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A Series Of Unfortunate Events at Fukushima Daiichi
SimplyInfo - The Fukushima Project ^ | January 7th, 2012 | Blog Post

Posted on 01/07/2012 3:15:10 PM PST by justa-hairyape

There have been a number of odd happenings recently at the plant. What they all mean right now is not totally clear.

On January 2nd, the day after the widespread new years quake, the radioactive fallout levels in Fukushima and also in Chiba spiked. A weird white ash was reported by some in Chiba, no word if this is related in any way.

On January 6th the cesium levels detected leaking out of unit 3′s intake canal tripled in one day.

We still have no explanation for the rush of police cars, fire engines and two buses of workers to Daiichi on January 6th (Japan time). Checks of TEPCO’s plant status reports say nothing of an incident at the plant and nothing has been reported out of those who watch the press conferences.

There have also been a series of shallow quakes in the region of the power plant since the first of the year.

(Excerpt) Read more at simplyinfo.org ...


TOPICS: Government; Politics; Science
KEYWORDS: cesium; fukushima; japan; nuclear; radiation
Interesting activity none-the-less.

Can any geologists recognize the composition of the sedimentary rock removed from near a Fukushima reactor ? Image at blog above. Originally from post below.

Breaking News: Whistle-blower talks, container vessel is melting like honeycomb

Also, videos at the blog post below are very interesting. The first sped up video (poor quality) appears to show a platform and bus arrive at Reactor 4. The platform raises and a small group of workers walk around the top of the spent fuel pool floor. Then the platform raises to the floor above the spent fuel and a lot of workers climb up to that floor and scurry about. Very dangerous work. The second video shows a street leading to Fukushima where the bus of workers drives to the Fukushima plant (second part of video).

WATCH: Workers walk on top of Reactor No. 4… other interesting activity reported around plant

Any speculation about all this ? There had turned off the spent fuel pool water addition for reactor #3 over New Years due to clogged filters. That was supposed to be fixed a day or two before this activity. This new activity is on unit #4.

1 posted on 01/07/2012 3:15:24 PM PST by justa-hairyape
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To: justa-hairyape
Here is a list of the first series of small earthquakes that occurred relatively close to Fukushima a few days after New Years. This was also a couple of days after the big earthquake that occurred south of Japan. Here is the recent series of quakes since December 30th.

Small quake before big New Years quake.
M4.8 – Near the East Coast of Honshu, Japan

Big New Years Quake south of Japan.
M6.8 – Izu Islands, Japan Region

Small quake after first close to Fukushima.
M4.5 – Near the East Coast of Honshu, Japan

Small quake Jan 5th close to Fukushima.
M5.0 – Near the East Coast of Honshu, Japan

Another small quake close to Fukushima Jan 5th.
M4.9 – Near the East Coast of Honshu, Japan

Then this small one occurred.
M5.0 – Near the East Coast of Honshu, Japan

Another small one offshore near Fukushima.
M4.9 – Near the East Coast of Honshu, Japan

Then on the 7th we had this one.
M4.6 – Near the East Coast of Honshu, Japan

Followed by this one.
M4.7 – Near the East Coast of Honshu, Japan

Then this one.
M5.1 – Off the East Coast of Honshu, Japan

During this time frame there were also a few much smaller quakes that occurred closer to Fukushima that were below a magnitude of [4.5].

2 posted on 01/07/2012 3:36:52 PM PST by justa-hairyape
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To: justa-hairyape

Ok, so is anyone else worried about this as much as I am?

They cannot get it under control and things are getting worse. It seems even earthquakes are getting worse there.

And the Japanese are not being honest and open about what is actually going on. This has the potential to contaminate the entire world and needs to be gotten under control.


3 posted on 01/07/2012 3:50:48 PM PST by Cowgirl of Justice
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To: Cowgirl of Justice

Seismic and volcanic activity seems to be on the increase globally.


