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GRAPE ARBOR
May 10, 2011 | Me

Posted on 05/10/2011 11:20:39 AM PDT by SMARTY

I want to plant a grape arbor. What is the best grape tu plant?


TOPICS: Agriculture; Food; Gardening; Hobbies; Outdoors
KEYWORDS: arbor; grape; grapes
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1 posted on 05/10/2011 11:20:40 AM PDT by SMARTY
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To: SMARTY

I’d plant grape seeds.


2 posted on 05/10/2011 11:21:30 AM PDT by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: SMARTY
Where do you live?

What type of grapes do you want? Eating grapes or wine grapes?

3 posted on 05/10/2011 11:23:12 AM PDT by KarlInOhio (Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice! Tea Party extremism is a badge of honor.)
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To: SMARTY

Have you looked at seed catalogs? Do you want purple or white grapes? Are these for eating or just a foliage planting? What is your planting zone? So many unknowns to your question.


4 posted on 05/10/2011 11:23:32 AM PDT by BipolarBob (The Obama COLB was just a joke folks. The real one is in Kenya.)
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To: SMARTY

Go to the nearest commercial farm supply company and buy both red and green seedless grape seeds.

Make sure you ask for seedless grapes only.


5 posted on 05/10/2011 11:24:58 AM PDT by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon freedom, it is essential to examine principles,)
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To: SMARTY

Talk with your local USDA agent. He will have a good idea and will put you in touch with the local wine grape grower’s group.

A fun bunch of people.


6 posted on 05/10/2011 11:25:17 AM PDT by texmexis best
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To: KarlInOhio

I am in NE Ohio.

I want grapes mostly because the big dark leaves provide the best shade. If the grapes are yummy, that’s OK too.

I don’t know anything about growing grapes


7 posted on 05/10/2011 11:25:47 AM PDT by SMARTY (Conforming to non-conformity is conforming just the same.)
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To: SMARTY

You might want to try a Concord variety.


8 posted on 05/10/2011 11:31:19 AM PDT by Argus
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To: SMARTY

How about the grapes of wrath?


9 posted on 05/10/2011 11:32:05 AM PDT by DaxtonBrown (HARRY: Money Mob & Influence (See my Expose on Reid on amazon.com written by me!))
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To: SMARTY

Where do you live? I know muscadines and scuppernongs do great down South. They have thicker skins so the bugs and critters don’t mess with them as much (A family friend has some and they are doing great.) The thinner skinned grapes that you often get at the grocery store may or may not do well, depending on where you live. Being more delicate and all, the bugs and critters really like to just eat them up. At least that’s what they did to ours. I want to plant muscadines and scuppernongs this year. I think they may do better for the area where I live (VA).


10 posted on 05/10/2011 11:32:08 AM PDT by DeoVindiceSicSemperTyrannis (Want to make $$$? It's easy! Use FR as a platform to pimp your blog for hits!!!)
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To: SMARTY

What is the best grape tu plant?

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Ask your neighborhood birds what they like best. After all - they will be eating them.


11 posted on 05/10/2011 11:32:55 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd (I'm a Birther - And a Deather)
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To: DaxtonBrown

Lololol. Bad.


12 posted on 05/10/2011 11:33:06 AM PDT by DeoVindiceSicSemperTyrannis (Want to make $$$? It's easy! Use FR as a platform to pimp your blog for hits!!!)
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To: DeoVindiceSicSemperTyrannis

Well, I was thinking of that and I don’t want bugs. Other crawling vine type foliage would be OK but flowers would draw bees too.

The grape vines just look way better than anything else.


13 posted on 05/10/2011 11:34:51 AM PDT by SMARTY (Conforming to non-conformity is conforming just the same.)
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To: SMARTY

Grape any kin to Old Brush??


14 posted on 05/10/2011 11:35:40 AM PDT by WKB (We have Bachmann all we need to do is "Turner" on the "Over Drive")
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To: SMARTY
Grape vines are pretty. I remember seeing a nice house one time that had a huge grape arbour on the side of the house. It provided awesome shade, and you could just reach up and grab the grapes right above you if you so desired.

It seems your vines are more for aesthetic or landscaping purposes. Do you have a preference as to what color grapes you want? Concordes and certain Muscadines are a nice dark purple (and have thick skins). Scuppernongs are greenish bronze (They also have thick skins. They are a variety of muscadine). The above all taste great too. I am not sure how well they would do in Ohio, you would have to look it up. Those are just the types of vines I am most familiar with. :-)

15 posted on 05/10/2011 11:44:06 AM PDT by DeoVindiceSicSemperTyrannis (Want to make $$$? It's easy! Use FR as a platform to pimp your blog for hits!!!)
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To: SMARTY

Hops.


