Santorum and a fellow associate at the Pittsburgh law firm of Kirkpatrick and Lockhart left work to drive to Three Rivers Stadium for the firm's annual softball game. Sitting behind the wheel, Santorum popped in a tape, and on came the reedy voice of a man lecturing as if to a classroom.

“Listen,” Santorum said. “Newt Gingrich.”

“Who the hell is Newt Gingrich?” the co-worker asked.

Santorum explained that Gingrich was a congressman from Georgia, and that he was the guy to listen to if you were considering a future in politics. “At the time,” says the co-worker, “I had no idea that was something Rick was interested in.” As it turned out, Santorum was already telling people he was running for Congress in the upcoming election. The tape was something he had ordered from GOPAC, Gingrich's political action committee, full of do-it-yourself campaign tips for aspiring candidates.

In recent years, of course, Gingrich's tutelage of Santorum has taken on a much more direct nature. Last September, Santorum, at 37 a Republican U.S. senator from Pennsylvania, managed the Senate floor debate as it passed its welfare bill, all the while working closely with Gingrich, now speaker of the House of Representatives and the country's most powerful Republican. Santorum, who prior to his election to the Senate last year served two terms in the House with Gingrich, is in fact known on Capitol Hill as Gingrich's protégé and his point man in the Senate. The two meet weekly for early-morning swims at the House gym.

Much of Santorum's record, thus far, has been a series of tantrums. More than a dozen times in his first few months in the Senate, Santorum took to the floor to trash Bill Clinton for not drafting a balanced-budget proposal...

(Excerpt) Read more at phillymag.com ...


TOPICS: Politics
KEYWORDS: 0percentnaralrating; abortion; congress; gingrich; newt; pennsylvania; prochoice; prolife; santorum
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To: Marguerite
First sentence from your link:

Rick Santorum is taking a piss.

A fine piece of journalist you have chosen to post on FR.

141 posted on 03/18/2012 8:10:08 AM PDT by dirtboy
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To: dirtboy
You seem to miss the point.

This is just a small example of what the Left has on Santorum. And they are actually holding back, since there is a real an concerted effort on their side to get Santorum nominated. They have been pranking the primaries in several Open states to do just that. Michigan, Alabama, Mississippi, and any open state for that matter.

I understand your trying to defend Santorum, but what is in store for our side if he gets the nomination, will prove to be a disaster. I firmly believe that.

As far as Newt's record, that is not necessary. Newt's record speaks for itself. His personal issues should not be a factor, but many here have made the primary factor.

On the other hand, all this blind support for a candidate who can do no wrong, when he is not at all, what he is being promoted as being, is why I go out of my way to present facts that prove otherwise.

142 posted on 03/18/2012 8:14:00 AM PDT by PSYCHO-FREEP (If you come to a fork in the road, take it........)
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To: dirtboy

http://www.usnews.com/usnews/news/articles/060616/16santorum.htm

8. He (Rick Santorum) met his wife, Karen Garver Santorum, while trying to recruit her for a summer internship with Kirkpatrick & Lockhart; at the time, she was a law student at the University of Pittsburgh.

9. A Pittsburgh native from a large Irish-Catholic family, Karen Santorum is a former neonatal intensive care nurse and has a law degree from the University of Pittsburgh.

10. As a nursing student at Duquesne University, Karen Santorum lived with Tom Allen, an ob-gyn who had in fact delivered her, and had cofounded Pittsburgh’s first abortion clinic.


143 posted on 03/18/2012 8:14:57 AM PDT by Marguerite (When I'm good, I am very, very good. But! When I'm bad, I'm even better)
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To: Marguerite

Santorum’s “record” shows he endorsed and voted for a PRO CHOICE judges, candidates. His wife was pro choice when he married her.
Santorum is a pious fraud! too bad he has managed to slither his way through so much of the election without being fully vetted. Cain,Perry, Newt were all vetted thoroughly...slinky man has evaded the process. All the christians hear are his little sound bites on porn and prophylactics.
Judicial endorsements..look at the most liberal Clinton judge for the 9th cirucit in Calif...most republicans did not go along with her but Santorum did.
Nominations
Voted for Richard Paez to the 9th Curcuit (cloture)
Voted for Sonia Sotomayor, Circuit Judge
Voted for Richard Holbrooke to be Ambassador to the UN
Voted for Margaret Morrow to be District Judge
Voted twice for Marsha Berzon to the 9th Circuit
Voted for Mary McLaughlin to be District Judge
Voted for Tim Dyk to be District Judge
Voted for James Brady to be District Judge


144 posted on 03/18/2012 8:15:38 AM PDT by katiedidit1 ("This is one race of people for whom psychoanalysis is of no use whatsoever." the Irish)
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To: PSYCHO-FREEP
This is just a small example of what the Left has on Santorum.