4 posted on 01/07/2012 3:58:44 PM PST by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: Jack Hydrazine
First thought that maybe during times of extreme weak solar activity, there could be more quakes. Simply due to a weak solar wind. Less wind means less pressure on the earth as it travels about. We are now in a solar maximum though or at least some moderate to strong activity. However, it has been reported that solar wind is still weak. That theory however is on shaky ground, no pun intended.

The other possibility is that as the solar system travels through the galactic plane, perhaps there is increased turbulence traveling through the galactic plane space. However that theory is also way out there. Perhaps the solar system experiences stronger galactic gravitational forces as it travels though the galactic plane ? When exactly are we supposed to be traveling through the galactic plane ?

5 posted on 01/07/2012 4:16:10 PM PST by justa-hairyape
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To: Cowgirl of Justice
Latest timeline is 40 years until they have fully contained and cleaned up the area and that appears to be a pipe dream. So at least we need a nice and calm earth with no quakes, but that is impossible since we should expect many aftershocks after the big one that spawned the record Tsunami.
6 posted on 01/07/2012 4:20:45 PM PST by justa-hairyape
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To: justa-hairyape

Don’t know.


7 posted on 01/07/2012 4:56:57 PM PST by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: justa-hairyape

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/travel/snowandski/8986062/Skis-goggles-hats-and-radiation-monitors-thousands-crowd-the-slopes-during-Fukushimas-ski-season.html
“Last week, thousands of skiers took to the snow-covered slopes of Fukushima for the official seasonal start of the ski season in resorts across the mountainous region following heavy snowfall...
While the 12-mile exclusion zone surrounding Fukushima’s damaged plant remains strictly out of bounds, ski resorts in the surrounding mountains are open for business and keen to resume life as normal during its peak winter season.

Over the festive period, a number of Fukushima resorts have reported occupancy back to as high as 70 per cent compared to pre-disaster levels...”


8 posted on 01/07/2012 5:23:23 PM PST by mrsmith (It's 2012 now. Have you found a Tea Party nominee for your House seat yet?)
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To: justa-hairyape

Nuclear power is pure insanity. The media does not cover what is going on because they are owned by the same companies that built, operate, or own these plants. There is a lot of information on the internet about what is still going on. They are finding lots of radiation everywhere in Japan. Very dangerous food is being consumed before it is discovered to be dangerous. Soil, sea, and forests are contaminated. Even sewage is contaminated. And new building supplies. The powers to be do the best they can to cover it all up.

Now this is just from one plant. And mind you such a disaster could happen at any plant, and quite possibly at more than one plant at once anywhere in the world.

Think of a natural disaster such as a meteor or super volcano. And imagine what would happen at these plants in the aftermath. Or imagine a war destroying the infrastructure needed to keep these plants from going boom. Remember that you can’t just shut these things down and walk away. They have to be cooled for a long time before you can even remove the fuel. So even if you loose power for an extended time, or you loose personnel. If you can’t keep the whole ball of wax going for any reason then these things go boom. And this does not even include direct attacks on a plant. Just insanity.


9 posted on 01/07/2012 5:26:23 PM PST by Revel
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To: mrsmith

And how does that address the topic of this thread ? Are you spamming ? Did you know that the US Military on Japan was given SPEEDI info the day after the accident occurred ? Why did they not tell US citizens exactly what was going on ? The US government however did recommend a much larger evacuation zone then the Japanese government recommended.


10 posted on 01/07/2012 5:55:23 PM PST by justa-hairyape
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To: justa-hairyape

Prime eq mover is cont. shelf movement (incl. volc, crust, tidals, etc). 2nd imo is water, namely ice (freeze/thaw cycles).


11 posted on 01/07/2012 5:59:44 PM PST by StAnDeliver (=)
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To: Revel
It is a major cluster puck over there. They have not evacuated people living in areas that the Japanese government itself admits have higher radiation readings then areas the Soviets evacuated during Chernobyl. Imagine that. The Japanese government is less protective of their people then the Soviets were. And the US government would be no better then the Japanese.

Most of the area of Koriyama is contaminated as mandatory evacuating zone in Chernobyl

12 posted on 01/07/2012 6:01:11 PM PST by justa-hairyape
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To: justa-hairyape
US army received live information from SPEEDI

So why did they not tell US citizens living in Japan ?

