Posted on 02/25/2011 9:53:11 AM PST by chatter4
Besides all the things you listed, everyone involved in the deceit in any way (and it would involve more than a few) would have to keep their mouths shut forever. We all know that does not happen in this day and age of instant riches for blabbing to the scandal rags.
Well, next time there's an election in Hawaii, and when she comes out to vote, we should ask her once and for all.
What I don’t ‘get’ is .. if Abercrombie’s people couldn’t find more than some notation, what is it Dr. Fukino put out the statement about having seen ?
My personal theory, which I can’t prove, is that Obama was born in HI under another name, and either from a father other than Obama Sr. or ‘father unknown’. This info would, however, be known only to a few, as the original BC would have been sealed upon Obama’s adoption by Soetoro.
Later, following the divorce, Obama may have been adopted by his grandparents, or otherwise had the Soetoro adoption BC altered—at which time it too would have been sealed, leaving only the most recent. That one almost certainly does not list Obama by his current name—and that is the problem [for Obama, his supporters, and anybody else who knows what’s good for them, anyway].
The bottom line being, Fukino and everybody else can confirm Barry was born in HI, but they have so far refused to let the embarrassing cat re: his legal name and true father out of the bag.
That’s my theory, anyway. Time will tell if it is right or not.
I don’t know the name of the Doctor who delivered me. My parents are not around, and I don’t care. I guess I could find it somewhere.
Not trying to be difficult, just sayin’.
Wanna buy a kidney? I know someone who's selling one.
On one of these many threads there was talk of a woman in HI whose father supposedly delivered the Messiah. He of course is conveniently dead. I *think* the name was West.
(Courtesty pings in case you have the actual info at hand.)
The situation was something like this.
A woman out of nowhere claimed on or around Nov. 20 2008 (at least that’s when the article came out) that she had met a friend in HI, as a young woman or teenager, whose father was a doctor and claimed, while she visited in Aug. 1961, that he had delivered a baby to a girl named “Stanley” and he remembered the baby’s name, of course the current president’s supposed name.
This woman remembered all kinds of details, the doc wrote the name on a napkin and so on. Remembered name of doc, etc.
Woman also happened to have been 0-caligula’s teacher, supposedly, at Punahou and of course voted Dem as well.
Very quickly stalwart freepers did research and found out the doctor was conveniently deceased not long before, BUT had retired from delivering babies a few years before 1961.
Story was planted lying propaganda.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2170432/posts
“I may be the only person left who specifically remembers his birth. His parents are gone, his grandmother is gone, the obstetrician who delivered him is gone,” said Nelson, referring to Dr. Rodney T. West, who died in February at the age of 98. Here’s the story: Nelson was having dinner at the Outrigger Canoe Club on Waikiki Beach with Dr. West, the father of her college friend, Jo-Anne. Making conversation, Nelson turned to Dr. West and said: “‘So, tell me something interesting that happened this week,’” she recalls.
His response: “Well, today, Stanley had a baby. Now that’s something to write home about.”
The new mother was Stanley (later referred to by her middle name of Ann) Dunham, and the baby was Barack Hussein Obama.
“I penned the name on a napkin, and I did write home about it,” said Nelson, knowing that her father, Stanley A. Czurles, director of the Art Education Department at Buffalo State College, would be interested in the “Stanley” connection.
She also remembers Dr. West mentioning that the baby’s father was the first black student at the University of Hawaii and how taken he was by the baby’s name.
“I remember Dr. West saying ‘Barack Hussein Obama, now that’s a musical name,’” said Nelson, who grew up in Kenmore and went to Hawaii in 1959 to be in Jo-Anne’s wedding party. When Nelson was offered a job as a newspaper reporter and photographer......
http://www.buffalostate.edu/bulletin/acrosscampus.xml?aid=2134&bid=220
Stanley A. Czurles, the late SUNY Distinguished Service Professor of art education, who founded Buffalo State’s art education program when he began his career at the college in 1931. The program has since become one of the largest and most respected in the country; alumni teach in all 50 states and around the world. The program has also evolved into the college’s five visual arts programs: art conservation, art education, design, fine arts, and interior design...
