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Dire Warnings and 100 Items You Need to Survive
Fellowship of the Minds ^ | 1/2/12 | Dr. Eowyn

Posted on 01/02/2012 7:55:29 PM PST by Kartographer

ow that we’ve done our cheery “Happy New Year” greetings, it’s time to get more serious.

I’m a boomer. In my lifetime, I can’t remember a new year beginning with such dire warnings and grim outlook.

This morning, the UK’s The Telegraph reports that Americans bought record numbers of guns last month amid an apparent surge in popularity for weapons as Christmas presents.

Another UK paper, Daily Mail, is grimmer still. Dominic Sandbrook writes that a “loss of faith in politicians and democracy could make 2012 the most frightening year in living memory.” Sandbrook goes as far as to compare our time with the Great Depression:

“For the most chilling parallel, though, we should look back exactly 80 years, to the cold wintry days when 1931 gave way to 1932…. It was in 1931 that the Great Depression really took hold in Europe, bringing governments to their knees and plunging tens of millions of people out of work. Then as now, the crisis had taken years to gather momentum. After the Wall Street Crash in 1929 — just as after the banking crisis of 2008 — some observers even thought that the worst was over. But in the summer of 1931, a wave of banking panics swept across central Europe.”

(Excerpt) Read more at fellowshipofminds.wordpress.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; Society
KEYWORDS: canineburgers; dominicsandbrook; getreadyhereitcomes; hamstersoup; kittiecasserole; parrotonrice; preparedness; prepperping; preppers; selfreliance; survival; survivalping; urbansurvival
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1 posted on 01/02/2012 7:55:39 PM PST by Kartographer
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To: appalachian_dweller; OldPossum; DuncanWaring; VirginiaMom; CodeToad; goosie; kalee; ...

Prepper’s Ping!


2 posted on 01/02/2012 7:59:44 PM PST by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: Kartographer

Black clouds cover the horizon, the lightening is flashing and there is the distant sound of thunder! The storm flags are going up, who you heed them?

I think that at best we are in for a collapse much like that of Argentina. A excellent 12 part documentary on the economic collapse of Argentina can be see on YouTube with opart one here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rH6_i8zuffs

I am very aware that if it’s the great end that there is nothing I can do to stop or change it, but history is full of instances and times when man or nature have caused such a calamity that people have cried out and begged God to end it all.

The bible has many verse such as this:

A prudent man sees danger and takes refuge, but the simple keep going and suffer for it.
NIV Proverbs 22:3

This verse and others are there for a reason and I urge all to take heed of them, because we are clearly on the edge. Everyday there is a new story about the ‘Yutes’ who grow more restless everyday and when you add the fact that because of the economy people are already on edge it won’t take much to set things off.

Reminds me of one of my favorite quotes:

“Star Trek: Deep Space Nine: The Siege of AR-558 (#7.8)” (1998)
Quark: Let me tell you something about Hew-mons, Nephew. They’re a wonderful, friendly people, as long as their bellies are full and their holosuites are working. But take away their creature comforts, deprive them of food, sleep, sonic showers, put their lives in jeopardy over an extended period of time and those same friendly, intelligent, wonderful people... will become as nasty and as violent as the most bloodthirsty Klingon. You don’t believe me? Look at those faces. Look in their eyes.

Today we have ‘yutes’ who roam our streets who are with out morals, without respect for law or life itself. They will look are you with the same ‘doll eyes’ a shark does before he eats you and they will feel no more compassion than the shark does.

That will be the test of many. Most preppers I know are Christian people and they will hesitate to do what they might have to do to stop the ‘yutes’. On the other hand the ‘yutes’ won’t think twice nor lose a minute of sleep, in fact they will smile and laugh about it.

For those who are just starting or are old hands at prepping you may find my Preparedness Manual helpfull. You can download it at:

http://www.tomeaker.com/kart/preparedness1i.pdf

(NOTE THIS DOWNLOAD IS FREE AND I DO NOT MAKE A DIME OFF OF IT. ALSO NOTE THAT THE MANUAL IS CLEARLY MARKED AS NOT BEING FOR SALE. I PUT TOGETHER THIS MANUAL FOR ONLY ONE PURPOSE AND THAT IS TO HELP FELLOW PATRIOTS TO PREPARE THEMSELVES FOR WHAT I BELIEVE IS COMING.)