Later.

13 posted on 01/07/2012 6:04:29 PM PST by justa-hairyape
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14 posted on 01/07/2012 6:05:29 PM PST by RedMDer (Forward With Confidence!)
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To: StAnDeliver

Interesting. So freezing and thawing underground can cause earth movement ?


15 posted on 01/07/2012 6:06:29 PM PST by justa-hairyape
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To: Revel
Depends on the technology.

Pebble bed reactor

16 posted on 01/07/2012 6:39:53 PM PST by Talisker (Apology accepted, Captain Needa.)
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To: Revel
Nuclear power is pure insanity.

Your comment is pure insanity. Exactly how many people have thus far died because of radiation from the Fukushima incident?
17 posted on 01/07/2012 6:51:50 PM PST by rottndog (Be Prepared for what's coming AFTER America....)
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To: rottndog

If you cannot see the insanity then your brain does not function. If several of these exploded all at once due to some natural calamity then the whole world would be unfit to live in. As far as how many people having died. The beauty for people like you is that while the science of what happens when exposed to radiation clearly indicates that it causes health problems or death....The beauty for people like you is that you can claim that every death that happens was not caused by radiation. Since the effect is not instantaneous in this case then you can claim it does not exist. Science however says that you are wrong.

There are stories of people getting sick in Japan, and the US. and there are stories of people having died from radiation. Their are reports of a large sample of children with thyroid problems from this. But if you think that the government or the nuclear power industry is going to come out and advertise it, then your just gullible.


18 posted on 01/07/2012 7:19:32 PM PST by Revel
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To: Revel

I don’t have to prove that someone didn’t die of radiation...hysterical people making wild and ignorant claims do. That’s how science works.

BTW, the answer to my question is ZERO! Despite all reports that workers in the immediate aftermath of the disaster received very high levels of direct exposure to radiation and contamination (there is a big difference), and despite claims that some of those said workers would surely die quickly from acute high radiation exposure, non have. I’m not saying there won’t be some deaths, but thus far all the dire predictions have been wrong. I expect the same to be true over the long term.

Yes, some people MAY suffer effects from increased exposure from this incident (we ALL are exposed to radiation, every minute of every day of our lives), but that does not necessarily correlate to people dying of said exposure.

Radiation can cause thyroid problems in children, HOWEVER, this is very treatable and almost never fatal.

But hey, my brain must not be functioning....must be from all the years I spent working on and operating a nuclear power plant...


19 posted on 01/07/2012 7:52:19 PM PST by rottndog (Be Prepared for what's coming AFTER America....)
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To: rottndog

One thing is for sure. You are inhumane and have no ability to feel for the people who will suffer from this. You make it clear that they are all just numbers and statistics to you. All good as long as you can keep your job.


20 posted on 01/07/2012 8:13:55 PM PST by Revel
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To: Revel

Actually, it is far more humane to bypass emotion and colorful hyperbole, and just deal with facts and truth. Statistics and numbers are facts and truth—they are a descriptor of reality.

The FACT is that FAR FAR more people have died from the earthquake and tsunami than will EVER suffer and die from radiation exposure from Fukushima.

The FACT is that FAR FAR more people have died and will die from the use of energy sources other than nuclear.

The FACT is that nuclear energy, despite its’ drawbacks, has and will continue to be a great benefit to humanity.

We need more of it, not less.

BTW, I no longer work on a reactor—my current line of work has nothing to do the nuclear industry, and hasn’t for a long time.


21 posted on 01/07/2012 8:46:21 PM PST by rottndog (Be Prepared for what's coming AFTER America....)
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To: Cowgirl of Justice

OK now I’m going out and bury my head in the sand because I just can’t deal with how bad it probably is.


22 posted on 01/07/2012 9:29:24 PM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: rottndog
...and just deal with facts and truth.

