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Soviet Space Expert James Oberg Writes that “Palin was Right” About Sputnik
conservatives4palin ^ | Friday January 28, 2011

Posted on 01/28/2011 8:13:42 PM PST by Bigtigermike

Instapundit notes that Soviet space expert James Oberg supports Governor Palin’s comments on Sputnik:

I’m seeing up close how “Palin Derangement Syndrome” can compel otherwise intelligent people to foam at the mouth and babble nonsense to prove they’re right and she’s wrong.

The historical view is that the early Soviet victories in the Space Race led to the US response of the Apollo program, whose triumph validated the superiority of US space technology — which had profound diplomatic, military, commercial, and cultural consequences. When Reagan challenged the USSR with Strategic Defense in the 1980s, Apollo had given that challenge credibility — and the same pundits in the West and in Russian who pooh-poohed SDI had also pooh-poohed the odds of Apollo working.

Proven wrong once, they lost credibility when Gorbachyov had to decide when/.if to pull the plug on the USSR’s own hideously expensive space weapons programs (eg, Polyus-Skif and Buran). Soviet leadership came to believe, rightly or wrongly, that SDI was a lethal threat to them, based on the success of Apollo that had only been made possible by the stinging US defeats in the early Space Race, It’s more complicated, but the essence is, Palin was right: the Soviets sowed the seed of their own collapse by setting off the Space Race.

James Edward Oberg (often known as Jim Oberg) is an American space journalist and historian, regarded as an expert on the Russian space program.


TOPICS: Government; Military/Veterans; Miscellaneous; Politics
KEYWORDS: elections; freepressforpalin; jamesoberg; obama; obamaspeech; palin; palinwtf; pds; sarahpalin; spoutnik; sputnik
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Sarah makes fools out of the liberals, or at least reveals them to the rest of the World
1 posted on 01/28/2011 8:13:46 PM PST by Bigtigermike
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To: onyx

Ping


2 posted on 01/28/2011 8:19:41 PM PST by Fiddlstix (Warning! This Is A Subliminal Tagline! Read it at your own risk!(Presented by TagLines R US))
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To: Bigtigermike

If Palin was right, but Big Media doesn’t report it, do most people go on believing the lie anyway?


3 posted on 01/28/2011 8:19:56 PM PST by Christian Engineer Mass (25ish Cambridge, MA grad student. Any potential conservative Christian FReepmail-FRiends out there?)
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To: Bigtigermike

The Nedelin disaster was a key in leapfrogging the Soviets in the 60s. Wonder if the whole story will ever come out.


4 posted on 01/28/2011 8:24:10 PM PST by edpc (It's Kräusened)
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To: Bigtigermike; 1_Rain_Drop; 4woodenboats; 6323cd; Abbeville Conservative; abigail2; ...
Soviet space expert James Oberg supports Governor Palins comments on Sputnik:

"Im seeing up close how Palin Derangement Syndrome can compel otherwise intelligent people to foam at the mouth and babble nonsense to prove theyre right and shes wrong."

SARAH PALIN'S PING LIST

5 posted on 01/28/2011 8:24:33 PM PST by onyx (If you truly support Sarah Palin and want to be on her busy ping list, let me know!)
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To: Bigtigermike

Polyus-Skif and Buran....INTERESTING RUSSIAN ABM/ASAT IDEAS.


6 posted on 01/28/2011 8:30:30 PM PST by TomasUSMC ( FIGHT LIKE WW2, FINISH LIKE WW2. FIGHT LIKE NAM, FINISH LIKE NAM)
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To: Bigtigermike

I find a constant source of amusement these so-called liberal “educated” elitists are often finding themselves proven wrong by Sarah.


7 posted on 01/28/2011 8:31:09 PM PST by OrioleFan (Republicans believe every day is the 4th of July, democrats believe every day is April 15.)
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To: onyx; pissant
“Palin Derangement Syndrome” can compel otherwise intelligent people to foam at the mouth and babble nonsense to prove they’re right and she’s wrong."

'otherwise intelligent', maybe...but even pissant falls into that PDS category, he must be the exception that proves the rule...

(No need to respond pissant, I only pinged you out of courtesy because I mentioned your name. I'm sure you will hold this Soviet space expert is low esteem as well. We needn't hear what your opinion is, we know it all to well.)

