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Obama Speaks : Lo and Behold Birth Control is free for everyone, his just saying it makes it so
sol rant | 2/13/2012 | sickoflibs

Posted on 02/13/2012 10:17:41 AM PST by sickoflibs

This is the Obama’ who liberals fought for in 2008. This is Obama the brilliant one, the wise one, the just one, the master compromiser and most of all the ultimate voice of fairness’. In keeping his promise to feminists to force all employers to give their female employees free birth control drugs and devices through employee health insurance, via the Affordable Health care Act (aka Obama-care), he ran into opposition by the Catholic Church and Catholic leaders.

Catholic objections to having their institutions being forced to give free birth control to their employees when they believe that using birth control is immoral created a diversion to Obama’s message that everyone wins with Obama-care. Many liberal Democrats who supported and promoted Obama-care under the promise that these institutions would get a waiver from those mandates seemed outraged last week that they will not. These liberal Catholic Democrats needed a face saving gesture from Obama to get back on the’team’..

Obama ‘the wise one’ was on top of this crisis and responded with a ‘compromise’ where everyone wins. His compromise is that Catholic institutions (self insured employers) do not have actually ‘pay’ to ‘give’ their employees birth control via employer health insurance, because the birth control is actually free to them too, free to everyone, no one pays for it. Everyone wins because the employees get their birth control for free and the Catholic institutions can tell themselves they won’t have to pay for the ’free’ birth control relieving their conscience, even while they are being forced to pay for it.

So how does Obama pull this off? How does Obama force the Catholic institutions to give their employees ‘free’ birth control without a cost to themselves, when those self insured institutions will clearly have to be paying for that birth control to give to its employees? It’s Easy when you are Obama. Because now when the employees use the free birth control they will get pregnant less and that will cost less and that will make up for the costs that the institutions pay for the birth control; so the Church can look at is as being free to them. Isn’t this brilliant?

Better yet this compromise that gives liberal Catholics their face saving excuse also keeps Obama’s liberal pro-abortion feminists completely happy. Why? The original policy was to force Catholic institutions to pay for birth control via health insurance so their employees have fewer pregnancies (children). The New policy is to force Catholic institutions to pay for birth control via health insurance so their employees have fewer pregnancies (children). There is actually no change to what Obama-care is mandating. The only difference is that Obama tells us (the gullible voters) that those employers won’t really be paying to help their employees have fewer pregnancies (children) even though he is forcing them to, because they will make up the cost when their employees have fewer pregnancies (children).

This is the perfect ‘compromise’ and it was the model for all the compromises that Obama has offered in his 3+ plus years. He basically holds to his exact same initial demands but then he calls it something different and then he tells us (the gullible voters) that he compromised, which is what voters want to hear. Oh Obama the Great One has spoke and made it so.

He also says Jesus would raise your taxes if you meet his current definition of rich.


TOPICS: Government; Health/Medicine; Politics; Religion
KEYWORDS: abortion; birthcontrol; obama; obamacare
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Obama’s outright dishonesty and cynicism never ceases to amaze me. Many of these non-profits ‘self insure’ meaning that they pay for their employees health care themselves and just use a third party administrator to handle the claims and premiums that the employees pay.

So Obama is telling these Catholic nonprofits that they really are not paying for the abortion pills, because they will get the money back when their employees use them and reduce birth/pregnancy related costs.

I will be sorely disappointed if this scam works for Obama. Obama was only really worried about those lib Catholics that supported Obama-care and this was a fake (non-existent) compromise to give them a face save to join him again. If this is still a story in a week then Obama’s scam has failed.

1 posted on 02/13/2012 10:17:44 AM PST by sickoflibs
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Easy target ping!


2 posted on 02/13/2012 10:19:57 AM PST by sickoflibs (You MUST support the lesser of two RINOs or we all die!)
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To: sickoflibs
As our Framers feared, the President has evolved into a tyrant, not to be confused with a King, for kings love their country. Tyrants love power.

Worse, our President-Tyrant has the law of Congress, OUR representatives behind him. Make no mistake, Obamacare was the close American equivalent of a certain Enabling Act of 1933.

