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BREAKING - Arpaio: ICE refusing to take illegal immigrants from MCSO
KHPO Phoenix ^ | 12-22-2011 | John Hill - stand With Arizona

Posted on 12/21/2011 9:27:31 PM PST by montag813

From Stand With Arizona's Facebook page:

PHOENIX (KPHO) -

Sheriff Joe Arpaio had his first run-in with a group of suspected illegal immigrants since things heated up with the Department of Justice.

The Department of Justice recently revoked his deputies' ability to check immigration status inside Maricopa County jails.

Maricopa County Sheriff's Office Lt. Justin Griffin says they pulled over a vehicle and have eight people in their custody for human smuggling at 35th Avenue and Durango.

Griffin says they attempted to give four of the detainees to U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement, but MCSO says ICE is refusing to take them.

Griffin says, "We asked ICE, 'If we were DPS, would you take them from us?' And we were told specifically, 'Yes.'"

Stay with KPHO.com and CBS 5 for more on this developing story.


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SWA: It is already happening: the safety of the people of AZ and America being put at greater risk - thanks to Obama's racial politics. DHS revoked Sheriff Joe's ability to check immigration status inside his jails. JUST 1 HR AGO, MCSO Lt. Justin Griffin says they pulled over a vehicle and have 8 people in custody for human smuggling....they attempted to give 4 of the detainees to ICE, but ICE REFUSED to take them! Meanwhile ICE has replaced 91 of Arpaio's immigration deputies with ONE agent. This for a department which apprehends 25% of the nation's criminal illegals. Where will they end up now? TX? CA? WA? OH? YOUR neighborhood? This is the lawless insanity Obama has brought to America.
1 posted on 12/21/2011 9:27:34 PM PST by montag813
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To: montag813

If ICE refuses to do their jobs defund them and let the states protect their own borders from foreign invasion until we get a government that will actually obey the Constitution.

How do we lay the heat on ICE for refusing to do their jobs? This is lawlessness, pure and simple.

DHS, Holder, and a bunch of other agencies are arming Mexican drug cartels, aiding in covering up the truth, demanding that they be the only ones who can enforce the laws, and then refusing to enforce the laws. They are literally holding this country hostage by refusing to let anybody but them enforce law and then refusing to do it themselves.

These people are declaring war on America openly.

How do we respond? What can we do?


2 posted on 12/21/2011 9:35:07 PM PST by butterdezillion
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To: montag813
When deputies contacted ICE to turn them over, they reportedly refused. MCSO contacted Border Patrol, which agreed to take custody. However, deputies have to drive the subjects down to Casa Grande.

"Homeland security, you will not pick up any more illegal aliens from the sheriff's office, you will do it for other agencies, but not the sheriff's office? This is another conspiracy starting with their press conference on their 3-year investigation by the Department of Justice."

http://www.myfoxphoenix.com/dpp/news/crime/mcso-ice-refused-to-book-admitted-illegals-12-21-2011

3 posted on 12/21/2011 9:36:10 PM PST by montag813
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To: montag813

BTW....”DPS” from the story = AZ Department of Public Safety - the State Troopers.


4 posted on 12/21/2011 9:38:16 PM PST by montag813
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To: montag813

I lay this squarely at the White Hut steps.


5 posted on 12/21/2011 9:38:36 PM PST by Old Sarge (RIP FReeper Skyraider (1930-2011) - You Are Missed)
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To: montag813

Perry MUST harp on this loudly - asap - non stop!


6 posted on 12/21/2011 9:41:00 PM PST by presently no screen name
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To: montag813

Arpaio should turn them over to DPS, who would contact ICE. But, that would likely end quickly because ICE would then refuse to take them from DPS (They have a beef with Gov Brewer).


7 posted on 12/21/2011 9:41:31 PM PST by Thunder90 (Fighting for truth and the American way... http://citizensfortruthandtheamericanway.blogspot.com/)
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To: montag813

The Feds are basically refusing their obligation to the States at this point...raising a basic question as to why exactly should Arizonans continue to send in Federal tax receipts?


