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Facebook upgrade spurs fears of political bias
The Daily Caller ^ | May 24, 2011 | Neil Munro

Posted on 05/24/2011 8:50:51 AM PDT by opentalk

Facebook’s managers are deploying a new software upgrade that will dismantle myriad groups of like-minded political activists unless they get a special software-key from the company.

But Facebook manager are providing very limited information about which groups are being favored with the new key, prompting some activists to complain about possible political favoritism among Facebook managers, and many other activists to experiment with techniques and tricks to get the needed upgrade-key.

“Who is being given the upgrade?” asked Pamela Geller, the New York organizer of a 15,000-member group opposed to Islamist political groups. Without the special key, groups lose access to their members.

...“The Coalition to Save Marriage in New York” is a group of 1,163 social-conservatives seeking to preserve traditional marriage’s role as an institution for parents and child-rearing. The group has been very active this year trying to derail a gay-marriage push in the state assembly, but the group doesn’t have the upgrade, said the group’s administrator, Jason McGuire in Rochester, N.Y. “Nobody else that I know got one,” he said. “You do have to wonder if Facebook is leaning towards liberal positions, instead of being on open format,”.

The Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence got the upgrade for its 1,000-member group. “We changed over very smoothly,” said David Churchill, the network-manager at the D.C.-based gun-control group.

...The activists’ worries about Facebook’s possible political tilt are fortified by the political activities of its founders and employees. The company’s employees donated heavily to the Obama campaign in 2008, just as did the employees of Google and Microsoft. Facebook-founder Chris Hughes workers as head of the online-organizing campaign for the Obama campaign, while company chief Mark Zuckerberg has declared himself to be an Obama supporter.

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1 posted on 05/24/2011 8:50:55 AM PDT by opentalk
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To: opentalk

Bottom line is, it’s their site, they can do as they wish with it.


2 posted on 05/24/2011 8:54:14 AM PDT by brownsfan (I miss the America I grew up in.)
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To: opentalk

Given that the Facebook board and Obama’s cabinet/DNC is a a revolving door, it’s not really a mystery who will be favored.

Facebook is not hard to repeat. Someone else should just re-do it, without the liberal crap.


3 posted on 05/24/2011 8:54:49 AM PDT by TheThirdRuffian (Nothing to see here. Move along.)
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To: opentalk

The FR group has an alert on the top of the page it will be archived instead of upgraded.


4 posted on 05/24/2011 8:54:52 AM PDT by mnehring
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To: opentalk

President Barack Obama holds up a Facebook hoodie sweater that was given to him by Facebook CEO Mark Zuckerberg, right, during a town hall meeting

Gibbs was recently hired by Facebook.
Goldman Sachs recently invested $450 million in Facebook.

5 posted on 05/24/2011 8:58:10 AM PDT by opentalk
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To: mnehring

Interesting


6 posted on 05/24/2011 8:59:27 AM PDT by RnMomof7
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To: opentalk

baraq rewarding his friends.


7 posted on 05/24/2011 9:00:25 AM PDT by Texas resident (Hunkered Down)
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To: opentalk

If the Facebook / MSM / Obama complex is smart, you’d think they would gladly give the needed keys to any conservative group so they can monitor them. I mean, Facebook is like the CIA’s best invention. They get people to basically tell everything about themselves. No warrants, no searches, no eavesdropping. Why would they want to mess with such a good resource. But, one never knows when liberal orthodoxy trumps logic. They just might be that stupid and not give the groups the keys.


8 posted on 05/24/2011 9:07:38 AM PDT by 6SJ7 (atlasShruggedInd = TRUE)
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To: 6SJ7

Does Palin’s group have a key?

That will be the ultimate litmus test.


9 posted on 05/24/2011 9:12:46 AM PDT by ConservativeWarrior (In last year's nests, there are no birds this year.)
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To: TheThirdRuffian

Don’t have to re-do it, just move back to MySpace. It’s owned by the same parent company as Fox News...


10 posted on 05/24/2011 9:14:59 AM PDT by Floratina
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To: mnehring

“The FR group has an alert on the top of the page it will be archived instead of upgraded.”

I belong to a few FB groups that are Air Force related and they are all being archived. They are 554th RED HORSE groups.


11 posted on 05/24/2011 9:15:49 AM PDT by Hotmetal (Live your life to the fullest with no regrets.)
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To: Hotmetal; Big Giant Head; listenhillary

Hmmm, this is interesting.


12 posted on 05/24/2011 9:20:12 AM PDT by Marie Antoinette (Proud Clinton-hater since 1998.)
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To: 6SJ7
Control of the media and election fraud are big concerns for 2012.

This seems to be all about gearing up for the election. Maybe after they get Obama re-elected it will change.

White House Adds New Position to Deal with Unfavorable Online Media
this was announce today. It makes sense that fake facebook posts are part of this.

Which Liberal Billionaire Has Ties To Over 30 News Outlets? George Soros

13 posted on 05/24/2011 9:21:05 AM PDT by opentalk
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To: opentalk
company chief Mark Zuckerberg has declared himself to be an Obama supporter

shocked I tell ya.....are there any Jewish tech gazillionaires that are not libs?