16 posted on 05/10/2011 11:45:31 AM PDT by Disambiguator
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To: SMARTY
You are not living up to your name. Your question should be: I live in xxxxx in the state of xxxx. I would like to grow eating grapes. What would you suggest?

My suggestion, if you want wine grapes is to find out what grapes are being raised by the wineries in your area.

17 posted on 05/10/2011 11:48:46 AM PDT by fish hawk (Obama = "low-level socialist organizer". Allen West)
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To: Disambiguator

Amen.


18 posted on 05/10/2011 11:49:28 AM PDT by jstaff
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To: DeoVindiceSicSemperTyrannis

We’re in Florida and have a grape arbor. Muscadines and scuppernongs are about all that’ll grow down here. We’ve found not a lot of folks like them, I think they’re an “acquired” taste. Fortunately, we have that acquired taste :)


19 posted on 05/10/2011 11:49:28 AM PDT by dawn53
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To: DeoVindiceSicSemperTyrannis
When I was little, I went to my aunt's house and she had a beautiful grape arbor. It could be 110 degrees in the shade but way cool and shady under the arbor.
20 posted on 05/10/2011 11:51:15 AM PDT by SMARTY (Conforming to non-conformity is conforming just the same.)
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To: DeoVindiceSicSemperTyrannis
When I was little, I went to my aunt's house and she had a beautiful grape arbor. It could be 110 degrees in the shade but way cool and shady under the arbor.
21 posted on 05/10/2011 11:51:15 AM PDT by SMARTY (Conforming to non-conformity is conforming just the same.)
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To: SMARTY

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22 posted on 05/10/2011 11:52:12 AM PDT by Tijeras_Slim
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To: SMARTY
The dark purple kind of muscadines:

Unripe muscadines:

Muscadines in a bowl (the greenish ones are the scuppernong variety of muscadine)

Concord grapes (these often do better in northern climes and might work out great for your area):

Concords are the type of grapes used in making grape jelly and grape candies and etc. The "grape" flavor comes from concord grapes. They are so yummy.

23 posted on 05/10/2011 11:53:18 AM PDT by DeoVindiceSicSemperTyrannis (Want to make $$$? It's easy! Use FR as a platform to pimp your blog for hits!!!)
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To: dawn53
acquired taste

Perhaps so. At any rate I love sucking the insides out of them (some people eat the skins, but not me). I especially love the more tangy muscadines. The super sweet scuppernongs that my friend has are just too sweet for me.

24 posted on 05/10/2011 11:57:42 AM PDT by DeoVindiceSicSemperTyrannis (Want to make $$$? It's easy! Use FR as a platform to pimp your blog for hits!!!)
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25 posted on 05/10/2011 12:00:58 PM PDT by TheOldLady
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We have a 60 year old bullis vine (dark, fruited muscadine) that makes wonderful jams and even better wine. Once established, they require no watering even in hot, humid South Alabama and it grows like a weed.


26 posted on 05/10/2011 12:02:38 PM PDT by Quilla
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I’m overrun with wild grapes. Guess I should expect that living along the Raisin river.


27 posted on 05/10/2011 12:05:24 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: DeoVindiceSicSemperTyrannis

Concords are seedless, right?


28 posted on 05/10/2011 12:08:16 PM PDT by SMARTY (Conforming to non-conformity is conforming just the same.)
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To: GladesGuru

How can you buy grape seeds for seedless grapes? Or are you funnin’?


29 posted on 05/10/2011 12:09:26 PM PDT by Inwoodian
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To: SMARTY

Talk to your County Agricultural Extension Agent (or equivalent).


30 posted on 05/10/2011 12:11:07 PM PDT by RedWhiteBlue
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Amy Grant
Grape, Grape Joy Lyrics

I am a small and lonely grape,
Clutching to the vine,
Waiting for the day when I’ll become my Savior’s wine!

Oh, wouldn’t French cuisine just yearn it,
I’ve eternity to ferment,
But knowing me I’d end up ripple
In a cellar of cheblis.

Are you a small and lonely grape
Clutching to the vine,
Waiting for the day when you’ll become your Savior’s wine?

Don’t give up hope ye heavy laden,
You don’t want to be a raisin;
There’s a grape grape joy in Jesus,
In the vineyard of the Lord.


31 posted on 05/10/2011 12:14:36 PM PDT by DannyTN
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To: SMARTY
No, they do have seeds. But that's ok. You just spit them out. The taste of the flesh is awesome though.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Concord_grapes

32 posted on 05/10/2011 12:18:16 PM PDT by DeoVindiceSicSemperTyrannis (Want to make $$$? It's easy! Use FR as a platform to pimp your blog for hits!!!)
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To: cripplecreek

Lucky you. What kind? What color? Are they the thick skinned kind? Do they taste good?