8 posted on 12/21/2011 9:44:36 PM PST by mo
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To: montag813

Start a special Tent Jail and name it OBAMA JAIL.


9 posted on 12/21/2011 9:45:23 PM PST by donna (This is what happens when America is no longer a Christian nation.)
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To: montag813

OK - now where is BIG MOUTH mitt - he said he would send them all back as did MB - I want to hear them raise hell about this. Chirps.


10 posted on 12/21/2011 9:46:59 PM PST by presently no screen name
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To: mo

Why are we paying these ICE people a wage? For that matter, why are we paying Janet Napolitano and her criminal colleagues? So they can disable the whole law enforcement system by guaranteeing that nobody has authority to enforce the laws except them - and they refuse to do so?

It’s like paying somebody to hold the arms of a girl so she can be raped without any means of self-defense.

Disgusting. There’s got to be something we can do besides stand around and click our tongues. This is war declared on the US by our own government.


11 posted on 12/21/2011 9:48:24 PM PST by butterdezillion
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To: Thunder90
Arpaio should turn them over to DPS, who would contact ICE. But, that would likely end quickly because ICE would then refuse to take them from DPS (They have a beef with Gov Brewer).

No dice. ICE is making DPS take them to Case Grande - a long drive - to the Border Patrol. The smuggling charges are then dropped and the illegals are most likely released within a few hours. This is total lawlessness. La Raza is running U.S. immigration enforcement policy as of last week. It is a nightmare, and Americans will DIE as a result. Maricopa County is the 4th most populous in the U.S. Arpaio and his hundreds of deputies apprehended and detained 25% of ALL criminal illegals last year. Just imagine if that drops to near ZERO - what that will mean for the entire country.

12 posted on 12/21/2011 9:48:26 PM PST by montag813
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To: butterdezillion
You're right, if ICE refuses to do their job de-fund them ASAP, like tonight. I would go further and bring them up on charges if at all possible. These {expletives} are not going to play politics and social agenda with my security. They don't get to pick and choose what laws they enforce, and on whom they enforce them. That's racism, that's dereliction of duty. Someone should end up in prison.
13 posted on 12/21/2011 9:50:44 PM PST by ThunderSleeps (Stop obama now! Stop the hussein - insane agenda!)
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To: montag813

"ICE has replaced 91 of Arpaio's immigration deputies with ONE agent"


14 posted on 12/21/2011 9:52:22 PM PST by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto.)
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To: butterdezillion
They are literally holding this country hostage by refusing to let anybody but them enforce law and then refusing to do it themselves.

I seem to remember a certain king of England that did exactly the same thing to us...or so the Declaration of Independence states, anyway.

15 posted on 12/21/2011 9:53:01 PM PST by papertyger
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To: montag813

This is all about the investigation into the illegal-alien, usurper in the White House and Fast & Furious.

Arpaio’s investigation started back in September and I really hope got all the information he needed from the databases before Obama and the thugs at the DOJ pulled the plug on his capabilities.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2817691/posts

“The American people deserve to know the truth about Obama,” Arpaio said. “We are a major law enforcement agency – one of the largest in the nation – and we have at our disposal investigative tools not generally available, even to the top private investigator in the country. We don’t plan to stop until we discover the truth.”


16 posted on 12/21/2011 9:53:24 PM PST by Smokeyblue
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To: ThunderSleeps

When arrests are made are those names made public? Can somebody keep a list of names that ICE let go, and then when somebody on that list commits a robbery, rape, or murder, the victim can charge ICE with being accomplices to the crime?

Seems like RICO should put the entire federal government to an end, if justice were actually implemented. It’s just one big, bloody, stinking racket.


17 posted on 12/21/2011 9:54:23 PM PST by butterdezillion
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To: butterdezillion

We have bent over too much for Obama and his thugs. The only thing left is the kiss. We have become a People of the government, by the government and for the government. Obama is no King. If he can violate his sworn duty, we damn well should be able to pick and chose the laws we obey.


