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Chancellor Merkelís Belgrade Ultimatum
Modern Tokyo Times ^ | August 30, 2011 | Dr. Vojin Joksimovich

Posted on 08/30/2011 10:57:17 AM PDT by Ravnagora

German Chancellor Angela Merkel and Serbian President Boris Tadic

On August 23 German Chancellor Angela Merkel visited Belgrade. The first leg of her trip was Zagreb where she met with Croatian leaders. In Belgrade she met with Serbian leaders including a one-on-one session with President Tadic. The upshot was her blunt dictate that Serbia must meet the following demands in order to qualify for consideration of EU membership: progress in the Belgrade-Pristina dialog, normalization of relations including abandonment of parallel structures in Kosovo; administrative and legal reforms, and satisfying the 1995 Copenhagen criteria. Merkel pointed out that Germany would like to see Serbia into the EU, but Germany has recognized Kosovo and Serbia has not. She recognized that resolution of the Kosovo issue is a lengthy process but it should be done now rather than later. It appears President Tadic was naively hopeful that arrests and deliveries of General Mladic and Goran Hadzic to the International Tribunal for Former Yugoslavia (ICTY) were sufficient to obtain the EU candidate status by the year end and even the date for opening the EU membership negotiations. It has been apparent for years that Serbia cannot win and that even after numerous humiliations new ones are in store. Nonetheless President Tadic and his government continue with their EU membership quest since according to them Serbia has “no alternative.”

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TOPICS: History; Politics
KEYWORDS: angelamerkel; croatia; europeanunion; formeryugoslavia; germany; kosovo; kumbaya; merkel; serbia

1 posted on 08/30/2011 10:57:26 AM PDT by Ravnagora
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To: joan; Smartass; zagor-te-nej; Lion in Winter; Honorary Serb; jb6; Incorrigible; DTA; vooch; ...


2 posted on 08/30/2011 10:59:28 AM PDT by Ravnagora
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To: Ravnagora

I like what Merkel has done for Germany but this is the same Diktat that the Germans gave Serbia before - surrender. If Tadic gives in I can see the same pattern as before with continued fighting until it blows up. The only way this ends peacefully is by shutting down the Albanian thugs.

3 posted on 08/30/2011 11:00:43 AM PDT by JMS
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To: Ravnagora

Note to Angela: Shut your gaping pie-hole, since its your country’s meddling that instigated this Balkan mess in the first place. Go tell your ustasa stoolies to go f**k themselves.

4 posted on 08/30/2011 11:04:25 AM PDT by montyspython (This thread needs more cowbell)
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To: Ravnagora

Why the h-ll does Serbia want to join the EU anyway? Why would the Serbs like to have Brussels as their capital?

If they wait a few months Merkel will no longer be German chancellor, and a few more months, maybe the EUrozone will split up, and then the EU will be very shaky indeed.

5 posted on 08/30/2011 11:21:34 AM PDT by ScaniaBoy (Part of the Right Wing Research & Attack Machine)
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To: Ravnagora

This is exactly what the Germans want, they instigated the Balkan Wars to obtain a re-alliance with their former nazi loving Croats and Muslims, and to establish a Muslim state in central europe.

6 posted on 08/30/2011 11:26:32 AM PDT by gitmogrunt
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To: Ravnagora
Dear Chancellor Merkel and UN crowd:

OldCorps recognizes Kosovo as an integral part of Serbia. The Albanian interlopers, funded by the CIA and Saudi Arabia, are illegal aliens in Kosovo and should be subject to deportation from Kosovo. If however, said illegal aliens participated in the desecration of Orthodox monasteries and churches, then they will be subject extreme measures.

7 posted on 08/30/2011 11:27:35 AM PDT by OldCorps
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Is Merkel Stasi agent ANITA or isn’t she?

9 posted on 08/30/2011 11:37:22 AM PDT by DTA (U.S. Centcom vs. U.S. AFRICOM)
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To: Ravnagora
Maybe Russia needs to give Merkel a nudge toward the door since her days are numbered as the EU member bailouts take more and more of the German economy.
10 posted on 08/30/2011 12:55:30 PM PDT by Truth29
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To: Ravnagora; DTA

I—as with the vast majority of Serbia’s patriots and friends abroad—am a Eurosceptic of long standing. Now it looks like events are proving us Eurosceptics right, and the EU is about to go down hard. No country should want to jump onto that sinking ship!!!!

