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When Immigration is the Issue, Bachmann's the Only Real Conservative
Reaganite Republican ^ | August 18, 2011 | Reaganite Republican

Posted on 08/18/2011 5:11:21 AM PDT by Reaganite Republican

In grading the 2012 GOP field, none but her and  Cain even manage a passing grade... it's sad

This from an organization that promotes  common-sense immigration policy:

Michele Bachmann:   B -

"Rep. Bachmann earns an Excellent rating because her actions and statements have clearly opposed mass legalizations and have been recent."

Herman Cain:   C- 
Mitt Romney: D
Sarah Palin:  D
 Rick Perry:  D-
Jon Huntsman:  D- 
Newt Gingrich:  D-
Ron Paul:   F
Gary Johnson:   F
Rick Santorum:   F

Of course we all know were the other side stands: can't get any lower from the viewpoint of those patriots who demand our borders and laws be respected...

Barack Obama   F-

More/links/references/pics at Reaganite Republican, inc. a useful scorecard that spells it out with links to each candidates positions, statements, proposals, and platforms re. legal and illegal immigration.

Chalk up yet another issue Michele Bachmann owns... just sayin.



TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; Politics; Society
KEYWORDS: aliens; bachmann; conservative; illegalimmigration; immigrantlist; immigration; noscamnesty; pimpmyblog; republican
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To: 9YearLurker
Here in Texas, illegal immigration is a touchy subject. It creates an unusual political climate that people in other parts of the country can't fathom.

Truth is, you don't last long as a Pol here without having to walk a tightrope.

Perry hasn't done everything I think should be done, but, the Feds (as we've seen by their actions against other states) tend to stand in the way. Perry. for example, can't any longer order troops to the border without the Presidents approval.

Here's what he has done:

http://governor.state.tx.us/priorities/security/border_security/

21 posted on 08/18/2011 5:48:26 AM PDT by wolfcreek (Perry to Obama: Adios, MOFO!)
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To: wolfcreek

I know plenty of what he’s done. Along with the DREAM act and opining in Mexico that he longs for an open border and opposing the step AZ has taken and opposing a fence and on and on.

I don’t want him anywhere near federal policy on immigration—and that means nowhere near the presidency.


22 posted on 08/18/2011 6:03:06 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: Netizen

Or even better, they conveniently forget that a path to citizenship already exists. It’s called legal immigration. Illegal immigrants can feel free to go back to their home countries and apply for legal entry at any time.


23 posted on 08/18/2011 6:04:32 AM PDT by wrhssaxensemble (We need an electable conservative in 2012!)
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To: wrhssaxensemble

Good point! :)


24 posted on 08/18/2011 6:09:34 AM PDT by Netizen (Path to citizenship = Scamnesty. If you give it away, more will come. Who's pilfering your wallet?)
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To: Tennessee Nana; wolfcreek; Perdogg; 9YearLurker; Reaganite Republican

Im interesting in how you got those scores for Sarah Palin and Herman Cain..
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don’t know about Cain, but Palin herself has recently said we “can’t deport xx million” and said there should be some path to citizenship, although the rejected outright amnesty.

as for “Because she actually has executive experience running or living in a border state?”,
that is an argument akin to men can’t be against abortion,
because they can’t get pregnant.

i avidly respect you on other issues. but in this case, having a politician for OUTSIDE the border, who hadn’t been forced to make compromises for politicial reasons,
could be exactly what we need to fix this problem.

CA and TX spend 21 and 17 BILLION each year for illegals.
our children are being saddled with more and more debt.
this must stop NOW.

(and Palin is WRONG. Milton Friedman showed how to solve the problem easily. STOP giving benefits to people here illegally, and most will leave themselves, without “deporting”!!!)

Bachmann has other problems. And Perry has virtues, i’ll concede. (Pro gun!)
but be honest, Perry is VERY weak here.
He even opposes the AZ law, that itself does nothing more than existing Federal law. He’s lucky he got a “D”.


25 posted on 08/18/2011 6:12:16 AM PDT by Elendur (It is incumbent on every generation to pay its own debts as it goes. - Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Elendur

Yep, if we can round them up for deportation if they don’t follow certain steps/guidelines, then there is no reason why we can’t just round them up now for deportation for entering illegally. The feds need to stop playing games and get serious.

I can’t help but wonder if Alaska had been over run with illegals and on the brink of bankruptcy over it if Palin would have a stronger stance against illegal aliens.


26 posted on 08/18/2011 6:17:31 AM PDT by Netizen (Path to citizenship = Scamnesty. If you give it away, more will come. Who's pilfering your wallet?)
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To: Netizen

Pay out a $10,000.00 tax free bounty given to any US citizen who rounds up and brings in an illegal alien for deportation, and the 30 million illegals will all be gone in less than a year.

My gosh! Any young American who can bring in 10 illegals and you get $100,000.00 tax free. Bring in 100 and you are a millionaire.