Oh, spare me again. They have it on all of the candidates. What they don't have, they will make up, as they did with this headline. And they will twist themselves beyond recognition against any GOP candidate - they will attack Newt for sitting on that loveseat with Pelosi when they applauded it when it happened. That's just one example.

FR should stand for exposing and tearing down liberal hatchet jobs, not giving them veracity by picking them up and using them against the other guy.

145 posted on 03/18/2012 8:17:42 AM PDT by dirtboy
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To: Marguerite
And now Karen Santorum is a home-schooling mom. Something that probably drives liberals nuts.

Rick Santorum was one of the strongest pro-life legislators. Something that drove liberals nuts.

You are linking to left-wing sources to attack a conservative. Something that should drive conservatives nuts.

146 posted on 03/18/2012 8:19:52 AM PDT by dirtboy
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To: Marguerite
Are you even going to address that you linked to a hard-left source in City Paper and an article that opened with the line 'Rick Santorum is taking a piss'?

Or are you just going to continue to find more left-wing slime to throw around on this thread?

147 posted on 03/18/2012 8:22:31 AM PDT by dirtboy
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To: PSYCHO-FREEP
I understand your trying to defend Santorum, but what is in store for our side if he gets the nomination, will prove to be a disaster. I firmly believe that.

The Santorum camp belives the same to be the case about Newt. And the GOP-E believes that about both men. Personally, I think a ham sandwich could beat Obama the way things are going.

Your beliefs about Santorum's electability does not justify using old left-wing attacks against him. We should condemn all such crap, instead of picking up the liberal hatchet jobs and using them.

148 posted on 03/18/2012 8:27:34 AM PDT by dirtboy
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To: dirtboy
We all understand forgiveness, as well as, NONE of us are the same people we were 20 years ago.

It is the Left that has no such understanding. They love to label “hypocrisy” on all Christians. Yet they look the other way in regards to their own double standard.

We understand that. But in order to defeat the enemy, you must first understand them. “Keep your friends close, but keep your enemies ever closer.”

It's time to come to a mutual understanding FRiend, and stop counter punching every other good FReepers input. If we hope to win, we need to find common ground, which explains why we are still losing.

149 posted on 03/18/2012 8:29:39 AM PDT by PSYCHO-FREEP (If you come to a fork in the road, take it........)
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To: katiedidit1
Show where Santorum endorsed these judges. He voted for them, that is not an endorsement. Senators are always picking and choosing their judicial battles.

And I guess that's a pretty easy line of attack since Newt was not in a position as a House member to vote on judges.

You can probably find similar votes by just about any GOP senator.

150 posted on 03/18/2012 8:32:29 AM PDT by dirtboy
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To: katiedidit1

“slinky man has evaded the process”

And Santorum still tries to evade the vetting process.
But it doesn’t work his way.

He claimes to be a “fiscal conservative”, but he didn’t back out from gaming the system when he could.

Between 2001 and 2004, while living around the year in Virginia with his family, Santorum had billed the Penn Hills, PA school district for $100,000 of his children’s cyber school tuition. That was a telling moment for a fiscal conservative who rails against government waste and fraud...


151 posted on 03/18/2012 8:32:46 AM PDT by Marguerite (When I'm good, I am very, very good. But! When I'm bad, I'm even better)
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To: Marguerite

took the taxpayers for a ride ...never a man that abides by his christian convictions. IMO that is STEALING taxpayers hard earned money


152 posted on 03/18/2012 8:35:27 AM PDT by katiedidit1 ("This is one race of people for whom psychoanalysis is of no use whatsoever." the Irish)
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To: PSYCHO-FREEP
Well, I feel very strongly that FReepers should NEVER use liberal hatchet jobs as their own political weapons. It only gives them veracity.