18 posted on 12/21/2011 9:54:30 PM PST by Dapper 26
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To: butterdezillion

Can they drop them off at the border themselves i.e. deport them?


19 posted on 12/21/2011 9:55:02 PM PST by heiss (heartless and inhumane (radical rightwinger))
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Americans, prepare to defend yourselves.


20 posted on 12/21/2011 9:55:09 PM PST by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto.)
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To: montag813
VERY disturbing video from earlier today:

ICE-Trained MCSO Deputies Turn In Badges

Nearly 100 ICE-trained deputies checked the immigration status of inmates at their jails. In place of all those deputies, the feds pledged to have 50 ICE agents in place at the jails. So far, they've only sent one.

"I'm going to keep tabs to see what year, or what century, those 50 agents take to replace our dedicated officers."

The sheriff says the holds placed on suspected illegals have decreased dramatically since his authority was stripped.

"Common sense and good management would be, ok sheriff we're going to take away your authority, but please keep doing it until we get our 50 officers to take over. No, they kicked us out. Putting public safety at risk," said Arpaio.

The sheriff said when his deputies were running the show, they put holds on an average of 15.5 suspected illegal immigrants a day. Since ICE took over last week, they've only placed holds on 3 people.


21 posted on 12/21/2011 9:58:29 PM PST by montag813
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To: butterdezillion

You got it. I say it is time to start holding the people pulling the strings accountable. When their lilly-white backsides start landing in jail they’ll soon change their tune regarding political correctness and politics.


22 posted on 12/21/2011 9:59:16 PM PST by ThunderSleeps (Stop obama now! Stop the hussein - insane agenda!)
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To: montag813

What a freakin surprise!

Rick Perry told you whats up.

The Feds ARE the problem. Obama is ****ing with Arpiao just to send a message to all the states who are serious about sending these illegals back.

Jail Holder and Napalitano.


23 posted on 12/21/2011 9:59:33 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: Smokeyblue

The Obama thugs are overstepping their bounds. The whole country needs to see what these people are willing to do in order to cover for Obama. One lie is never enough, and I was saying back in January of 2010 that if we allowed the criminal actions of Obama in regards to his eligibility to go unchecked it would lead to full-out lawlessness. That’s exactly what we’re seeing. Anybody who claims this is a fringe issue needs to look at what these criminals in positions of power are willing to do to cover for Obama, who they know to be an illegal, criminal usurper and enemy combatant in the White House.

They are willing to throw out all law enforcement.

All the crocodile tears for people not being safe unless we give more money to police unions, etc.... is sickening, especially when they have revealed their true colors with AZ. They would happily put every citizen in danger by getting rid of law enforcement in order to cover their own crimes.

No words are strong enough to describe the putrid stench from this administration. This is a declaration of war against the USA.


24 posted on 12/21/2011 9:59:54 PM PST by butterdezillion
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To: butterdezillion

We are defending the borders as states.
The problem is that the Feds are thwarting the states.


25 posted on 12/21/2011 10:00:56 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: butterdezillion

Arpaio should put up a large tent city, armed guards on towers, refuse entry to all federal officials, hold all the detainees there indefinitely. Feed them only what is delivered and paid for by the fed gov.


26 posted on 12/21/2011 10:02:26 PM PST by Bobalu (even Jesus knew the poor would always be with us)
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To: combat_boots

It is TREASON!


27 posted on 12/21/2011 10:03:07 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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butterdezillion


"There’s got to be something we can do"

The first step is to quit thinking in terms of 'we.'

HAVE A COOL YULE

CLICK HERE FOR GIFT


28 posted on 12/21/2011 10:05:19 PM PST by I see my hands (The old sod ne'er shall be forgot.)
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To: combat_boots

Amazing isn’t it?
The FEDs aren’t waging war on the illegals.
They are waging war on states rights.