Now...just why Stanley A. Czurles, the late SUNY Distinguished Service Professor of art education...might be interested in who had a baby, is hard to say...
BUT DR WEST HAD RETIRED FROM DELIVERING BABIES FIVE YEARS BEFORE THIS SO CALLED CONVERSATION...iirc
after practicing on the Big Island of Hawaii for a year, he returned to Honolulu and joined the Obstetrics and Gynecological department of the Straub Clinic. In December of l956, after delivering at least 5,OOO babies - and other things, he retired from the practice of medicine.
Thank you. I had the vaguest of recollection about that story. The woman seems to have needed attention, a touch with history, and some sort of delusions of grandeur.
Thank you very much, Fred Nerks. I swear, you Know All.
EDINVA - more than that, I am sure. Collusion between her (a former Punahou teacher and ardent Dem), the media, the DNC and 0-caligula peeps.
My money is on Lucas Daniel Smith’s procured copy of Obama’s Kenyan birth certificate.
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I’ll take some of that action!!
As a state licensed professional who deals with legal Documents everyday, the LDS CPGH BC appears a helluva lot more legit than the Daily KOS COLB! The associated document (Kenyan COLB) strengthens the case considerably. Why won’t Congress, all of whom have copies of these docs not at least investigate? I mean, aside from their obvious cowardice & corruption.
I would REALLY like to see another BC from the CPGH issued the day before (or after) for comparison purposes. Don’t know of any, do you?
That said, I believe it is just additional documentation that supports the fact that his father was a British subject and that alone is sufficient to oust Obooboo – with or without a BC.
That’s why we’ll never see it!
No way mundane records like that would be extant almost 50 years later.
I agree with your idea. I recall someone claimed to be born in the same hospital within a month of BO. Anyone have a link or a recollection of that story. WND should be able to find this information. Not everyone born about 50 years ago at CPGH is dead.
If Barry had a birth certificate he would have shown it already. He knew from the beginning he was not eligible to run for President and he has committed fraud to get elected. Now he is spending as much as it takes to continue the coverup.
I would REALLY like to see some evidence that Smith has actually been to Africa; a copy of an airline ticket, passport stamp or even a photograph. He has been unwilling to provide such evidence. He does, however, possess an extensive criminal record of fraud convictions as well as a traceable eBay history of purchasing foreign documents.
You’re right - but unless you [Barry] know for certain that those records no longer physically exist, what do you do in going about constructing a long form birth certificate? His problem is that whether the paper records exist or not, those records were compiled by and about people - medical and support staff - and if you don’t know who they WOULD have been, how can you know what names to put on the contrived document? And how also can you know whether or not they - and/or interested, knowledgeable members of their families - just might see the “official, original [concocted] long form birth certificate” presented to the media, and say, “WTF?!!” Concocting a fake certificate puts Barry at exquisite risk of being outed as a fraud - simply because there’s no way he can be certain beyond any doubt that there’s no living person who can prove him a liar. That’s just on the assumption that the physical paper trail does indeed no longer exist. And how can he ascertain that without tipping his hand? The staff at those two hospitals and the HDOH may not have loose lips - yet - but without a doubt they’re all paying close attention. And all that’s only if he truly was born in a Honolulu hospital.
Barry’s biggest problem is his arrogance. He assumed he could just toss out lies about his birth circumstances without any concern about being questioned. The same attitude applies to ALL the lies and secrecy about him. What he and his handlers ignored was the possibility of people such as the remarkable long-timers here at FR who are far more intelligent than he, and who, unlike Barry, love and respect this country and its’ constitution. Those dedicated people are like Br’ere Rabbit, and they’ve got Barry stuck on that log in the briar patch. He’s lied so much, about so many aspects of his life, that at this point anything he does just begs another question - which then exposes yet another lie. And every small discovery by those who dig in the weeds does the same: exposes him further.
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