For those of you who haven’t started already it’s time to prepare almost past time maybe. You needed to be stocking up on food guns, ammo, basic household supplies like soap, papergoods, cleaning supplies, good sturdy clothes including extra socks, underwear and extra shoes and boots, a extra couple changes of oil and filters for your car, tools, things you buy everyday start buying two and put one up.

Though I believe that the collapse we face will be much like that of Argentina I also believe that ours will be much more violent and there will be what I call ‘Pock Progoms’ which will be very violent and life for some will quickly become much more like that of Bosina.

For a somber, yet realistic look at what SHFT in Bosina was like I urge you to read some of a Bosinian name Selco’s posted here:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2798007/posts

If you like to read more about what SHTF in Bosnia was like take a look at this post on Bosnia War Survivor Selco’s Blog at:

http://shtfschool.com/

“There is no greater disaster than to underestimate danger. Underestimation can be fatal.”

As the LDS say “When the emergency is upon us the time for preparedness has past.”


3 posted on 01/02/2012 8:03:36 PM PST by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: Kartographer

Two points right off the bat. First of all, “loss of faith in politicians and democracy”, is not inherently a bad thing.

Most Americans do not see mankind as inherently good or inherently evil. If there is any such perception it is that people are inherently *weak* and flawed.

So what kind of politicians do we expect? Weak ones, of course. And we also expect them to be flawed, at least to a tolerable level.

But that is okay, because despite most of them thinking they rule over us, most of us think of them as somewhat irksome, ill behaved and not particularly bright employees.

Are we surprised that a four time elected US senator is still unable to do the minimum expected of him? No more than we are surprised that a dim witted fast food employee hasn’t mastered the cooking of french fries, even if his job exists because of the good cleaning he gives the restrooms.

And guns? Buying lots of guns is a very good sign, because it means that people are wising up, that government can’t keep us safe by itself, and yet they are willing to protect and defend themselves. They are not fatalistic in any way.

If they go down, they will go down fighting, and such resistance make attempts at oppressing us much, much harder.


4 posted on 01/02/2012 8:13:36 PM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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To: Kartographer

A good start.


5 posted on 01/02/2012 8:14:14 PM PST by Free Vulcan (Election 2012 - No Prisoners. No Mercy.)
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To: Kartographer

22LR Rifle

The 22LR will be the most useful weapon of all. You can buy years worth of ammo now for a small investment. They are accurate, and It will bring down all small game, wild and domestic (If the SHTF there won’t be much big game to bring down after a few weeks). Though they are not the best choice for home defense, after the SHTF, the bad guys will be unable to get bullets in a short time, while you have thousands. Nuff said on that. And the report does not carry far, giving away your position, and all members of the family can use it.


6 posted on 01/02/2012 8:22:21 PM PST by NavyCanDo
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To: Kartographer

Thanks for the SHTF links.

That’s very good info.


7 posted on 01/02/2012 8:23:12 PM PST by metmom (For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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To: Kartographer

Important thing to remember...

Evil people without any fear of authority or restraint will become more evil.


8 posted on 01/02/2012 8:26:23 PM PST by NavyCanDo
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To: Kartographer

My wife has a hemorrhoid when I talk about buying freeze dried food. I know that pasta, rice, beans can keep for quite a while, but other than that, what is the longest lasting off the shelf food.
At least she hasn’t objected to my gold, guns, ammo, and alcohol purchases.


9 posted on 01/02/2012 8:27:13 PM PST by grumpygresh (Democrats delenda est; zero sera dans l'enfer bientot.)
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

To hell with that. Our Gov is EVIL, weak and flawed. Talk all the fancy talk, quote all the founders. Our founders warned us of this day. Well, it’s here. This is now, and now is what we are fighting. I won’t be regulated my freedom. F the gov. I’m going to live my life.