3 posted on 02/13/2012 10:25:52 AM PST by Jacquerie (No court will save us from ourselves.)
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To: sickoflibs

"Thus let it be Written ... Thus let it be Done."

4 posted on 02/13/2012 10:26:00 AM PST by mikrofon (Pharaobama)
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To: sickoflibs
I used to thing that Hussein Obama was merely a lying moronic ignoramus [ kind of like ONE that the German people elected in 1932], but he is more: an arrogant God mocker!
5 posted on 02/13/2012 10:30:02 AM PST by texican01
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To: sickoflibs
It's not free when someone else is forced to pay for it.

6 posted on 02/13/2012 10:30:59 AM PST by BitWielder1 (Corporate Profits are better than Government Waste)
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To: BitWielder1
RE :”It's not free when someone else is forced to pay for it.

I think he covered that. They will save that same money they have to pay out when later on those using the 'free' BC don't have kids, Obama calls it an ‘investment’

How about all those 'jobs' the stimulus created?

7 posted on 02/13/2012 10:41:48 AM PST by sickoflibs (You MUST support the lesser of two RINOs or we all die!)
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To: mikrofon
Today I was reading an article in the paper about Hugo Chavez's campaign. It says “He's already kicked his campaign into gear, launching new social programs that offer cash benefits for the poor and investing heavily in new railways, public housing and cable car systems in Venezuela's sprawling hillside slums”

Sound familiar? Dictators.

8 posted on 02/13/2012 10:50:09 AM PST by dandiegirl
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To: sickoflibs

He’s created a tangible immediate benefit out of nothing! This hasn’t happened since the bread and fish incident just under two millenia ago. Truly I am not worthy that such greatness shall enter under my roof in the next 4 years.


9 posted on 02/13/2012 10:50:09 AM PST by posterchild (I'm old enough to remember when journalists bothered to look things up on wikipedia.)
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To: sickoflibs
After a few minutes of cursory research, it appears that only about 5% of blacks are Catholic, nationwide...most are white and/or hispanic.

In pushing for birth control mainly on Catholics, could this be the obama version of White Genocide by attrition?

I haven't heard him contemplating this mandate over at Reverend Wright's church...have you?

10 posted on 02/13/2012 10:53:16 AM PST by FrankR (You are only enslaved to the extent of the entitlements you receive.)
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To: sickoflibs
Focus on the fact that this is not about the Trojan Horses of "women's health" or "contraception."

It's not even limited to the principle of religious liberty or freedom of speech.

It is about an unconstitutional assumption of power over rights which "the People" withheld from the purview of the government they structured through their Constitution. If this arrogation of power to the Executive is allowed to stand in this case, then all of "the People's" rights are at risk.

Inasmuch as their Constitution allowed no power to infringe on any specified right in the First Amendment, then the person who assumes such a power also does not possess a power to "compromise," or "accomodate."

May I suggest that readers of this thread read Leonard Read's "Anything That's Peaceful," which can be read online, and share this wonderful and easy-to-read book with as many people as you can. The book itself can be ordered from FEE.

Not only does Read provide insight into the ideas of liberty versus those of tyranny (as in socialism), but his Chapter 5, entitled, "How Socialism Harms the Individual" is especially enlightening for any who may not see what is happening in America in its proper context, as pertains to the individuals involved.

In Chapter 5, under the heading "The Authoritarian," he begins by stating, "Of the threee classifications of persons involved in social leveling by compulsion, the authoritarian--the one who administers the taking and the giving--has been too little diagnosed." When you read it, you will see the nature of the man before us today. This section of Chapter 5 paints a portrait most Americans will recognize.

An extra bonus of this wonderful book is that it contains Read's famous "I, Pencil." Copies should be placed in every school library and in every home school setting.

11 posted on 02/13/2012 10:55:39 AM PST by loveliberty2
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To: sickoflibs

Honest question: Does the expected births of a given population actually decrease when given free contraceptives as opposed to paying for them?

My guess is that those who care about the costs of birth would pay for them out of pocket if need be. I would assume the small differential in costs compared to avoiding the cost of raising a child already is enough incentive to use birth control. We are applying this to a population that is gainfully employed so they likely have funds to purchase contraceptives.

If my assumption is correct then what savings would occur?


