Posted on 10/21/2011 6:26:28 PM PDT by joeclarke
Unless you are a Democrat, President Obama's experience with the Rev. Jeremiah Wright was a great concern. The flap with Wright, and the twenty-some years candidate Barack spent under the tutelage of the race-baiting racist, was quckly ended when BO threw the Rev. under the old church bus.
Obviously, Republicans are lot more discerning when it comes to qualifications. Democrats will vote for anyone that gets the lib hype, whereas Repubs will usually flay the candidtate until bone is revealed. Mitt Romney has more than a chance among Evangelicals than he has ever had, as the "Anybody But Obama," has replaced the "Anyone But Bush" mantra from four years ago. Still, we must examine Mormonism and its strange doctrines and teachings which could indicate how Mitt would run a country. Their doctrines have changed more rapidly through the years than Mitt's tax plans.
Every sect of Christianity has its pecccadiloes, and, Lord have mercy, even some of our old standby, patriotic, constitutionalist, Southern Baptsists have erred in respects. Jimmy Carter got a lot of the Born Again vote, because he preached Born Againism. However, Jimmy was not only a non effectual president, he was also not much of a Baptist, and he is the last Democrat I voted for. In the years succeeding his presidency we found out more about his particular Baptist beliefs, especially, that he had animosity toward Israel, and worse, his Plains, Georgia Baptist Church would invite Buddhists, Immans, and other new age religonists to preach their brand of "good news" in his church's Sunday School classes.
I would not think of electing a Mainline Protestant Church member,if their church endorsed Biblical sodomy, and gay marriage, such as do many Methodists, Presbyterians, Epsicopalians, United Church of Christ, etc. A candidate congregating with these apsotate churches might consider it a command of God to endorse homosexuality later in his presidency. I'm sure President Obama acting out within his religious mores believes that gays should be given special rights in and out of the military, much to the detriment of the nation. Even Pastor Mike Huckabee is very careful not to offend his Friends at Fox by not seeming to be too judgemental in regards to homosexuality. Could hurt ratings. The above churches also seem not reluctant to object to a "women's right" to end the life of her preborn child.
As a former Catholic, who for many years marched to Mass while in parochial school from elementary through high school, I am very thankful for the advanced educations I received from the RC's - back when there was no tuition! So, we may question some of the doctrines of the Mormon Church, and not things like transubstantiation, praying to saints, especially Mary, and the supernatural power of the priesthood? Even if we would not agree with the use of relics and rosaries, would that prohibit us from voting for a Catholic president? I and other fundamentalists have been staunch supporters of Catholic Alan Keyes, and even journeyed to Notre Dame University to protest ND's leaning to the left - way left. I must say it was hard to be in one accord with Alan, as he marched on the ND campus carrying a large banner donned with a picture of Jesus's mother, Mary.
I've always considered Mormonism to be a sort of grafting of some of man's fantasies with with the Holy Bible. As with the Book of Mormon, you can see the same thing in the Koran, where it is obvious that a lot of Islamic stories and verse were ripped right out of the Bible.
The Mormons have the Angel Moroni visiting Joseph Smith, yet you have Mary visiting people at various times in history. Does that disqualify Catholics? Mormonism has other oddities such as humans having god power, secret underwear, Masonic links, Jesus and Satan were "brothers," at one time, God originated as a mere man, etc., but how would that direct Romney's political life? The Presidents of the Mormon Church are overly honored, possibly beyond the Papacy, and revered as high priests, prophets, seers, revelators, rulers and are considered nearly "infallible." However, there are provisions that the LDS President can be removed if he would mislead the flock. Notwithstanding, not one president has ever been removed in Latter Day Saint history. My reasoning goes, if Mitt's Mormon president is nearly infallible, could Mitt ascribe the same traits to himself? Could that be why he will not relent on his infamous Massachusetts Romney Care, and not admit it has become a billion dollar boondoggle?
The most pressing question about Mitt's faith is his understanding of who Jesus Christ is. Catholics, without doubt, believe in the divinity of Christ, unlike the Mormons who do not see Jesus, the Son of God, as also being God. If He was less than God, how could His sacrifice have been considered a proper propitiation for the sin of the world? Yet, the Mormons may believe more like Thomas Jefferson, a Deist, who did not believe in the Godliness of Jesus, as did not other colonials. The problem with this is that as man degrades Jesus, he lifts himself higher in the spiritual scheme of things: Jesus is merely a Good Example, and not Savior.