Besides, the EU is an enemy of Serbia’s culture and her Orthodox faith. The requirement that Serbia submit to that vile “gay parade”, and that Vladika Amfilohije be indicted for “hate speech” for speaking out against this abomination says it all!!!! Joining the EU will mean being inundated with hordes of muslim immigrants, “gays”, feminazis, and Sorosite “human rightsers”, and the loss of Serbia’s educated young people to Western Europe.

Finally, Kosovo is Serbia! Vojvodina, Raska, and Presevo are also Serbia! So are Republika Srpska and Montenegro (Crna Gora)!!!! And Karadzic, Mladic, and Hadzic should NOT have been sent to the kangaroo “court” in The Hague!!!!

Serbia must DUMP her quisling government, and learn how such independent but prosperous countries as Switzerland do things. They should also get together with Russia and the rest of their Orthodox Brothers, some of whom will soon be dumped by the EU as it goes down.

And America must DUMP her QUISLING government, too!!!!

11 posted on 08/30/2011 1:02:16 PM PDT by Honorary Serb (Kosovo is Serbia! Free Srpska! Abolish ICTY!)
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To: Ravnagora

Serbia ought to promote herself as the un-EU nation in Europe. As Sarah would say: How’s that EU thingy working out for you?

12 posted on 08/30/2011 2:16:33 PM PDT by MadelineZapeezda (ChelseaHandlerZapeezda2)
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To: Ravnagora


13 posted on 08/30/2011 4:28:34 PM PDT by bayouranger (The 1st victim of islam is the person who practices the lie.)
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To: Ravnagora
I would ask this scum bag if she would be willing to dissolve Germany for the murder of tens of millions over the past 100 years?

Tadic is a moron, he will give his soul to the devil.

Smash the criminal scum in Kosovo and then talk.

14 posted on 08/31/2011 10:29:13 AM PDT by SQUID
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Thanks Ravnagora.

15 posted on 08/31/2011 6:56:16 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (It's never a bad time to FReep this link --
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To: MadelineZapeezda
Serbia ought to promote herself as the un-EU nation in Europe.

EXACTLY. This is what Serbia should have/should do. In time, she would be the hero for doing so.


16 posted on 09/02/2011 5:07:20 AM PDT by Ravnagora
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To: All
On Germany’s fanatical anti-Serbian efforts


September 1, 2011

Recently, German Chancellor Angel Merkel visited Belgrade to deliver yet more arbitrary demands on Serbia before the nation will be considered for the problematic and possibly soon-to-collapse European Union. This reminded me of the brutal ultimatum that Austria delivered to Serbia just before the outbreak of WWI and after the assassination of Archduke Franz Ferdinand by Gavrilo Princip, a Bosnian Serb, and which led to the popular phrase: "Serbien muss sterbien" ("Serbs must die!".

Of course, to those of us with a modicum of historical knowledge pertaining to Germany's shameful mistreatment of the Serbs during the entire 20th Century these unrealistic, illegal, and harsh demands (such as forcing the Serbs to give up their Jerusalem, the heart of their Serbian Orthodox Christian Faith in Kosovo) were no surprise to anyone except perhaps Serbia's President, Boris Tadic who more often than not appears as a NATO-sponsored quisling/puppet overseeing the planned-well-in-advance dismantling of Tito's rump Serbia in the "reduce Serbia at all costs" and "divide and conquer" spirit that generations of German governments have obsessively and fanatically pursued in the Balkans. This uninterrupted continuity of anti-Serbian bullying and behavior calls into question the claims by post-WWII German leaders that Germany has atoned for its shameful Nazi past.

No people infuriated Hitler more than the Serbs when Serbian officers led a putsch and tore up the Tripartite Pact in 1941 inflicting "Operation Punishment" on Yugoslavia as a result. The racist and savage Nazi and Nazi quisling brutality initiated a massive yet largely unacknowledged genocide of some one million Serbian Orthodox Christians, ethnic cleansing of another million of them from lands they had inhabited for centuries within Yugoslavia, and the forced conversion to Roman Catholicism of over 200,000 of them in the Nazi quisling "Independent State of Croatia" which encompassed Croatia, Bosnia, and a large chunk of Serbia all the way to Belgrade. For every Nazi soldier killed by the Serbs (either as Partisans or Chetniks), 100 Serbian civilians would be slaughtered and for every Nazi soldier wounded, 50 civilians would be murdered. An entire class of high school children in Kragujevac, Serbia was systematically used for target practice and murdered in cold blood as a result.