33 posted on 05/10/2011 12:21:24 PM PDT by DeoVindiceSicSemperTyrannis (Want to make $$$? It's easy! Use FR as a platform to pimp your blog for hits!!!)
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To: DeoVindiceSicSemperTyrannis

Very sour tiny wild grapes but I love the vines if they grow where I want them.


34 posted on 05/10/2011 12:23:20 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: Inwoodian

Would a biologist, not mention a real, live, walkin’ talkin GURU do such a thing?

How could such a thought enter your mind?

;-)

On a slightly different tack, have you ever sent an assistant into a machine shop supply store to order a Three Pronged Blivet? More specifically, a metric one, and made from 2024T3 stainless steel.

;-)


35 posted on 05/10/2011 12:25:10 PM PDT by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon freedom, it is essential to examine principles,)
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To: cripplecreek
Ooo. I like sour things. But are they bitter too?

Do the vines provide nice shade?

36 posted on 05/10/2011 12:28:31 PM PDT by DeoVindiceSicSemperTyrannis (Want to make $$$? It's easy! Use FR as a platform to pimp your blog for hits!!!)
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To: GladesGuru
Three Pronged Blivet

Lol. Those blivets! heh heh.


37 posted on 05/10/2011 12:32:00 PM PDT by DeoVindiceSicSemperTyrannis (Want to make $$$? It's easy! Use FR as a platform to pimp your blog for hits!!!)
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To: SMARTY

Too bad you live too far north for a nice crop of Kudzu.


38 posted on 05/10/2011 12:37:27 PM PDT by Rebelbase
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To: DeoVindiceSicSemperTyrannis

I wouldn’t say the wild ones are bitter. Just sour and they do provide nice shade.


39 posted on 05/10/2011 12:41:38 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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Too bad you’re not in the South. I’d recommend my personal favorite, muscadine.


40 posted on 05/10/2011 12:43:27 PM PDT by TennesseeGirl
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To: dawn53

If you live in the south plant Spanish Black grapes. They make a good Cab or Merlot.


41 posted on 05/10/2011 12:47:02 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: SMARTY

Try planting some hops.


42 posted on 05/10/2011 12:50:55 PM PDT by stuartcr
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To: cripplecreek

Man, I would eat them if I could then. Are they normal sized, or small (compared to regular grapes)?


43 posted on 05/10/2011 12:54:31 PM PDT by DeoVindiceSicSemperTyrannis (Want to make $$$? It's easy! Use FR as a platform to pimp your blog for hits!!!)
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To: TennesseeGirl
Muscadines are awesome. Yum yum.


44 posted on 05/10/2011 1:00:49 PM PDT by DeoVindiceSicSemperTyrannis (Want to make $$$? It's easy! Use FR as a platform to pimp your blog for hits!!!)
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To: DeoVindiceSicSemperTyrannis

Maybe pea sized.


45 posted on 05/10/2011 1:02:16 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: cripplecreek

Ooo. Those are small.


46 posted on 05/10/2011 1:10:14 PM PDT by DeoVindiceSicSemperTyrannis (Want to make $$$? It's easy! Use FR as a platform to pimp your blog for hits!!!)
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To: DeoVindiceSicSemperTyrannis

In Atlanta here. Just surfing FR and came across this - is it too late to start an arbor in Atlanta? Somehow, this just hit my WANT list immediately.


47 posted on 05/10/2011 1:15:47 PM PDT by melissa_in_ga (Mr. President: Game On!)
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To: Rebelbase

No thank you!


48 posted on 05/10/2011 1:16:43 PM PDT by SMARTY (Conforming to non-conformity is conforming just the same.)
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My parents had a Concord Grape Arbor when us kids were growing up - great jellies & jams, excellent off the vine snacking too.

You’ll get a bunch of bees, especially in the fall if you don’t get the grapes all cut off. If you go Concord Grape, get ready to make a bunch of jams or give grapes away to friends.

(I used to call it the Grape Barber - that’s what I thought everyone was saying....:)


49 posted on 05/10/2011 1:19:15 PM PDT by libertarian27 (Ingsoc: Department of Life, Department of Liberty, Department of Happiness)
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My great aunt in central OH had Concord grapes growing in an arbor just outside of her back door. They were 100 years old perhaps and grew very well. We made wine and grape jelly for many many years.

I would suggest Concord as it would be the best for your climate and the bonus is that it will provide a yearly crop of grapes in addition beautiful cover and cool shade for years to come.

They require little maintenance after they get established.


50 posted on 05/10/2011 1:23:45 PM PDT by Only1choice____Freedom (FDR had the New Deal. President 0bama has the Raw Deal.)
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