Skip to comments.When Immigration is the Issue, Bachmann's the Only Real Conservative
Posted on 08/18/2011 5:11:21 AM PDT by Reaganite Republican
This from an organization that promotes common-sense immigration policy:
More/links/references/pics at Reaganite Republican, inc. a useful scorecard that spells it out with links to each candidates positions, statements, proposals, and platforms re. legal and illegal immigration.
Chalk up yet another issue Michele Bachmann owns... just sayin.
Why dont ou post some of the high points for each one
Im interesting in how you got those scores for Sarah Palin and Herman Cain..
Because she actually has executive experience running or living in a border state?
I’m sure she’s a fine woman but, let’s not get carried away.
Maybe some of these candidates should take a page from President Eisenhower’s playbook. Of course that is, if they’re not part of the group(s) that profit from exploiting illegals.
30 million illegals in America are enough to fully populate more than 50 congressional districts. Add their numbers to legal democrats and consider how many more seats the democrats will own in a decade.
The fact is that the GOP is doomed to extinction within 20 years if something isn’t done right now.
Probably based on her path to citizenship stance. Scamnesty under any name is still scamnesty.
Actually, that's from Numbers USA which promotes the approach to not only eliminate illegal immigration but also eliminate all legal immigration as well. They are more of the extreme, hard line measurement- which is why you find them failing a lot of good Conservatives. While they have mellowed out a lot lately, and they are a good resource for the illegal immigration piece, it is important to understand their history. One of their founders was Algore's buddy whose purpose on ending immigration was environmental. You can still find papers on their website promoting eliminating all immigration and even promoting abortion as a population control method to 'save the environment. For example, this.. and this
This is an issue Bachmann has always been clear and has led on. Steve King is also good on this issue.
Hard to top her on this issue. If they beat around the bush and hawk that pathway baloney, it means they are weak on this issue.
It is about time people started to realize that Bachmann us the only real conservative
During the primary she is the only one so far! She deserves all the support we can giver at this time.
In 2009, Palin appeared on Greta’s show and said she agreed with McCain on the issue.
That would get you a D or worse.
Michele is the best by far on this issue.
Most of the others are in the dismal-to-pathetic range.
My observation is that pols in border states tend to be the absolute worst on illegal immigration. Too many votes and too much guilt.
Perry, for example, has a dozen big red flags waving on this issue.
Bachmann’s not my candidate, and the poster should post the direct link to this scorecard, not a link through his/her blog.
But I give Bachmann her due: she’s the only candidate so far who has spoken out consistently on illegal immigration and hasn’t played games in claiming amnesty isn’t amnesty or avoiding talk of amnesty by focusing just on ‘closing the border first’.
Sounds like you’ve got another dog in the fight, Wolf
I’m still looking at Perry and have not endorsed Bachmann yet, fwiw
“This is an issue Bachmann has always been clear and has led on. Steve King is also good on this issue.
Hard to top her on this issue”
Actually,she hasn't really given a recent opinion—in fact,being an Alaskan there wasn't much of a problem with it except for a few rascally Canucks sneaking in from the Canadian Yukon.
Need to hear what she says about it now.
What makes me laugh are these ‘path to citizenship’ people that say if the illegals don’t follow certain steps they will be deported. LOL Really? If, as they claim, that we can’t possibly round up illegals for deportation, how is it that they think they will miraculously locate them for deportation if they don’t follow those steps???
From last year
We wont complicate it any more. Lets keep it simple and lets say, No, if you are here illegally and you dont follow the steps that at some point through immigration reform were going to be able to provide, and that is to somehow allow you to work. If youre not going to do that, you will be deported you will be gone.
Truth is, you don't last long as a Pol here without having to walk a tightrope.
Perry hasn't done everything I think should be done, but, the Feds (as we've seen by their actions against other states) tend to stand in the way. Perry. for example, can't any longer order troops to the border without the Presidents approval.
Here's what he has done:
I know plenty of what he’s done. Along with the DREAM act and opining in Mexico that he longs for an open border and opposing the step AZ has taken and opposing a fence and on and on.
I don’t want him anywhere near federal policy on immigration—and that means nowhere near the presidency.
Or even better, they conveniently forget that a path to citizenship already exists. It’s called legal immigration. Illegal immigrants can feel free to go back to their home countries and apply for legal entry at any time.
Good point! :)
Im interesting in how you got those scores for Sarah Palin and Herman Cain..
don’t know about Cain, but Palin herself has recently said we “can’t deport xx million” and said there should be some path to citizenship, although the rejected outright amnesty.
as for “Because she actually has executive experience running or living in a border state?”,
that is an argument akin to men can’t be against abortion,
because they can’t get pregnant.
i avidly respect you on other issues. but in this case, having a politician for OUTSIDE the border, who hadn’t been forced to make compromises for politicial reasons,
could be exactly what we need to fix this problem.