8 posted on 01/28/2011 8:33:49 PM PST by t-dude (Sarah causes banal and vituperous evil snarks to shriek in horror!)
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To: Bigtigermike
I think the US expected to be the first to send satellites into space and was caught off guard by the launching of Sputnik--our first successful launch was several months later, but we had a space program before Sputnik.

Nobody has pointed out the real lesson of Sputnik. On the second Sputnik the Soviets sent up a dog, even though they had no way to bring her back to earth alive. If Communism could kill a poor dog like that so callously, it had to be an evil system.

(Yes, I know they also killed 100 million people, but it's easier to get people worked up over a dog.)

9 posted on 01/28/2011 8:34:03 PM PST by Verginius Rufus
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To: Christian Engineer Mass
If Palin was right, but Big Media doesn’t report it, do most people go on believing the lie anyway?

If a tree falls down in the forest and nobody hears it did it make a noise? heh!
10 posted on 01/28/2011 8:34:27 PM PST by Bigtigermike
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To: OrioleFan
I find a constant source of amusement these so-called liberal “educated” elitists are often finding themselves proven wrong by Sarah.

Yeah, it's great fun!

11 posted on 01/28/2011 8:36:56 PM PST by SuziQ
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To: Bigtigermike
Hate to tell you, but this article puts a hole in Pissant’s latest PDS talking point.

I would ping Pissant, but he can smell a Palin thread a mile away. Let's just call this a test of my theory. LOL

(just messin with you PA)

12 posted on 01/28/2011 8:38:50 PM PST by Kickass Conservative (They bring a Bible to a Memorial, we bring a T Shirt - Long Legged Mac Daddy)
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To: Bigtigermike
"Sarah makes fools out of the liberals, or at least reveals them to the rest of the World."

True enough. She also shows the naked, wrinkled rumps of more than a few "conservatives," who, if their politics were half as strong as their ignorant prejudices, would be embracing her as the superstar political giant that she is.

But, hey... think how boring it would be if everybody were at least minimally intelligent and possessed of just the tiniest spec of integrity. The world needs fork-tongued morons, too.

8^D

13 posted on 01/28/2011 8:41:03 PM PST by Gargantua (Palin ~ West 2012... Demand Exceptional--America deserves the best)
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To: Bigtigermike

All “Star Wars” was about was a youthful Sarah Palin wanting to shoot and kill wolves from space.


14 posted on 01/28/2011 8:41:32 PM PST by Attention Surplus Disorder ("Looks like I picked the wrong week to quit smoking" - Barack Hussein Obama)
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To: Bigtigermike

Correct me if I’m wrong, but the history was that Sputnik, the size of a watermelon, was the first orbiter prior to Mercury.


15 posted on 01/28/2011 8:43:07 PM PST by CIDKauf (No man has a good enough memory to be a successful liar.)
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To: Kickass Conservative
Hate to tell you, but this article puts a hole in Pissant’s latest PDS talking point.

I=You're right!! I forgot about that,I wonder how Pissant is going to spin this. Will he be fool enough to argue with an expert if not the foremost expert on U.S.-Soviet Space Programs?
16 posted on 01/28/2011 8:43:45 PM PST by Bigtigermike
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To: Bigtigermike

It’s a SPUTNIK moment alright:

S ARAH
P ALIN
U NHINGES
T HE
N ARCISSISTIC
I NEXPERIENCED
K ENYAN


17 posted on 01/28/2011 8:44:11 PM PST by bigbob
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To: Kickass Conservative
......Pissant’s latest PDS talking point.

Yeah, most of them are really little WTF moments to the rational ;^)

18 posted on 01/28/2011 8:45:14 PM PST by The Cajun
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To: t-dude; onyx

Please check your FR mail.

Thanks


19 posted on 01/28/2011 8:46:35 PM PST by Clyde5445 (If you truly support Sarah Palin and want to be on her busy ping list, let me know!)
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To: Verginius Rufus
Nobody has pointed out the real lesson of Sputnik. On the second Sputnik the Soviets sent up a dog, even though they had no way to bring her back to earth alive. If Communism could kill a poor dog like that so callously, it had to be an evil system.

An old lady once asked Gorbachev whether Communism is philosophy or science. Gorby thought for a moment and answered, “Philosophy”. “I thought so,” exclaimed the babushka, “Scientists would have tried it on animals first!”