Do you realize what would happen if for example San Onofre melted down ? First, the US government would deny there is any significant problem. They would possess maps predicting where the fallout was headed and areas that were being contaminated, and they would sit on them. Because they would not want to cause a panic and they know it would be impossible to evacuate Southern California in a timely fashion. That is exactly what would happen. It is exactly what happened in Japan.

The Japanese government also had worse case scenario plans that Tokyo City would have been evacuated if the support structure for Spent Fuel Pool #4 collapsed. It did not collapse and was reinforced. Then they released the lie that cold shutdown of 3 melted reactors was achieved. Now we have a series of earthquakes that can only be weakening the support structure for #4 SFP. And we have a recent video showing workers being lifted by elevating platform into #4 building, working on areas around the spent fuel pool. All suited up and obviously taking great risks to work in that environment. If that support now collapses, according to their own plans, Tokyo City will have to be evacuated. Well how are they going to justify that after they promoted the BIG LIE that cold shutdown was achieved ?

23 posted on 01/07/2012 10:48:10 PM PST by justa-hairyape
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To: justa-hairyape
Don't mean to be rude, but you and others on this thread have absolutely no concept of reactor design and containment in the US.

San Onofre has two Pressurized Water Reactors--a completely different design than Fukushima. They are surrounded and contained by concrete domes...the cross section of the concrete looks similar to this:



However the thinnest sections at S.O. are at least two feet thicker than the pic. Fukushima has no such containment.

We've already had a large meltdown incident in the US--Three Mile Island. TMI's core suffered a 95% meltdown, and the pressurized water reactor design (similar to San Onofre) completely contained the core within the reactor vessel itself--there was never any possibility of the release of fission products outside the reactor plant. After decades of study, there is absolutely no link from the TMI incident to any increased radiation exposure or health related issues to the public.

San Onofre could suffer a 100% meltdown, and the results would be the same. Of course, the likelihood a meltdown at San Onofre is almost ZERO. BTW, I live about 40 miles from S.O. as the crow flies, and I have absolutely no fear of it.

As far as the Fukushima incident, from the get-go we've been deluged with worst case scenario hype, and NONE of these predictions has come to pass. I'm not trying to minimize what has happened--it is very serious--but the sky will not fall and eventually this problem will be controlled.

In the mean time, it's just a shame that there is so much incredibly ignorant fear mongering going on. Ignorance and fear go hand in hand...people fear what they can't or won't comprehend and understand. Sometimes it's hard to believe this is Free Republic....
24 posted on 01/08/2012 1:48:25 PM PST by rottndog (Be Prepared for what's coming AFTER America....)
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To: rottndog

They said that Fukushima could not explode. It did. They said that Fukushima could not melt out of the RPV. It did. They said it could not escape the CV, it has. That is three strikes and they are out. Now you claim that San Onofre could not cause any problems. Yeah sure. Do you have any idea the size of the Tsunami that could hit that plant with just minutes of warning ? You ever been to Catalina Island or cruised by San Clemente Island ? Have you seen a map of the seafloor off the So Cal coast ? Do you know what an 8.0 quake here could do to that concrete ?


25 posted on 01/08/2012 4:48:04 PM PST by justa-hairyape
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To: mewzilla

Bump for later.....


26 posted on 01/08/2012 4:57:44 PM PST by mewzilla (Santelli 2012)
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To: justa-hairyape
Update - They have two medium sized cranes working on reactor #4 today. Sun will be setting over there in a few hours. Looks like one crane is trying to dismantle whats left of the top floor in the rear area of the building. They must be trying to remove weight stress from the lower floors. There is a second crane or possible water injection crane that is aimed right into the #4 SFP from above. Dang. Video just got fogged over.

JNN福島第一原発情報カメラ(LIVE)

BTW - They was an incident reported by Tepco related to the big earthquake on New Years day. They stated that water flow had shifted in the #4 SFP from the spent fuel pool to the skimmer tank and that the water level in the SFP was lowering. Then they stated that water was lowering in the skimmer tank and not in the SFP. They stated that the problem would soon be fixed. That all did not make much sense to me. New second hand report state a pipe broke and water boiled in #4 SFP.