If “they” (AKA government) are going to take away my freedom and liberty, I’m going to fight until the end.

Come and get me.


10 posted on 01/02/2012 8:29:02 PM PST by Indy Pendance
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To: Kartographer

Put up 5 more cases of Top Ramen last week... now I don’t want to try to live on Top Ramen, but it’s a good start because you can add just about anything to it, use it as a soup or make a stew-base out of it...


11 posted on 01/02/2012 8:33:20 PM PST by djf (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2801220/posts)
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To: NavyCanDo

Good point. We would not trade our 10/22 with the 25 round banana clips for anything. Besides hunting you could definitely ruin somebody’s day with that weapon. You don’t always have to break out the AK.


12 posted on 01/02/2012 8:34:11 PM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: grumpygresh

Canned foods will last longer then you.


13 posted on 01/02/2012 8:34:18 PM PST by MCF
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To: Kartographer

Lady Gaga bringing in the new year emerging in a black egg is not a good sign for the new year.


14 posted on 01/02/2012 8:36:37 PM PST by RushingWater
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To: NavyCanDo

I just picked a 380. Seriously thinking about a 22lr also..


15 posted on 01/02/2012 8:39:43 PM PST by goseminoles
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To: Kartographer

No where on that list does it mention gold, or other such valuables.


16 posted on 01/02/2012 8:40:33 PM PST by madison10
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To: grumpygresh

Canned food, so long as it is not exposed to extreme temps, is good for years after the use-by date, which date is already years in the future.


17 posted on 01/02/2012 8:43:00 PM PST by JustaDumbBlonde (Don't wish doom on your enemies. Plan it.)
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To: djf

Hope you are putting away some clean water with which to prepare your Top Ramen.


18 posted on 01/02/2012 8:46:06 PM PST by JustaDumbBlonde (Don't wish doom on your enemies. Plan it.)
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy
Buying lots of guns is a very good sign, because it means that people are wising up, that government can’t keep us safe by itself

With so many headlines showing gun sales are up, it will be very telling what the government's reaction will be. I'm also curious how many of those sales involve the proper paperwork.

19 posted on 01/02/2012 8:46:31 PM PST by bgill (The Obama administration is staging a coup. Wake up, America, before it's too late.)
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To: Kartographer

crimony, what a stream of consciousness list...


20 posted on 01/02/2012 8:48:25 PM PST by bigbob
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To: Kartographer
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21 posted on 01/02/2012 8:49:11 PM PST by baddog 219
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To: grumpygresh

boy-ar Dee keeps 2 years and peanut butter keeps 18 month or so.


22 posted on 01/02/2012 8:50:32 PM PST by omega4179 (We can't wait!............. for the end of an error.....1-20-13)
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To: JustaDumbBlonde

I have somewhere between 2 and 3 hundred gallons stashed...


23 posted on 01/02/2012 8:51:55 PM PST by djf (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2801220/posts)
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy
all those "protections" bought recently have all been recorded by the big fellas....a list....

its NOT a good thing IMO that we the people don't trust our own govt....that includes the cops, the military both the officers and the troops, and the justice dept and of course all of our supposed elected officials...

its down right scary...

along with practical preparation, without going nuts about it, people should get in the right "place" in their hearts and souls....get right with God, pray, and gather your families together to support each other...

fellowship will be key...

24 posted on 01/02/2012 8:54:05 PM PST by cherry
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To: JustaDumbBlonde

Better to get a good water filter.


25 posted on 01/02/2012 8:56:37 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: Secret Agent Man

If you have water than you can filter, yes. Everyone should have a good filter and tablets in store. Some folks, say in a large city, aren’t going to necessarily have access to water for filtering, if the city water supply stops flowing. When it gets ugly, one might not be able to safely venture out looking for water. Got to cover your bases by having clean water stored.