Cuban..absolute nuts, the Google guys.., Ellison, Ballmer....

Michael Dell is an exception I think...maybe

14 posted on 05/24/2011 9:22:10 AM PDT by wardaddy (All the social libs who left last go around have crawled back...they can't help themselves)
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To: brownsfan

not really..if it’s public access then questions come up

try doing whatever you want if you own a business

like excluding blacks or making them eat in back

or not making handicapped ramps and johns etc

or hiring dicrimination

and so forth

“it’s their site they can do what they want” is not a reality at the size and public access facebook is

just watch...if they are discriminating on users they will be challenged

like Google, it’s so obvious they stack reference to suit themselves when they can...and folks bitch about it


15 posted on 05/24/2011 9:25:59 AM PDT by wardaddy (All the social libs who left last go around have crawled back...they can't help themselves)
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To: opentalk

Facebook could easily become the next MySpace by 2013


16 posted on 05/24/2011 9:34:21 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: wardaddy
like Google, it’s so obvious they stack reference to suit themselves when they can

now THERE'S something there's really a market for. A good, efficient Conservative (or even neutral) search engine.
17 posted on 05/24/2011 9:35:47 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: brownsfan

Bottom Line:

Zudkerberg has just given all his competitors a huge competitive advantage and they will take it. Watch for a big advertising blitz by My Space and others.

This is not good business if you are looking to dominate the social space. Basically they are giving it up to their competitors.

That 50 billion implied valuation will be laughable in one year. Try 3.5 to 5 billion.


18 posted on 05/24/2011 9:36:50 AM PDT by texmexis best
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To: brownsfan
This administrating seems (imo)to abuse the power of office to indirectly control the media. GE received tarp money and big government contracts, pays no taxes. They also influence NBC, MSNBC Progressive agenda.

Goldman Sachs received bailouts, some back door through AIG, have maintained many key positions in this administration, They recently invested $450 million in facebook, which now is aggressively changing policy before the election.

19 posted on 05/24/2011 9:37:49 AM PDT by opentalk
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To: opentalk

And here’s a question that you have never seen asked:

Have you every bought anything through Facebook ads?

Often?
How much?


20 posted on 05/24/2011 9:39:01 AM PDT by texmexis best
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To: mnehring

>>>>The FR group has an alert on the top of the page it will be archived instead of upgraded

Easily remedied by the original creator of the group. All they need to do is do the upgrade.


21 posted on 05/24/2011 9:41:12 AM PDT by Keith in Iowa (FR Class of 1998 | TV News is an oxymoron. | MSNBC = Moonbats Spouting Nothing But Crap.)
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To: GregB

Pinging Gregb. This could be fun, hehehe! Has the Sarah group been sent a key?


22 posted on 05/24/2011 9:42:34 AM PDT by prisoner6 (Right Wing Nuts bolt The Constitution together as the loose screws of the Left fall out!)
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To: GregB

Pinging Gregb. This could be fun, hehehe! Has the Sarah group been sent a key?


23 posted on 05/24/2011 9:42:46 AM PDT by prisoner6 (Right Wing Nuts bolt The Constitution together as the loose screws of the Left fall out!)
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To: mnehring
The FR group

There's a Freeper group on Facebook? Got the URL?

24 posted on 05/24/2011 9:46:08 AM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: opentalk

Looks like FB is trying to emulate the Dixie Chicks. What is it about liberals that make them think they can insult and alienate half of their clientele?


25 posted on 05/24/2011 9:57:47 AM PDT by Graneros ("Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe.")
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To: opentalk

The best way around this problem is multiple small local groups (20-100 members) that network with a larger state group. The larger state group is comprised of the leaders of the small groups. We are kind of like sleeper cells with a small footprint. Having a big group with a big leader is a distraction and a target.
We do something like this in WI.


26 posted on 05/24/2011 9:58:13 AM PDT by grumpygresh (Democrats delenda est)
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To: opentalk

We will find another place to go.


27 posted on 05/24/2011 10:02:54 AM PDT by Big Horn (Rebuild the GOP to a conservative party)
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To: Windflier

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28 posted on 05/24/2011 10:14:20 AM PDT by LibertyGrrrl ("First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win." Mahatma Gandhi)
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To: Keith in Iowa

I am it. It doesn’t have that option.


29 posted on 05/24/2011 10:18:56 AM PDT by mnehring
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To: Windflier

It is the first one in #28. The one with a little over a thousand members. There are several other small ones too.


30 posted on 05/24/2011 10:20:30 AM PDT by mnehring
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To: TheThirdRuffian

MySpace..............


31 posted on 05/24/2011 10:20:57 AM PDT by Red Badger (Jesus said there is no marriage in Heaven. That's why they call it Heaven............)
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To: mnehring

Then start a new group.