20 posted on 01/28/2011 8:47:06 PM PST by cynwoody
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To: The Cajun

That’s funny!! LOL!

Who knew laughing at Pissant would be so fun!


21 posted on 01/28/2011 8:47:22 PM PST by Bigtigermike
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To: onyx

Palin wins, she always does.

Palin is going to win the presidency in 2012.


22 posted on 01/28/2011 8:49:05 PM PST by Gator113 (I'm voting for Sarah Palin, Liberty, our Constitution and American Exceptionalism.)
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To: Bigtigermike

What did Governor Palin say about Sputnik?


23 posted on 01/28/2011 8:50:28 PM PST by gitmo ( The democRats drew first blood. It's our turn now.)
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To: Verginius Rufus

Exactly. Sure, putting a dog in space has some sort of notoriety but is of dubious distinction. It’s like a swimming record that ends in death while in midstream.


24 posted on 01/28/2011 8:50:48 PM PST by lbryce
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To: Kickass Conservative
"Hate to tell you, but this article puts a hole in Pissant’s latest PDS talking point."

I inserted some much-needed highlighting, to illuminate your potentially unintentional but nonthesess succinctly descriptive and thoroughly deserved dual entendré.

8^D

25 posted on 01/28/2011 8:51:06 PM PST by Gargantua (Palin ~ West 2012... Demand Exceptional--America deserves the best)
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To: Bigtigermike
Who knew laughing at Pissant would be so fun!

Hell, when you can make fun of the little urine formicidae and OBummer at the same time, t'is a good day ;^)

26 posted on 01/28/2011 8:55:06 PM PST by The Cajun
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To: Bigtigermike

Sarah speaks the truth, and as GBeck says, the truth has no agenda. That must really frazzle the leftist vermin like hissy matthews and company.


27 posted on 01/28/2011 8:55:49 PM PST by MHGinTN (Some, believing they can't be deceived, it's nigh impossible to convince them when they're deceived.)
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To: CIDKauf

The size of the Sputnik was 30.0 m / 98 ft (height) with a diameter of 2.99 m (9.8 ft). Its mass was 267,000 kg (590,000 lbs).

In other words, about the size of Michelle’s fat butt.


28 posted on 01/28/2011 8:56:43 PM PST by Gator113 (I'm voting for Sarah Palin, Liberty, our Constitution and American Exceptionalism.)
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To: Bigtigermike; onyx; t-dude; Clyde5445
Will he be fool enough to argue with an expert

Bear.
Woods.

""Whom the Gods would destroy they first make mad."

29 posted on 01/28/2011 8:57:08 PM PST by Lakeshark (Thank a member of the US armed forces for their sacrifice)
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To: bigbob
^5
PREFECT©

30 posted on 01/28/2011 8:59:15 PM PST by onyx (If you truly support Sarah Palin and want to be on her busy ping list, let me know!)
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To: Gargantua

The minds that inhabit FR are truly diabolical. In a good way of course.

You made me laugh out loud. I woke up the dog. HAHAHA


31 posted on 01/28/2011 9:00:40 PM PST by Kickass Conservative (They bring a Bible to a Memorial, we bring a T Shirt - Long Legged Mac Daddy)
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To: Gator113

BIG watermelon! LOL


32 posted on 01/28/2011 9:00:48 PM PST by CIDKauf (No man has a good enough memory to be a successful liar.)
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To: Fiddlstix

Thank you!!! I spotted it right away also, but it took me a while to ready the ping.


33 posted on 01/28/2011 9:01:20 PM PST by onyx (If you truly support Sarah Palin and want to be on her busy ping list, let me know!)
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To: Kickass Conservative
Sorry, it was completely intentional.

LOL!

8^D

34 posted on 01/28/2011 9:03:06 PM PST by Gargantua (Palin ~ West 2012... Demand Exceptional--America deserves the best)
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To: Robe

for later


35 posted on 01/28/2011 9:07:19 PM PST by Robe (Rome did not create a great empire by talking, they did it by killing all those who opposed them)
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To: Christian Engineer Mass

That’s also been a concern with me. The lie is still out there because of our pravda. I wish Sarah said pravda...there’d be wigs on the green. lol


36 posted on 01/28/2011 9:09:03 PM PST by bronxville
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To: onyx

bttt


37 posted on 01/28/2011 9:09:15 PM PST by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life :o)
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To: Christian Engineer Mass

There’s the problem.
She makes a statement. They immediately jump on it with riducule. It is chewed on for several days. Some expert quietly validates her statement. Crickets

Palin makes another statement. Groundhog Day.