Reactor 4 : Spent fuel pool was boiling without water after 1/1/2012

Looks like #4 might be getting ready to saddle up.

Riders on the Storm

27 posted on 01/08/2012 8:16:33 PM PST by justa-hairyape
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To: justa-hairyape
Now you claim that San Onofre could not cause any problems.

Did you even read my last post? You have absolutely no clue about reactor containment at San Onofre, or any other US nuclear plant. They are completely DIFFERENT than Fukushima. The Fukushima REACTOR did NOT explode...the building surrounding it did. The Fukushima building that exploded was NOT a concrete reinforced structure like the containment domes at San Onofre. THEY ARE COMPLETELY DIFFERENT!

Ignorance is one thing, but willful ignorance is just plain stupidity.
28 posted on 01/09/2012 9:10:00 AM PST by rottndog (Be Prepared for what's coming AFTER America....)
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To: rottndog
No. I do not need to read your post, because that exact post was put up early on in the Fukushima disaster. Why should I read it twice ? Would you like me to point out where someone posted that exact same picture and shilled that exact same none sense ? You guys are a broken record now. Same none sense over and over again. Stop wasting our times and our lives.

Let me explain my point in details for you. Major earthquake cracks your vaunted concrete shell. Tremendous Tsunmai follows 5 minutes later and floods the entire plant and eventually caused a reactor meltdown. Meltdown escapes internal reactor vessel and gases and particulates escape through the cracks in the shell. And while that is all occurring, you would be all over Freerepublic claiming there is no problem.

Been there. Done that. Tell me something new.

29 posted on 01/09/2012 2:18:21 PM PST by justa-hairyape
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To: justa-hairyape
FYI - If anyone is interested, there was two small earthquakes off the coast of Fukushima earlier today. Now the JNN camera feed has been off, since they started working extensively on Reactor #4. Probably just a coincidence. Radiation levels around Fukushima #1 and #2 have not changed much. With the main camera down recommend these two sites to monitor any possible problems with #4 SFP. Keep track of the radiation levels.

Fukushima 1

Fukushima 2

Have actually identified some of these monitoring locations with Google translate. Can also explain the readings if anyone needs the help. Current highest reading equates to basically 1 chest xray exposure every 2 hours (location close to Fukushima 1 plant).

30 posted on 01/09/2012 2:27:06 PM PST by justa-hairyape
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To: justa-hairyape
Now getting back to the two small earthquakes off the coast near Fukushima today. The question is, did they cause ground movement at Fukushima #1. Answer - Yes they did. You can see the ground movement on the video archives for the Tepco live camera. Both earthquakes and the video with time location of ground movement are listed below. This is a intuitive way to see the amount of ground motion that the plant experiences.

First Quake.

Magnitude 4.7 - NEAR THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN

Local time was about 4:10 pm. You can see the resulting ground movement via the camera shaking at the 32 to 33 second mark. Basically archive video is fast forward of 1 hour crammed into 3 minutes of video time. So 30 seconds of video is about 10 minutes of real time.

2012.01.09 16:00-17:00 / Live Fukushima Nuclear Plant Cam)

Second Quake.

Magnitude 4.7 - NEAR THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN

Local time was about 5:50 pm. You can see the resulting ground movement via the camera shaking at the 2:30 to 2:31 minute mark. Basically archive video is fast forward of 1 hour crammed into 3 minutes of video time. So 2:30 minutes of video is about 50 minutes of real time.

2012.01.09 17:00-18:00 / (Live Fukushima Nuclear Plant Cam)

Note to Japan - Please do not turn off the Tepco live video feed or the updated radiation monitoring in Fukushima.

31 posted on 01/09/2012 2:42:17 PM PST by justa-hairyape
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To: justa-hairyape
Last update to this thread. There is a new JNN Camera feed. Link is below. Looks like they knocked down two more sections of wall in the Reactor #4 building. As you look at the JNN feed, the left wall of #4 is light up very bright at night. The front or right end sections of that wall are no longer there. They are apparently continuing with the demolition of the building. Probably at least somewhat related to the support of #4 SFP.