26 posted on 01/02/2012 9:03:06 PM PST by JustaDumbBlonde (Don't wish doom on your enemies. Plan it.)
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To: Kartographer

whiskey. Call it “currency”


27 posted on 01/02/2012 9:09:26 PM PST by chesley (Eat what you want, and die like a man. Never trust anyone who hasn't been punched in the face)
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To: NavyCanDo
Evil people without any fear of authority or restraint will become more evil room temperature. There, fixed it. ;)

/johnny

28 posted on 01/02/2012 9:11:14 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: grumpygresh

Try www.waltonfeed.com

A pallet of food costs about $500 and will keep a family alive for 6 mo.

You can buy #10 cans of barley, popcorn, rolled oats, etc. that will keep 20 years or more.

Beans and rice are cheap from the restaurant supply house.

Buy mylar bags and oxygen absorbers to make beans and rice keep 20+ years.

I use Walton’s 8 grain mix to make flour with my grain mill. It makes AWESOME homemade bread at about $.50/loaf.


29 posted on 01/02/2012 9:13:03 PM PST by darth
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To: JustaDumbBlonde
Hope you are putting away some clean water

I come from a family that owns contruction companies specializing in water treatment and sewage treatment plants. I think I can safely use the water in the lake a half-mile away. ;)

/johnny

30 posted on 01/02/2012 9:15:36 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: madison10

Such might be of value after SHTF, but of little use during. Read Selco’s blog on the subject

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2818133/posts


31 posted on 01/02/2012 9:16:37 PM PST by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: JRandomFreeper

The two hundred gallons I got is just a starter... I’m in Seattle, depending on the season I could easily get 20 gallons of rainwater a day with a well-placed tarp...


32 posted on 01/02/2012 9:19:19 PM PST by djf (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2801220/posts)
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To: grumpygresh

White rice, whole wheat (You will need a mill), beans, sugar, honey and spam are some. Review my Preparedness Manual Post #3:

http://www.tomeaker.com/kart/preparedness1i.pdf


33 posted on 01/02/2012 9:19:44 PM PST by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: madison10

Gold tastes bad and is of little use in a SHTF situation.

Gold is an “investment” for tough economic times, NOT mayhem and disorder.


34 posted on 01/02/2012 9:22:39 PM PST by G Larry ("I dream of a day when a man is judged by the content of his Character.")
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To: grumpygresh

Develop a taste for those 1.00 a pack Yakisoba dry noodle boxes with the dried veggies in the box. I think those things can last forever and even if they are designed to be microwaveable they can be cooked in a pot also. It is sort of like undercover emergency supplies, get a case of them tell her you are going to have them at work. They need seasoning besides the wretched stuff that come with them.


35 posted on 01/02/2012 9:30:40 PM PST by dog breath
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To: Kartographer

Re: the list #68, d-con. Don’t use D-Con if you are planning to eat the rats:)

Also from previous discussions, Bic disposable lighters.
Look into Pocket Mega Torch. They will give you a much better flame and won’t burn your fingers. Refillable, about $5


36 posted on 01/02/2012 9:33:35 PM PST by Cold Heart
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To: Kartographer

101: Physical Fitness. Even if you have all the food, guns, ammo, and other supplies you need to last years....if you are 350 lbs. and break a sweat opening a beer, you aren’t prepared.


37 posted on 01/02/2012 9:47:38 PM PST by Washi (Surviving the Zombie Apocalypse, one head-shot at a time.)
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To: grumpygresh
In general think of any unopened canned food having a shelf life of two years (caution: This is only a general rule). Also think of most refrigerated antibiotics having a two-year life.

Before opening canned food make sure there is no evidence that it contains any built-up gasses (a sure sign of spoilage), and make sure it passes the "smell test" immediately after opening.

Throw peanut butter, raw unfiltered honey and some vitamins in with that beans and rice and you'll be in fairly decent shape. A Big Berkey water filter is another nice addition, along with a small supply of calcuium hypochlorite (to make bleach) and a bag or two of lime (to help with solid waste disposal).

Make sure the beans and rice is protected from rodents when stored (almost everyone used 5 gallon food-grade pastic buckets with sealed lids for this purpose).