The post-WWII West, eager to please and court half-Croat/half-Slovene Josip Broz Tito (the post WWII communist dictator of Yugoslavia), the war criminals who committed genocide against the Serbs (Germans, Croatian Ustashe, Albanians, Bosnian Muslim Handzars, Hungarians) were largely never brought to justice including Kurt Waldheim, former UN Secretary General and President of Austria, reterrorizing the Serbs some 60 years later and creating a stain in the Balkans that just won't go away regardless of the mainstream corporate-controlled media's Goebbelesque efforts to whitewash and deny Balkan history. The fact that the Serbs dared to resist Hitler, delayed Operation Barbarossa by at least three weeks and tied up dozens of Nazi divisions in the Balkans that were needed on the Eastern front, and even succeeded in temporarily defeating the Nazis, forming the first liberated republic in Nazi-occupied Europe in Uzice, Serbia for over two months, demonstrating to the world that the Nazis were not as invincible as claimed (and thus giving hope to the Russians who ultimately proved this) have not been forgotten by post-WWII German leaders and form a nucleus of their hatred against all Serbs.

Thus, German leaders have largely not confronted the shameful Nazi past of their predecessors as they are repeating the exact same 19th Century program to chop up and destroy Serbia and leave the suddenly alienated Serbs to the mercy of their WWII Nazi-puppet enemies and live in ethnically and religiously "pure" fascist banana republics (such as Croatia and Kosovo) that treat them as fifth-class citizens. The problem is thus that history is repeating itself in Europe and the Russians, who suffered more casualties than any other people in history during WWII should be extremely concerned at this resurgence of anti-Serbian and anti-Orthodox Christian fascist and racist attitudes and actions coming from "civilized" German leaders and their quisling puppets in the Balkans.

As one who admires many aspects of German culture and who always harbors hope of Slavic-Germanic reconciliation, I am deeply saddened at the horrible anti-Serbian actions perpetrated by Germany in the recent Yugoslav civil wars which include illegally recognizing Croatia and Slovenia before issues of civilized treatment of minorities could be guaranteed, illegally invading and bombing the Serbs under the guise of NATO (just as in 1941), illegally recognizing and promoting the Islamic terrorist drug- organ- and sex slave- trafficking "safe haven" of Kosovo, and invading this Serbian territory (supposedly as "peacekeepers" but really to aid the Kosovo Liberation Army in terrorizing the local Serbian population there) effectively stealing the territory from the Serbs, and maintaining their fanatical anti-Serbian rhetoric. Germany had an opportunity to square with Her horrible past after the fall of the Berlin Wall and subsequent reunification courtesy of Russia.

Tragically for the world, German leaders have demonstrated that they weren't yet ready for the world stage with their immature, underhanded/surreptitious behavior against the Serbs and have yet to come to terms with their shameful past. I only hope that Russian leaders take notice of the fate that has befallen the Serbs and act to remind the Allied nations such as the US of the dangers of German fascism if left unchecked and the ridiculousness of squandering US taxpayer dollars supporting German national interests at the expense of one of the best allies that the United States ever had (and probably ever will have) in both World Wars: Serbia. After what Germany did to the Serbs in WWII, she never should have been allowed to interfere in the Balkans. The Serbs also need to be aware that they will never be accepted by Germany and thus the European Union except as defeated and converted untermensch slaves and should seek alliances based on historical and proven reality and not media-brainwashed fantasy. The European Union needs the ever independently-minded Serbs far more than the Serbs need the EU.

The mistreatment of the Serbs by Germany should never be forgotten by all those who seek true justice in this tainted world and should serve as a reminder to us all that freedom requires eternal vigilance. We also need to be aware that those who forget or ignore history will be doomed to repeat it.

Michael Pravica, Ph.D.

Associate Professor of Physics

University of Nevada, Las Vegas


17 posted on 09/02/2011 5:32:37 AM PDT by Ravnagora
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