JNN LIVE

This video shows the work crew that arrived and walked around the #4 building on January 6. Stop the video at 1 second and you will see the #4 reactor building with the two left front wall panel sections still intact. Looks like they have really accelerated the demolition efforts.

2012-01-06 TBS/JNN/

32 posted on 01/10/2012 1:35:55 AM PST by justa-hairyape
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To: rottndog

Japan reports 5 persons have received lethal radiation doses

http://enformable.com/2012/01/march-16th-2011-japan-reports-5-persons-have-received-lethal-radiation-doses/


33 posted on 01/12/2012 11:36:38 AM PST by Revel
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To: Revel

Still no deaths, and no report on the condition of the 5 individuals...people who receive truly fatal doses of radiation usually die in a matter of days. It’s been many months since those exposures.

Not saying some or all to the 5 persons won’t die of radiation exposure, but none are dead yet. There are many documented cases of people receiving acute ‘lethal’ doses of radiation and not dying.

Not to minimize it, but that’s 5 ‘lethal’ doses out of how many hundreds of exposed workers?


34 posted on 01/12/2012 12:42:34 PM PST by rottndog (Be Prepared for what's coming AFTER America....)
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To: rottndog

You will just keeping fooling yourself into thinking what you want to believe. No amount of common sense in the world is going to change that.


35 posted on 01/12/2012 3:34:52 PM PST by Revel
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To: Revel

Who’s fooling who?

Tell me specifically what I said that was wrong?

I know quite a bit about radiation and its’ biological effects, specifically as it relates to working around nuclear reactors. Been there, done that. I know of which I speak.


36 posted on 01/12/2012 4:21:48 PM PST by rottndog (This FReeper nuclear powered...)
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To: rottndog
Just my 2 cents, but your mistake is that you only believe official sources and you never consider that those official sources have a motive to conceal some information. The Japanese government itself has admitted that they did not release SPEEDI information early on and they did not release Iodine tablets early on because they did not want to cause a panic. It turns out that because they did not release the SPEEDI information, some evacuees from near Fukushima ended up evacuating to an area that had more radiation then the area they evacuated from. Those residents found out about that when a story appeared in the US MSM about 5 months later.
37 posted on 01/13/2012 5:59:04 PM PST by justa-hairyape
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To: rottndog

Doctors unsure why thyroid cancer cases on the rise

http://yourlife.usatoday.com/health/story/2012-01-15/Doctors-unsure-why-thyroid-cancer-cases-on-the-rise/52582694/1

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“In October, a U.S. study – co-authored by oceanographer Ken Buesseler, a senior scientist at the non-profit Woods Hole Oceanographic Institution in Woods Hole, Mass., – reported Fukushima caused history’s biggest-ever release of radiation into the ocean – 10 to 100 times more than the 1986 Chernobyl nuclear catastrophe.”

“It meant the ocean wasn’t diluting the radiation as expected. If it had been, cesium levels would have kept falling. The finding suggested radiation was still being released into the ocean long after the accident in March, Buesseler said in an interview.

“It implies the groundwater is contaminated or the facility is still leaking radiation.””

http://www.montrealgazette.com/news/After+Fukushima+fish+tales/5994237/story.html


38 posted on 01/16/2012 11:35:39 AM PST by Revel
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To: Revel
From the link...

National Cancer Institute statistics suggest that in recent years the number of cases of this often curable cancer has increased by about 6.5%. Over a decade, that has added up to make thyroid cancer the fastest-increasing cancer,...

And how exactly is this related to Fukushima?


...– reported Fukushima caused history’s biggest-ever release of radiation into the ocean – 10 to 100 times more than the 1986 Chernobyl nuclear catastrophe.”

Apples and oranges...Chernobyl is LANDLOCKED...Fukushima is right on the ocean. Also, at Chernobyl the reactor fuel literally BURNED in the open atmosphere...as bad as Fukushima has been, it's still nowhere near the scale of the release of radioactive fission products that resulted at Chernobyl.
39 posted on 01/16/2012 12:11:05 PM PST by rottndog (This FReeper nuclear powered...)
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