Every illegal alien caught and brought in gets a permanent and total lifetime ban from our country.

(It would be much cheaper to pay $10,000.00 to get rid of an illegal alien than it would be to give them (and their kids) welfare, schooling, housing, food stamps, free health care, SSI, etc. )


27 posted on 08/18/2011 6:30:34 AM PDT by CGalen
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To: Elendur

I am NOT is favor of open borders, but I have constitutional issues with the AZ law and I do not think it will survive a SCOTUS review. You cannot pick and choose when the 10th Amendment is applicable. Being for or against the AZ law is not really a good test.


28 posted on 08/18/2011 6:30:57 AM PDT by Perdogg (0bama got 0sama?? Really, was 0sama on the golf course?)
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To: CGalen

The problem is that some of those illegals will kill you while you are trying to capture them. $10,000 per illegal is a lot of money for a broke government, but not really enough to lose your life over. needs tweaking


29 posted on 08/18/2011 6:34:40 AM PDT by Netizen (Path to citizenship = Scamnesty. If you give it away, more will come. Who's pilfering your wallet?)
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To: Perdogg

How possibly can the AZ law violate the 10th Amendment?


30 posted on 08/18/2011 6:43:09 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: 9YearLurker

That immigration efforcement is a role reserved for the Federal, not State govt. I guess one could argue if someone is breaking a federal law then state law enforcement would be obligated to “assist”, however, I don’t think SCOTUS, including Scalia, will buy that. Again, I am opposed to illegals and believe they should be deported, but I am not sure I am in favor of the AZ law.


31 posted on 08/18/2011 6:51:07 AM PDT by Perdogg (0bama got 0sama?? Really, was 0sama on the golf course?)
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To: Reaganite Republican

The NeXT american President WILL BE a woman....
And I’m not talking Rudy Giuliani either..


32 posted on 08/18/2011 6:52:55 AM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole...)
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To: Netizen

I don’t understand your point.

Those illegals will probably kill you any way if we don’t do anything if we do not deport them. They are all ticking time-bombs. Illegal aliens commit thousands of violent crimes.


33 posted on 08/18/2011 6:53:56 AM PDT by CGalen
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To: hosepipe

I am thinking it will be either Perry or Christie.


34 posted on 08/18/2011 6:54:44 AM PDT by Perdogg (0bama got 0sama?? Really, was 0sama on the golf course?)
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To: Perdogg

The 10th Amendment says nothing about areas that the states can’t choose to enforce laws—only areas that the federal government can’t choose to go.

The AZ law is a state law chosen by the state and in no way is it possible for such a law to violate the 10th Amendment.


35 posted on 08/18/2011 6:56:33 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: Perdogg

[ I am thinking it will be either Perry or Christie. ]

Nope.. Bachmann is supported by the Tpcaucus.. nationally..
So soon they forget Nov... 2010...

However, Perry is start to make very good sounds..
May be all rhetoric... BUT he does seem to cut thru the crap lately..

IF he keeps it up.. he can WIN...
BUT he may not be able to speak the truth for long.. it could stick in his throat..

Gee.. saying the fed is getting close to TREASON... is a winner..
He might even convert Me... even if hes lying thru his teeth..
If he threatens to KILL the EPA or HEW agencys he will attract followers.. en masse...


36 posted on 08/18/2011 7:08:58 AM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole...)
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To: 1_Inch_Group; 2sheep; 2Trievers; 3AngelaD; 3pools; 3rdcanyon; 4Freedom; 4ourprogeny; 7.62 x 51mm; ..

Ping!


37 posted on 08/18/2011 9:31:22 AM PDT by HiJinx (Old Cold Warrior)
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To: Reaganite Republican
"We must say to every Texas child learning in a Texas classroom, "We don’t care where you come from, but where you are going, and we are going to do everything we can to help you get there." And that vision must include the children of undocumented workers. That’s why Texas took the national lead in allowing such deserving young minds to attend a Texas college at a resident rate. Those young minds are a part of a new generation of leaders[;] the doors of higher education must be open to them. The message is simple: educacion es el futuro, y si se puede [education is the future, and yes, we can]."

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38 posted on 08/18/2011 9:35:41 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin)
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To: Reaganite Republican
Only true if you join Faux News is keeping Thad McCotter out the race.
I like Bachmann and have donated to her, but am fed up with conservatives ignoring a candidate becuase Fox wants to choose our president.
39 posted on 08/18/2011 10:44:41 AM PDT by rmlew ("Mosques are our barracks, minarets our bayonets, domes our helmets, the believers our soldiers.")
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To: mnehring

And what is conservative about importing 200 million people or their children, replacing our culture and electorate?


40 posted on 08/18/2011 10:47:13 AM PDT by rmlew ("Mosques are our barracks, minarets our bayonets, domes our helmets, the believers our soldiers.")
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