29 posted on 12/21/2011 10:07:15 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: ThunderSleeps

Wanna know the real irony? The Injustice Department accused Arpaio of not sufficiently investigating alleged crimes. But ICE gets a crew of people who have admitted they committed the crime of entering the country illegally and ICE REFUSES TO ACCEPT THEM.

I say judge them by the measure they have judged Arpaio. If they’re going to strip Arpaio of authority because he didn’t sufficiently investigate, then we need to strip ICE of any authority because they refused to even process what they KNEW to be crimes.

We need to insist that along with the Fast & Furious investigation into how these agencies have retaliated against the whistle-blowers who support the law, the investigation needs to also include this attempted strangulation of the rule of the law by the same criminals from Fast & Furious (DHS specifically in this case).

This is all-out war against America. Well, I guess if they can commit acts of war against Mexico why not commit acts of war against the US? Neither place is the place Obama has allegiance to.


30 posted on 12/21/2011 10:07:30 PM PST by butterdezillion
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To: All

Wake up people!

Rick Perry understands that we are under assault!


31 posted on 12/21/2011 10:09:46 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: Bobalu

how about we emulate Mexico, and just feed them what THEIR government pays for.


32 posted on 12/21/2011 10:10:54 PM PST by Segovia
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To: montag813

Joe needs to turn them over to DPS. Now it is a statewide issue.


33 posted on 12/21/2011 10:11:03 PM PST by eyedigress ((Old storm chaser from the west)?)
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To: montag813
Some fun facts:

Maricopa County, AZ is the 4th most populous in the United States. Its population is larger than 23 STATES - nearly 4 million.

Joe Arpaio's MSCO apprehends and detains 25% of ALL criminal illegal aliens in the U.S. each year. Arpaio has - correction, until this morning HAD - 91 deputies who did nothing else but check immigration status in his jails. Today, ICE replaced them all with ONE agent. His deputies detain on average 16 criminal illegals per day. Since ICE took over last week, they have detained a grand total of 3.

The numbers involved are staggering. People are going to DIE because of Obama's action who would not have died before, and not just in Arizona. This is not a game. People do not realize the numbers involved here.

34 posted on 12/21/2011 10:12:58 PM PST by montag813
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To: butterdezillion
These people are declaring war on America openly. How do we respond?

Give them in-state college tuition and stop being so heartless.

35 posted on 12/21/2011 10:13:21 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: mylife

When Arpaio endorsed Rick Perry it made me think that Perry must be tougher on illegal immigration than we all think he is. Somebody tell me again what Perry has said about illegal immigration, and what he has done. I know he basically said we’d be heartless if we didn’t allow in-state tuition for the children of illegals. I know he’s said there are portions of the border that he thinks can’t really have a fence. So why is Arpaio endorsing him? Tell me how you know Perry understands that we are under assault.


36 posted on 12/21/2011 10:14:53 PM PST by butterdezillion
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To: montag813

Where the hell is Senator Juan McInsane on this?!
First F&F and now this Bravo Sierra.
The DOJ is out of control.


37 posted on 12/21/2011 10:15:20 PM PST by TaMoDee (GO PACK GO to Super Bowl XLVI)
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To: Dapper 26

Thank you for posting a backwards Lincoln speech. Obama is full of shit and his asshat AG is going down. If any TEA Party Congress Legislators are paying attention, keep it open through Christmas. Make this bastard pay.


38 posted on 12/21/2011 10:15:53 PM PST by eyedigress ((Old storm chaser from the west)?)
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To: butterdezillion

Impeachable offense. There is only so much the American People can take of this treason. They are really crossing the line.


39 posted on 12/21/2011 10:16:37 PM PST by AmericanInTokyo (Many attempts were made over the years to kill Kim Jong il. This one may finally have succeeded.)
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To: montag813

Weapon and ammo up, even further folks.