CA and TX spend 21 and 17 BILLION each year for illegals.
our children are being saddled with more and more debt.
this must stop NOW.
(and Palin is WRONG. Milton Friedman showed how to solve the problem easily. STOP giving benefits to people here illegally, and most will leave themselves, without “deporting”!!!)
Bachmann has other problems. And Perry has virtues, i’ll concede. (Pro gun!)
but be honest, Perry is VERY weak here.
He even opposes the AZ law, that itself does nothing more than existing Federal law. He’s lucky he got a “D”.
Yep, if we can round them up for deportation if they don’t follow certain steps/guidelines, then there is no reason why we can’t just round them up now for deportation for entering illegally. The feds need to stop playing games and get serious.
I can’t help but wonder if Alaska had been over run with illegals and on the brink of bankruptcy over it if Palin would have a stronger stance against illegal aliens.
Pay out a $10,000.00 tax free bounty given to any US citizen who rounds up and brings in an illegal alien for deportation, and the 30 million illegals will all be gone in less than a year.
My gosh! Any young American who can bring in 10 illegals and you get $100,000.00 tax free. Bring in 100 and you are a millionaire.
Every illegal alien caught and brought in gets a permanent and total lifetime ban from our country.
(It would be much cheaper to pay $10,000.00 to get rid of an illegal alien than it would be to give them (and their kids) welfare, schooling, housing, food stamps, free health care, SSI, etc. )
I am NOT is favor of open borders, but I have constitutional issues with the AZ law and I do not think it will survive a SCOTUS review. You cannot pick and choose when the 10th Amendment is applicable. Being for or against the AZ law is not really a good test.
The problem is that some of those illegals will kill you while you are trying to capture them. $10,000 per illegal is a lot of money for a broke government, but not really enough to lose your life over. needs tweaking
How possibly can the AZ law violate the 10th Amendment?
That immigration efforcement is a role reserved for the Federal, not State govt. I guess one could argue if someone is breaking a federal law then state law enforcement would be obligated to “assist”, however, I don’t think SCOTUS, including Scalia, will buy that. Again, I am opposed to illegals and believe they should be deported, but I am not sure I am in favor of the AZ law.
The NeXT american President WILL BE a woman....
And I’m not talking Rudy Giuliani either..
I don’t understand your point.
Those illegals will probably kill you any way if we don’t do anything if we do not deport them. They are all ticking time-bombs. Illegal aliens commit thousands of violent crimes.
I am thinking it will be either Perry or Christie.
The 10th Amendment says nothing about areas that the states can’t choose to enforce laws—only areas that the federal government can’t choose to go.
The AZ law is a state law chosen by the state and in no way is it possible for such a law to violate the 10th Amendment.
[ I am thinking it will be either Perry or Christie. ]
Nope.. Bachmann is supported by the Tpcaucus.. nationally..
So soon they forget Nov... 2010...
However, Perry is start to make very good sounds..
May be all rhetoric... BUT he does seem to cut thru the crap lately..
IF he keeps it up.. he can WIN...
BUT he may not be able to speak the truth for long.. it could stick in his throat..
Gee.. saying the fed is getting close to TREASON... is a winner..
He might even convert Me... even if hes lying thru his teeth..
If he threatens to KILL the EPA or HEW agencys he will attract followers.. en masse...
And what is conservative about importing 200 million people or their children, replacing our culture and electorate?
That's just their attempt to appease those of us who want illegals deported. They think we're too stupid to notice what you pointed out. The fact is, whether illegals follow certain steps or not, they have broken the law and should be deported. It's like saying, "You can break the law as long as you say 'pretty please' and 'Mother, may I.'"
Go back and actually research those items. Most of it was taken out of context or are simply half-truths.
Perry just signed a Voter ID and a proof of citizenship to get a TX DL bill into law. He's gotten NO credit for that in this *over zealous* organization's report.
I’ve read plenty, including his full direct quotes.
Where are you from. Texans are often misunderstood. <);~)
I remember there was a SCC that ruled against the State of Minnesota involving the NG.
I just meant for the average person to try and perform essentially a ‘citizen’s arrest’, might be dangerous.
Its too bad that the feds refuse to do their jobs. The law has been broken. It seems to me that SCOTUS needs to address this. Is it a fed or state thing, because with each telling the other to do it, nothing is getting done. If its a fed thing then perhaps the state needs to sue the feds.
Actually, I feel the silence has been deafening surrounding this issue and latest “decree” from King Obama.
Shows how in bed perhaps ALL of them are with illegals and their enablers in this country.
Follow the money.
Because of this, she should make the issue more of a focus in her campaign.
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