Posted on 01/01/2011 12:42:17 PM PST by darkwing104
Adm. Robert Willard, Commander of the U.S. Pacific Command, told the Japanese newspaper Asahi Shimbun that China is deploying its new Dong Feng-21D anti-ship ballistic missile they publicly claim can sink U.S. aircraft carriers. The Admiral stated “this kind of capability should be a concern to the region, and it poses a challenge to any naval or air operations that would be conducted in that area were it to be employed.”
What is a Dong Feng-21D?
The Dong Feng-21D is a land-based guided missile that launches it war-head into space and returns it to earth at ten times the speed of sound while maneuvering to strike a moving target. Updates and tracking will be provided by satellites, unmanned aerial vehicles and radar all linked by a communications network, most likely, provided by military satellites.
Since the targets will be out of sight of ground base units it would have to be dependent on air and space borne
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No problem.... we just launch a space shuttle armed with rockets and shoot down every damn chinese satellite we can find.
Well, that’s just not good. (if it works as advertised)
We are covered so don't worry.
We also have a few thousand ICBMs.
If they sank one of our carriers, I’d say that would be more than enough provocation to justify using one.
Nothing good could happen for the Chinese if this this picture came to pass. (think Trident)
Must be their ally the Russians, right?
First, there is no proof that this system even works. Second, even several direct hits from weapons of this size will not sink a carrier. Third, our carrier task groups each include Aegis cruisers and destroyers that are capable of shooting down incoming ballistic missile. This is an additional threat that must be taken into account, to be sure, but it is *not* a ‘carrier killer’.
Why sink the carriers when they can claim them for themselves as they are 0’s creditors?
He only jumps in if he can take credit for something or look good. Otherwise his surrogates have to do the talking.
Exactly why does the US think China is a broker in the Korea issue? Is it the Chinese involvement in the war? Their involvement in Vietnam? Their development of weapon systems specifically designed to counter us? Their not so secret long term hegemonic regional influence and desire to become able to project force? It is absurd to suppose the Chinese are in any way neutral or objective when it comes to Korea..... They have economic interests with the north which is dependent on them and they use the north as leverage against us, actually spurring on the conflict when we act in a way they don't like. For example, if we do something they don't like regard Taiwan, you expect that mysteriously and suddenly north Korea might flare up......... The US reliance on China for a solution to the north Korean issue is like asking a drug dealer to help in the treatment of the addicted.
We also have a few thousand ICBMs.
If they sank one of our carriers, I’d say that would be more than enough provocation to justify using one.
5 posted on Saturday, January 01, 2011 3:51:40 PM by KoRn
When you say one i take it your refering to a baker’s dozen?
We have been seeing a lot of things about how strong China’s military is lately, and how we can’t bring our carriers close to China. I bet this is just a set up so Obummer won’t get to much grief for not defending our allies. I wouldn’t put it past him to let Taiwan fall with out any of our help. Or even South Korea.
“If they sank one of our carriers, I’d say that would be more than enough provocation to justify using one.”
Like Soros will allow Obama to start a war with our country’s benefactor.
0 will always do the bidding of his marxist masters. I doubt if (heaven forbid!) say a carrier or its battle group were “liquidated” by the Chinese, he would do anything except bow and blame the downright mean country he is president of.
Sure hard to keep those whitewall tires clean in battle conditions what with rain and mud.
Well, he did have rushin' fingers. (and Roman hands)
Obama cancels anti-carrier killer missile missile. In order to spread the military power around and level the battlefield.
They call it the ‘Clinton’.
History settled the debate. Let's not get caught exposed again.
Wiki: "HMS Prince of Wales (pennant number 53) was a King George V-class battleship of the Royal Navy, built at the Cammell Laird shipyard in Birkenhead, England. The Prince of Wales had a brief but active career, helping to stop the Bismarck and carrying Winston Churchill to the Newfoundland Conference; however, her sinking by Japanese land-based bombers in the Far East in 1941 is one of the events that led to the end of the battleship being considered the predominant class in naval warfare."