My wife and I subscribe to the monthly freeze-dried food deliver from "Shelf Reliance". The food we have delievered is freeze-dried meet intended to throw in with the beans and rice to make it more palatable (beans and rice alone, however, are a tremendous source of both carbs and protein).

I highly recommend reading about the calcuium hypocholorite.

Also, lay in more commonly-used ammunition than you think you'll ever need. That has a shelf life of 50 years, and will be what you would use for money in a worst case situation.

38 posted on 01/02/2012 10:09:37 PM PST by The Duke
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To: Washi
101: Physical Fitness. Even if you have all the food, guns, ammo, and other supplies you need to last years....if you are 350 lbs. and break a sweat opening a beer, you aren’t prepared.

Caveat: Those pounds will melt away in the weeks following SHTF, but one still should be prepared in advance, of course. Also, if you're not in good enough condition you may not last for weeks.

39 posted on 01/02/2012 10:14:05 PM PST by The Duke
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To: Kartographer

Bump for reference.


40 posted on 01/02/2012 10:34:16 PM PST by Always A Marine
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To: Kartographer
Gun(s), ammo and matches.

I'll be eating that day and warm sheltered in a couple.

Life will build and grow

41 posted on 01/02/2012 11:57:50 PM PST by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true)
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To: Indy Pendance

>>To hell with that. Our Gov is EVIL, weak and flawed. Talk all the fancy talk, quote all the founders. Our founders warned us of this day. Well, it’s here. This is now, and now is what we are fighting. I won’t be regulated my freedom. F the gov. I’m going to live my life.<<

Amen, brother. I fight in every way I can. Sometimes small (my census was filled out NOYFB); sometimes big (TEA Party marches, in-your-face with politicians).

>>If “they” (AKA government) are going to take away my freedom and liberty, I’m going to fight until the end.

Come and get me.<<

They may TRY to take away our freedoms, but it will be a costly fight. And they better pack a lunch.


42 posted on 01/03/2012 2:19:26 AM PST by NTHockey (Rules of engagement #1: Take no prisoners)
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To: omega4179

PB is being rationed at BJ’s (Costco clone)due to poor harvest.


43 posted on 01/03/2012 2:21:56 AM PST by NTHockey (Rules of engagement #1: Take no prisoners)
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To: djf

Easy water distiller - a big spaghetti pot with an angel food cake pan (one that has a hole in the middle) that fits snugly into bigger pot.

Put water in the big pot, start to boil make a dome top out of aluminum foil seal well. Water will make steam, steam will hit foil dome and slowly drip down into the angel food cake pan. Pure H2O.


44 posted on 01/03/2012 2:48:29 AM PST by 30Moves
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To: madison10
No where on that list does it mention gold, or other such valuables.

When the store shelves are bare there will still be plenty of silver, gold and diamonds. But what good is it when there is nothing for sale?

You can't eat it, defend your home with it, or shoot a squirel with it.

How many Kugerrands will the last can of beans be worth to a starving man?


45 posted on 01/03/2012 4:09:12 AM PST by Iron Munro ("Don't pick a fight with an old man. If he is too old to fight he'll just kill you." John Steinbeck)
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To: 30Moves

That takes a lot of energy a Berkey Filter takes none.


46 posted on 01/03/2012 4:12:30 AM PST by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: Georgia Girl 2

My plan as well. I don’t know anyone who wants to be shot with a 22. Not the most powerful but definitely part of the plan.


47 posted on 01/03/2012 4:13:11 AM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: djf

300 gallons will last a single person about 3 months at most. depending on weather and activity levels.


48 posted on 01/03/2012 4:15:09 AM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: 30Moves

Boiling enough water takes a lot of time, work, and fire.


49 posted on 01/03/2012 4:19:38 AM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Kartographer

Since I’ve been down with a bug, I’d add various meds to the list; dayquil/nyquil-types for symptomatic relief, and to help you sleep, etc.
Stuff for the runs...besides first-aid kits, there’s a few more conditions I can’t think of right now...


50 posted on 01/03/2012 4:25:32 AM PST by spankalib (The Marx-in-the-Parks crowd is a basement skunkworks operation of the AFL-CIO)
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