40 posted on 12/21/2011 10:17:52 PM PST by AmericanInTokyo (Many attempts were made over the years to kill Kim Jong il. This one may finally have succeeded.)
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To: mylife

“The FEDs aren’t waging war on the illegals. They are waging war on states rights.”

No, they are waging war against the American citizen. Apparently the Occupy Wall Street people are the only ones making noise about it.


41 posted on 12/21/2011 10:18:26 PM PST by kearnyirish2
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To: butterdezillion

Whatever it is, it cannot be talked on open mic here on FR. Very frustrating. Outrageous actually.


42 posted on 12/21/2011 10:20:02 PM PST by AmericanInTokyo (Many attempts were made over the years to kill Kim Jong il. This one may finally have succeeded.)
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To: butterdezillion

Afro-America.


43 posted on 12/21/2011 10:20:49 PM PST by bushpilot1
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To: eyedigress
Joe needs to turn them over to DPS. Now it is a statewide issue.

That won't work. ICE is forcing DPS to bring them to Case Grande Border Patrol, where smuggling charges are dropped (it is against AZ law), and they are released within hours. There is no way around Obama's foreign national voter registration drive.

44 posted on 12/21/2011 10:20:53 PM PST by montag813
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To: AmericanInTokyo; rolling_stone

Didn’t the union for ICE and Border Patrol do something to show they despise the crap the upper management has been doing to them? Like a vote of no-confidence?

What will it take for the whistle-blowers within those agencies to come forward just like the people did in Fast & Furious?

Maybe that’s why ICE put only one person there to replace what Arpaio had. No underlings to tell the truth to the public...


45 posted on 12/21/2011 10:21:32 PM PST by butterdezillion
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To: butterdezillion

Maybe it’s because Mylife is from Texas and has seen what Perry has either done or wanted to do, but is hampered by the feds.

Mexico, a country, is not obligated to deal with a state, so there’s not much Texas can do without the cooperation of the federal government.


46 posted on 12/21/2011 10:21:32 PM PST by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults.)
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To: butterdezillion

Sheriff Joe Arpaio needs the help of a dozen or more other county Sheriff’s to stand with him, so he isn’t facing ICE, Holder and the justice by himself. The county sheriffs are in a strong position to fight the battle against the Fed’s, but need to do it in greater numbers.

Of course help by someone in the Media would be an added plus.


47 posted on 12/21/2011 10:23:00 PM PST by Balata (It's 'WE THE PEOPLE' Obama, not 'WE THE SHEEPLE'!)
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To: montag813

I don’t understand why Pinal County must take them unless you mean the FED at Florence. Is that it....


48 posted on 12/21/2011 10:23:37 PM PST by eyedigress ((Old storm chaser from the west)?)
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To: butterdezillion

“One lie is never enough, and I was saying back in January of 2010 that if we allowed the criminal actions of Obama in regards to his eligibility to go unchecked it would lead to full-out lawlessness. That’s exactly what we’re seeing. Anybody who claims this is a fringe issue needs to look at what these criminals in positions of power are willing to do to cover for Obama, who they know to be an illegal, criminal usurper and enemy combatant in the White House.”

Exactly. Many of us (you included) have been saying this since before the election.

They let the criminal (Obama) into their homes and then start complaining that he starts robbing, raping, and pillaging.

The very FIRST step in all these atrocities was letting the illegal into the White House in the first place.

Fast & Furious
Obama-scare
Solyndra
Government Motors
Muslim Brotherhood Spring
Perverted Safe School Czars
Etc.


49 posted on 12/21/2011 10:24:06 PM PST by Smokeyblue
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To: kearnyirish2
Apparently the Occupy Wall Street people are the only ones making noise about it.

Occupy Wall Street last week joined forces with the illegal alien lobby. It is worse than ever on the immigration front:

Occupy The Border (OWS and Illegals Join Forces in Manhattan)

50 posted on 12/21/2011 10:24:40 PM PST by montag813 (http://www.StandWithArizona.com)
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