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OCON DOCS: Hawaii Ballot Chief...(Obama disqualification from the Hawaiian ballot 2008)
thedailypen ^ | 4/12/11 | Pen Johannson

Posted on 04/12/2011 11:12:10 AM PDT by American Dream 246

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To: arrogantsob

“The states have NOTHING to do with anything about this matter once he was allowed on the ballots.”

Absolutely false. The states certify the votes within their specific state.


141 posted on 04/12/2011 8:21:29 PM PDT by crz
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To: crz

That is all past. They can’t decertify them. It is entirely in the hands of the Congress as per the constitution. It doesn’t and cannot “go back to the states”.
Nor does the 25th amendment designed to handle incapacity (sickness or injury) while in office.


142 posted on 04/12/2011 8:26:27 PM PDT by arrogantsob
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To: arrogantsob

On the other hand since you seem to be for federal power at whatever the cost to our freedom.
Glad you have so much faith in the democrats convicting in an impeachment trial. They did it during Clinton, then they voted for Obamacare and on and on. So I guess you might be in for a real shock when they they deem him not guilty. AND THEY WILL! LOL!

Have a nice day.


143 posted on 04/12/2011 8:35:14 PM PDT by crz
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To: Danae

Wow, very interesting. Pelosi had to do the proverbial damage control.


144 posted on 04/12/2011 8:37:26 PM PDT by Cyropaedia ("Virtue cannot separate itself from reality without becoming a principal of evil...".)
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To: crz

Apparently you believe in concocting imaginary schemes to remove a president no matter what the constitution clearly says. And my showing that that is exactly what it is somehow makes me an advocate of too much federal power.

These conclusions are obviously outside any logical methods I am familiar with. So I will leave you with your imaginary constitution while I stick with the real one.

It is certainly possible that the Party of Treason will not convict Urkel all I was saying was that it would not be a free lunch and that it would not be dismissed as easily as the Clinton debacle. But the fact remains impeachment and conviction is the ONLY constitutional method of removing a president. If the Senate would not convict I think that would give us a veto proof Senate and House.


145 posted on 04/12/2011 8:57:00 PM PDT by arrogantsob
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To: Triple

That argument won’t go anywhere. Laws he signed will not be overturned automatically nor appointments canceled. There is nothing in the Constitution which makes or supports such a claim popular though it is.


146 posted on 04/12/2011 9:05:02 PM PDT by arrogantsob
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To: Emperor Palpatine; Nachum; American Dream 246

Ironic that you posted that. Trace that actor’s mom and her circle of friends. They left NYC to go to SF and then eventually to Hawaii staying one step ahead of Tailgunner Joe. Trace them, the Dunhams, the school all their kids went to, and Buzz’s restaurant where they had their meetings. Card carrying communists all. I can say no more.


147 posted on 04/12/2011 10:27:42 PM PDT by MattinNJ (Will a hero rise in 2012?)
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To: Joe Marine 76

See my post 147. I wish I could say more.


148 posted on 04/12/2011 10:32:02 PM PDT by MattinNJ (Will a hero rise in 2012?)
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To: curiosity

I really don’t have time to read the whole thing...

yeah we know....in a nutshell obie is going down..


149 posted on 04/12/2011 10:41:45 PM PDT by rolling_stone ( *this makes Watergate look like a kiddie pool*)
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To: GregNH

How ironic. Bush2(I think he is the one you referred to) made it more likely for an Obama election. Of course Bush1 helped a bit by endosing the new world order.


150 posted on 04/12/2011 11:19:12 PM PDT by noinfringers2
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To: GregNH

How ironic. Bush2(I think he is the one you referred to) made it more likely for an Obama election. Of course Bush1 helped a bit by endosing the new world order.


151 posted on 04/12/2011 11:19:33 PM PDT by noinfringers2
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To: Danae

I do not believe that is true. When that was written we voted for VP separately. We voted for a ticket, so if the top of the ticket goes so goes the ticket. At least I would argue that.


152 posted on 04/13/2011 4:58:41 AM PDT by GregNH (Re-Elect "No Body")
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To: arrogantsob

Don’t you put words in my mouth, SOB, I never wrote anything about laws being overturned.


153 posted on 04/13/2011 5:25:15 AM PDT by Triple (Socialism denies people the right to the fruits of their labor, and is as abhorrent as slavery)
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To: BuckeyeTexan

Thanx for those. I still believe the one for Ohomo for HI is forged and I really wonder why.

On another note. At one time, it has been changed and scrubbed, Hawaii had a website for land grants I think. Anyway the language was clear as to what documentation that was required, long form BC. I thought I came across an image the other day but can’t find it. If you or anyone else can help it would be great!


154 posted on 04/13/2011 6:10:14 AM PDT by GregNH (Re-Elect "No Body")
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To: GregNH; butterdezillion

Forged? As in not really signed and notarized, photoshopped? Or falsely signed and fraudulently submitted?

Butterdezillion probably has documentation about the Homelands requirements on the website.


155 posted on 04/13/2011 6:50:02 AM PDT by BuckeyeTexan (There are those that break and bend. I'm the other kind. *4192*)
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To: GregNH

We vote for the ticket, but the electoral college does not. Congress also handles them separately.


156 posted on 04/13/2011 7:06:22 AM PDT by Danae (Anailnathrach ortha bhais beatha do cheal deanaimha)
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To: MattinNJ

There was a time when I would have scoffed at the notion that we are infested with a communist 5th column. No more.


157 posted on 04/13/2011 8:28:46 AM PDT by Nachum (The complete Obama list at www.nachumlist.com)
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To: arrogantsob
"The Supreme Court has no authority to remove a President from office."

No, but they do retain the authority to rule on whether or not a person is Constitutionally eligible to hold the office in the first place. In other words, the SCOTUS cannot say "Obama is no longer President," but they can say, "Obama never was President."

158 posted on 04/13/2011 8:38:01 AM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: Cyropaedia

Yep. At that point, Pelosi’s only options were to cover his arse, or take him off the ticket. Right at that point, it WOULD have caused riots I think. She had little choice, but that does not excuse breaking the law or the constitution.

She is just as responsible for Obama’s usurpation as Obama is.

She should be in chains along with her pet potus.


159 posted on 04/13/2011 8:42:36 AM PDT by Danae (Anailnathrach ortha bhais beatha do cheal deanaimha)
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To: GregNH

it was a long form bc they changed that after HDOH first tried their no long forms available crap..

http://hawaii.gov/dhhl/applicants/appforms/applyhhl


160 posted on 04/13/2011 8:49:58 AM PDT by rolling_stone ( *this makes Watergate look like a kiddie pool*)
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