Liberal mainline protestants have always claimed that Jesus is divine but their current doctrines prohibit obedience to the One who is supposedly the Head of their Church. In short, someone who believes Jesus is Lord is more apt to obey Him, since He has been honored with Divine authority.
I like Rick Perry, despite the fact that even Fox News, Laura Ingraham, Carl Rove, and other conservative pundits have labeled him ineffective, not smart, and ill prepared. I could even see Chris Wallace's face contort as he unnecessarily tore into Perry, as he did Michelle Bachmann. When Perry and Romney were trading punches in the last debate, Anderson Cooper was giggling like a girl, lapping up the discord between the two men.
Rick Perry does not seem as wooden or plastic as Romney and has a humilty that I admire. Governor Perry, despite his low blows to Romney at the last debate, and other gaffs, is much less practiced in public speaking (better than President W, though), and he is more of a doer than a politico. Perry is chided for not answering questions according to the interviewers designs, as he commonly answers questions with, "Drill Here, Drill Now," because he is one of the few candidates which understands the energy choking policies of the Environmental Protection Agency. Governor Perry is a non-denominational Christian attending a sort of Methodist church which is technically a Southern Baptist church.
I am even more interested in Perry, as I see Dick Morris, Dennis Miller and Bill O'Reilly denigrate him, and the fact that he is perceived as the weakest Republican candidate by the Lamestream Democrat intelligentsia also enhances his resume in my mind.
And that is why Big Media, and Fox, has targeted him. Perry took the risk of looking like a grand stander for political reasons, but I believe he was, and is sincere about the need for America to seek Divine Providence despite how Fox and Friends grades him.
I don't demand that candidates profess this sort of faith at every turn, but Mitt, what do you believe?
what is a “former catholic mormon”?
His Mormonism didn’t seem to affect his Governing of Mass. However, his idiocy did and that concerns me more.
Affect.
A man of character is what we need.
what is a “former catholic mormon”?
Should be “former Catholic, Mormon”
Oops! ;-)
“Affect” Instead of “Effect”
I corrected it at my blog site, but thanks for correction.
“So most of the time affect with an a is a verb and effect with an e is a noun. There are rare instances where the roles are switched,” From Grammar Girl at http://grammar.quickanddirtytips.com/affect-versus-effect.aspx
We’ve lost this nation because we continue to argue over trivialities which we consider important.
A politician’s philosophy on government is what’s important. Pelosi is Catholic, Obama is a Christian...blah blah blah. Their religion does not matter. Their governmental philosophy does.
“A man of character is what we need.”
Character is rather subjective - means different things to different people. How about some nuts and bolts descriptions of what good character believes. Ten Commandments? Book of Mormon? Bible? Rules For Radicals?
Example: Barack Obama’s Leadership and Character Traits
Citizenship is the character of an individual viewed as a member of society or their behavior in terms of the duties, obligations, and functions of a citizen. President Obama demonstrated very eloquent citizenship when he worked as a community organizer in the south side of Chicago:
robamney
He grew up in and atheist household. Sat in a pew listening to a preacher who preached anti-white, non Christian (Jesus is Lord) sermons. Kowtows to Muslims (spent time in a Madrassa). Christian, I think not.
Romney is a gay-loving, gun-grabbing, culture of death-supporting, big-government-loving statist. There is no basis to the issue of how his religious beliefs impact his electability because he is an f-ing fraud when it comes to his “republicanism” or “conservatism”. No conservative should ever support him because he is a fraud.
Piss on Romney and ALL his sycophants.
“His Mormonism didn’t seem to affect his Governing of Mass”
Mitt as Gov was like Kerry on the Swift Boats. Both were acting out a gig to use the cred for later ambition. Mitt ran for president starting Year 2, according to a columnist in the Herald.
The real question is how would his Liberalism effect the country.
By the time she was in sixth grade, she didn't know if she was Carmen or Cohen.
A former Catholic Mormon is a Glenn Beck!
Actually, according to “The” church, he is just a lapsed Catholic.
I second that!
One of the most important things the next president will do is appoint justices to SCOTUS. I wouldn't count on Mitt Romney not to appoint another Kagan or Sotomayor if for no other reason than to appease the left.
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