38 posted on 01/28/2011 9:09:59 PM PST by GlockLady
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To: sickoflibs; Wallop the Cat

Here ya go. That PDS sure limits your ability to click on a link, doesn’t it?


39 posted on 01/28/2011 9:13:21 PM PST by meadsjn (Sarah 2012, or sooner)
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To: Bigtigermike
Sarah makes fools out of the liberals, or at least reveals them to the rest of the World.

Sarah makes fools out of the liberals, or at least and reveals them to the rest of the World.

Every time she is several steps ahead and it drives them nuts. LOL!

40 posted on 01/28/2011 9:15:04 PM PST by RedMDer (restoration of our honor, dignity, and freedoms will save America. - Sarah Palin)
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To: CIDKauf
Correct me if I’m wrong, but the history was that Sputnik, the size of a watermelon, was the first orbiter prior to Mercury.

The US's first satellite was Explorer 1 in 1958. That preceded the Mercury program.

41 posted on 01/28/2011 9:25:05 PM PST by exit82 (Democrats are the enemy of freedom. Sarah Palin is our Esther.)
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To: Bigtigermike

Of course, Sarah Palin was right....the left are the true dummies...


42 posted on 01/28/2011 9:36:05 PM PST by shield (A wise man's heart is at his RIGHT hand;but a fool's heart at his LEFT. Ecc 10:2)
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To: sickoflibs
On Sputnik and the fall of the USSR she has a huge timeline problem. Sputnik was 1957. The USSR didnt collapse until 1989 and that was Reagan that did it, not Sputnik. The Soviet's went broke on the military because Reagan stood up to them. Just a few years earlier under Carter they were rolling into country after country hardly broke from Sputnik in 1957. Read Ann Coulters book Treason.

Ann Coulter writes some good stuff, but I don't recall seeing her labeled a "Soviet Space Expert".

43 posted on 01/28/2011 9:41:25 PM PST by meadsjn (Sarah 2012, or sooner)
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To: Bigtigermike

You betcha Sarah Palin was right. She was born and raised in the USA so she knows American history.


44 posted on 01/28/2011 9:45:32 PM PST by TigersEye (Who crashed the markets on 9/28/08 and why?)
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To: Bigtigermike

The bedwetting, girlymen DemocRATS are wrong! Girls are smart! A hell of a lot smarter than liberal girlymen.


45 posted on 01/28/2011 9:45:32 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer (Where were all these calls for "civility" when Bush was president?)
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To: Gator113

You betcha!


46 posted on 01/28/2011 9:49:38 PM PST by onyx (If you truly support Sarah Palin and want to be on her busy ping list, let me know!)
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To: Gator113
Sputnik 1 had a diameter of 23" and weighed 184 lbs. The linked article has a lot of interesting information about the satellite and the event.

I remember the headline in the NEWARK EVENING NEWS, SPUTNIK IN ORBIT, and I remember going outside to see it go over. I was only 9 years old, but I think the extent of panic and humiliation in the USA is exaggerated in retrospect. It was a matter of being beaten out by an underdog, but the competition had already been initiated by the drive for rockets suitable for ICBMs. Things were moving fast in those days.

47 posted on 01/28/2011 9:54:29 PM PST by dr_lew
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To: meadsjn; sickoflibs

Yep, you’re absolutely right. Palin was 100% correct in blaming the collapse of the Soviet Union on Sputnik, just as she was 100% correct that the answer to the economic malaise is to have more potato donut shops. She is not ready for prime time.


48 posted on 01/28/2011 10:40:54 PM PST by Wallop the Cat
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To: Bigtigermike

With the education system in this country how many people under 40 know what Sputnik was?


49 posted on 01/28/2011 10:52:04 PM PST by Bookie1066 (I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. My life is my own.)
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To: Wallop the Cat

Troll alert


50 posted on 01/28/2011 10:52:26 PM PST by Bigtigermike
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