Hubris can kill.
The Clinton is the code name for the Bill version of the missile.
The Clin2ton is the code name for the Hillary version of the missile.
The Clinton is the code name for the Bill version of the missile.
The Clin2ton is the code name for the Hillary version of the missile.
Where are we going to get a space shuttle? Last flight scheduled for April 2011. Fleet is being scattered.
Sorry, but your comparison is simply invalid and inapplicable. The same was said about antiship cruise missiles like the Exocent making navies obsolete. That was obviously wrong., as are almost all claims about new 'superweapons' making whole classes of primary weapons systems 'useless' and 'obsolete'.
You clearly do not understand just how difficult a modern carrier is to sink. A carrier is literally a small floating city, and has thousands of watertight compartments. To sink one, you need a to breach a significant percentage of those compartments. This weapon is not even remotely capable of accomplishing that. They are in no way the quantum advancement represented by the introduction of aerial warfare. They are merely a different means of delivering an explosive warhead the size of an aircraft bomb on target.
Even in WWII, our carriers were able to absorb multiple direct hits by 1000 pound and larger armor-piercing bombs and not be sunk. Modern carriers are much larger and have far better firefighting and damage control equipment. There have been a number of cases where fires in the hangar decks of modern carriers have led to the explosion of several aircraft fully loaded with ordnance. This involved a hell of a lot more explosives; tens of thousands of pounds of them; detonating within the ship than a half-dozen direct hits from these Chinese missiles could deliver. Our carriers not only survived these incidents, they returned to port under their own power.
So the idea that these Chinese missiles can actually sink a carrier is fantasy. They could, if they somehow got past our Aegis anti-missile defenses, certainly damage a carrier, but the same is true of any weapon system aimed at carriers. That is the nature of war; attack and defense. This is just another new warhead delivery system for which we already have a good defense.
We’d better be thinking of a new POTUS because the one we have isn’t going to retaliate.
Probably their allies the Clintons.
No sarcasm needed.....
Paid for and developed, by one-sided “Free Trade”.
It will get worse.
Darn right. It's like the notion that USAF bases and facilities are less vulnerable than 30kt aircraft carriers.
All of which have been functionally deactivated by Komrade Kenyan.
Don’t forget popping the “three gorges” dam. Worth 5 times the cost of a carrier, and that’s not counting the lost electricity and damage downstream.
Jezz, it was just a few days ago when this missile was announced as still in the pre-testing stage, now it is not only tested, manufactured, and deployed as operational.... my those Chinese sure move fast.
some tru spokes, drop it a little..... those white walls are redickulus!!!
Have you ever noticed how none of the Free Republic Free Trade crowd EVER chimes in on any of these Chinese military threat threads?
Even less likely is a Big Government Conservative chiming-in on one of my China strategic threat threads. Posting stuff from Heritage does that to them.
I have debated and debated you. You dodge as usual.
For that matter, I’ve never seen you on a human-trafficking thread. Remaining true to your heritage?
What is a human trafficking thread? What about THIS thread care to comment?
Todd, rude boy chickened out, will you comment on this thread?
Magnequench: CFIUS and China's Thirst for U.S. Defense Technology.Note the date and who posted it.
Todd, never mind our slave-loving friend, he's whining again.
You are just a long winded blow hard. Nobody seems to be able to debate you because you are incapable of making your position clear. I went to that link you provided, kind of ridiculous to post that book and then not comment or summarize at all, and then belittle because nobody wanted to play. You’re idiot.
You child. You asked why “none of the Free Republic Free Trade crowd EVER chimes in on any of these Chinese military threat threads?” I gave you one of my favorite examples, and now you complain that you lack the attention span to read it? Is it past your bedtime? You sound tired and cranky.
You are a confused hypocrite, go to bed. Selling out out your country is hard work so you should be tired.
Poor, poor, little boy. Wrong again. Don’t fret, as you grow older you’ll grow accustomed to it.
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