32 posted on 05/24/2011 10:24:04 AM PDT by Keith in Iowa (FR Class of 1998 | TV News is an oxymoron. | MSNBC = Moonbats Spouting Nothing But Crap.)
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To: opentalk
also related

US Gov. Software Creates 'Fake People' on Social Networks to Promote Propaganda

The US government is offering private intelligence companies contracts to create software to manage "fake people" on social media sites and create the illusion of consensus on controversial issues. The contract calls for the development of "Persona Management Software" which would help the user create and manage a variety of distinct fake profiles online. The job listing was discussed in recently leaked emails from the private security firm HBGary after an attack by internet activist last week.

33 posted on 05/24/2011 10:25:11 AM PDT by opentalk
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To: opentalk

Libs control the media. :(


34 posted on 05/24/2011 10:25:11 AM PDT by Tzimisce (Never forget that the American Revolution began when the British tried to disarm the colonists.)
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To: Buckeye McFrog

Or even the next Friendster! LOL.


35 posted on 05/24/2011 10:25:59 AM PDT by 2harddrive
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To: Keith in Iowa
>>>>The FR group has an alert on the top of the page it will be archived instead of upgraded

Easily remedied by the original creator of the group. All they need to do is do the upgrade.

You may have missed this point - Facebook is determining who gets to upgrade and who doesn't. If Facebook decides not to allow a group to upgrade, they can't.

36 posted on 05/24/2011 10:26:39 AM PDT by Bob
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To: Bob

Then start another group.


37 posted on 05/24/2011 10:27:51 AM PDT by Keith in Iowa (FR Class of 1998 | TV News is an oxymoron. | MSNBC = Moonbats Spouting Nothing But Crap.)
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To: LibertyGrrrl

Thanks for the links.


38 posted on 05/24/2011 10:28:25 AM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: texmexis best
Wealth Website Redistribution?

I am actually surprised some conservative internet geek (like the opposite of Zuckerberg) hasn't come up with a different kind of FaceBook for conservatives. Oh wait...here's one: www.freedomtorch.com
39 posted on 05/24/2011 10:34:30 AM PDT by Lucky9teen (Jobs? Nope! Economy? Nope! Disarm the U.S? Yep! Impeach the treasonous Marxist Muslim usurper bast)
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To: opentalk

So now we find out that the Brady Campaign has 1,000 members! Wow! 1,000?

Oh.My.God.1,000?

I have more than that on my personal page. Lots more.


40 posted on 05/24/2011 10:34:33 AM PDT by texmexis best
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To: LibertyGrrrl
from article

The new software-upgrade will automatically archive all groups. Once archived, each group’s past activity will be still be visible on Facebook, but the groups’ administrators will lose access to their lists of group members.

That means the administrators lose contact with everyone in their groups, and will be forced to recruit all those members again – unless Facebook provides them with the special upgrade software.

41 posted on 05/24/2011 10:37:21 AM PDT by opentalk
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To: Keith in Iowa

Just let it transition over and we’ll rejoin.


42 posted on 05/24/2011 10:37:58 AM PDT by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: prisoner6
This is interesting, because Facebook is changing the group rules just as Obama has created an online media czar, to counter negative discussions of Obama.

This will now help them divide the groups into who to targeted. The upgrades are left alone, the archives need to be infiltrated and re-educated.

43 posted on 05/24/2011 10:56:00 AM PDT by opentalk
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To: prisoner6

I will check it now..


44 posted on 05/24/2011 11:04:34 AM PDT by GregB (Mr Singleton I presume?)
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To: opentalk

Facebook’s EULA is such that I will never use it.


45 posted on 05/24/2011 11:10:28 AM PDT by RingerSIX (My wife and I took an AIDS vaccine that they offer down at our Church.)
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To: brownsfan

Bottom line is that Obongo has been courting Mark. He already got You Tube in 2008, he needed Facebook. Welcome to the new USS of A.


46 posted on 05/24/2011 11:44:44 AM PDT by mojitojoe ( 1400 years of existence & Islam has 2 main accomplishments, psychotic violence and goat curry)
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To: opentalk

EXACTLY! Anyone that has a facebook account is an idiot.


47 posted on 05/24/2011 11:45:50 AM PDT by mojitojoe ( 1400 years of existence & Islam has 2 main accomplishments, psychotic violence and goat curry)
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To: 6SJ7

Facebook is like the CIA’s best invention. They get people to basically tell everything about themselves.
_______________
Fools do that and I do mean COMPLETE FOOLS that need to get a life. A REAL life.


48 posted on 05/24/2011 11:47:35 AM PDT by mojitojoe ( 1400 years of existence & Islam has 2 main accomplishments, psychotic violence and goat curry)
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To: opentalk

This administrating seems (imo)to abuse the power of office to indirectly control the media.

________________

Understatement of the year


49 posted on 05/24/2011 11:49:30 AM PDT by mojitojoe ( 1400 years of existence & Islam has 2 main accomplishments, psychotic violence and goat curry)
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To: Tzimisce
Libs control the media. :(

That's a problem, but we are certainly not powerless to change it.

50 posted on 05/24/2011 11:54:05 AM PDT by nascarnation
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