12 posted on 02/13/2012 10:58:06 AM PST by Raycpa
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To: posterchild
This hasn’t happened since the bread and fish incident just under two millenia ago.

You are forgetting the lowering of the sea levels.

13 posted on 02/13/2012 10:59:45 AM PST by Raycpa
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To: Raycpa
RE :”My guess is that those who care about the costs of birth would pay for them out of pocket if need be. I would assume the small differential in costs compared to avoiding the cost of raising a child already is enough incentive to use birth control. We are applying this to a population that is gainfully employed so they likely have funds to purchase contraceptives. If my assumption is correct then what savings would occur?

You are correct in that Obama is just making up the part about savings in that he has no way of knowing how effective free BC would be in controlling births. This is much like the stimulus CBO jobs estimates, just made up.

The general argument goes like Republicans on welfare and taxes: That the activity that is taxed is suppressed, and on welfare or unemployment comp :the activity that is substidized is promoted.

My point above is really that Obama's claim that this NON-change in policy gives Catholics a 'moral exemption' is a joke, not so much that it doesnt save someone money at some time.

14 posted on 02/13/2012 11:08:02 AM PST by sickoflibs (You MUST support the lesser of two RINOs or we all die!)
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To: sickoflibs

I hope that next he’ll declare social programs to be ‘free’ and taxpayers funds will no longer be needed to support them.


15 posted on 02/13/2012 11:15:37 AM PST by posterchild (I'm old enough to remember when journalists bothered to look things up on wikipedia.)
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To: sickoflibs
Actually, nothing changed in the written DICTATORIAL DIRECTIVE.
This latest con is simply an “Obama promise”.

What's that worth?

This is the “compromise” the liberals are touting?!?!?

16 posted on 02/13/2012 11:16:35 AM PST by G Larry (We are NOT obliged to carry the snake in our pocket and then dismiss the bites as natural behavior.)
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To: Raycpa

True - we live in exciting times.


17 posted on 02/13/2012 11:17:32 AM PST by posterchild (I'm old enough to remember when journalists bothered to look things up on wikipedia.)
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To: G Larry
RE :”Actually, nothing changed in the written DICTATORIAL DIRECTIVE.
This latest con is simply an “Obama promise”.
What's that worth?
This is the “compromise” the liberals are touting?!?!?

Yesterday the Sunday show media was quizzing Obama’s chief of staff Jacob Lew about Obama’s 'reversal' or 'backtracking' on this policy and Lew quite frankly said that Obama hasn't changed the policy at all on this, but just clarified it. I think it was on CBS that he stated it the most clearly. Note you dont see any liberals upset over the ‘compromise’.

I picked up on it but it seemed missed by everyone else. Maybe I can find a transcript.

18 posted on 02/13/2012 11:46:55 AM PST by sickoflibs (You MUST support the lesser of two RINOs or we all die!)
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To: G Larry
RE :”Actually, nothing changed in the written DICTATORIAL DIRECTIVE.
This latest con is simply an “Obama promise”.
What's that worth?
This is the “compromise” the liberals are touting?!?!?

Yesterday the Sunday show media was quizzing Obama’s chief of staff Jacob Lew about Obama’s 'reversal' or 'backtracking' on this policy and Lew quite frankly said that Obama hasn't changed the policy at all on this, but just clarified it. I think it was on CBS that he stated it the most clearly. Note you dont see any liberals upset over the ‘compromise’.

I picked up on it but it seemed missed by everyone else. Maybe I can find a transcript.

19 posted on 02/13/2012 11:46:55 AM PST by sickoflibs (You MUST support the lesser of two RINOs or we all die!)
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To: sickoflibs

Before Christ’s second coming the Church must pass through a final trial that will shake the faith of many believers.

The persecution that accompanies her pilgrimage on earth will unveil the “mystery of iniquity” in the form of a religious deception offering men an apparent solution to their problems at the price of apostasy from the truth.

From the Catholic Catechism #675, regarding Revelations.

“...religious deception offering men an apparent solution to their problems at the price of apostasy from the truth...”!!!


20 posted on 02/13/2012 12:16:17 PM PST by G Larry (We are NOT obliged to carry the snake in our pocket and then dismiss the bites as natural behavior.)
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