I think this level of political skullduggery needs to stop on both sides. If we don't step back from the abyss, we'll only do the coyote all the way to the bottom.

Spirited debate is one thing. This method of assimilating liberal attacks reaches the level of betrayal of conservative values in the name of partisanship - exactly what the GOP-E does and what we all normally fight against. If we stoop to such lows to make a political point, we're little better than the GOP-E types.

153 posted on 03/18/2012 8:37:27 AM PDT by dirtboy
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To: Marguerite

And yet another re-heated left-wing attack against Santorum from 2005-2006.


154 posted on 03/18/2012 8:38:25 AM PDT by dirtboy
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To: dirtboy

Make that he endorsed PRO choice candidates and voted aye on pro choice judges! “Santorum’s “record” shows he endorsed and voted for a PRO CHOICE judges, candidates”
Even McCain voted NO on Sotomayer! Santorum crossed the line and went with the dems. Rush was on the radio at the time warning this could eventually lead to her being on the SCOTUS.
Santorum is a pious fraud! he is NO fiscal or even social conservative.


155 posted on 03/18/2012 8:41:23 AM PDT by katiedidit1 ("This is one race of people for whom psychoanalysis is of no use whatsoever." the Irish)
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To: dirtboy

You can call it what you want, but the school tuition story cost Santorum his senator seat in 2006, when he heavily lost it 41% to 59%.


156 posted on 03/18/2012 8:41:59 AM PDT by Marguerite (When I'm good, I am very, very good. But! When I'm bad, I'm even better)
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To: dirtboy
[You, alone among those trumpeting it on this thread, have admitted it is not sourced. But to your own shame, you admit you don't care.]
 
It's not that I don't care, it's just that it's been made evident to me that there are deeper character issues that need to be brought out and discussed in the light of day.
 
"The right to search for truth implies also a duty; one must not conceal any part of what one has recognized to be true."
--Albert Einstein
 
Sometimes people do things they regret.  Newt did things he's regretted but he's admitted them and asked and received forgiveness for them. 
I don't see that's the case for the candidate in question.  Instead all we're getting is a bunch of legal weasel maneuvering that would make Bill Klintoon blush.

157 posted on 03/18/2012 8:42:07 AM PDT by LomanBill (Animals! The DemocRats blew up the windmill with an Acorn!)
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To: Marguerite
There was far more to it than that story. But I do agree, it was an effective left-wing attack against Santorum, as part of a larger offensive such as some of the other crap you have linked to on this thread.

The two main factors in Santorum's loss were that 2006 was a bad year in general for the GOP and that the PA Dems finally ran an ostensibly pro-life candidate against him - Bob Casey Sr. was about the last true major pro-life Dem and his son banked on that reputation.

Hence the drive in 2005-2006 to peel off pro-life support for Santorum - which many in the Newt camp are embracing in their zeal to attack Santorum now, despite Santorum's stellar pro-life record as a legislator.

158 posted on 03/18/2012 8:45:58 AM PDT by dirtboy
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To: dirtboy
No one is "attacking" Santorum.

THIS is called a vetting process.

159 posted on 03/18/2012 8:48:52 AM PDT by Marguerite (When I'm good, I am very, very good. But! When I'm bad, I'm even better)
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To: katiedidit1
Make that he endorsed PRO choice candidates and voted aye on pro choice judges! “Santorum’s “record” shows he endorsed and voted for a PRO CHOICE judges, candidates”

Once again, I'm sure we can find a similar list for just about any GOP senator.

Even McCain voted NO on Sotomayer! Santorum crossed the line and went with the dems.

Your post is breathtakingly dishonest. Santorum wasn't in the Senate for the Sotomayor SCOTUS vote. He voted for her as an appeals court judge. McCain voted against Sotomayor when there was a large public outcry for her as a Supreme court judge and he needed to try and prove his conservative bona fides.

You do the Newt campaign no favors with these kind of apples and oranges posts.

160 posted on 03/18/2012 8:51:05 AM PDT by dirtboy
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