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The Pope's Warning to a Disintegrating Western Civilization
Examiner ^ | December 30, 2010 | Kevin Whiteman

Posted on 12/31/2010 1:13:04 PM PST by NYer

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To: NYer
The Holy Father has merely spoken the truth that is obvious to everyone.

The Dark Age on the horizon will follow the Fall of America due to spiritual and moral decay and rot from within: Decadence.

The only thing that can save the world from the impending Dark Age is a spiritual and moral renaissance in the United States.

The American people can lead the world into the American Dream: peace, liberty, justice, and prosperity for all of the people of the world. The question is: Will they? or Do they have the will?

21 posted on 12/31/2010 2:47:10 PM PST by Savage Beast (Truth : Leftist :: Crucifix : Vampire)
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To: NYer
The next "consensus" will be (and already is) antiChristian, global, and absolute.

Dissent will be progressively seduced, persuaded, coerced, intimidated, marginalized, and eliminated.

22 posted on 12/31/2010 2:52:55 PM PST by the invisib1e hand (If these are the good old days, we are so screwed.)
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To: TSgt

Wow, you manage to insinuate yourself into every thread that mentions Cathicism, don’t you? You should get back on you meds.


23 posted on 12/31/2010 2:56:08 PM PST by the invisib1e hand (If these are the good old days, we are so screwed.)
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To: the invisib1e hand

Catholicism, that is. And, “youR meds.”


24 posted on 12/31/2010 2:58:19 PM PST by the invisib1e hand (If these are the good old days, we are so screwed.)
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To: the invisib1e hand

Catholic hating never takes a day off.


25 posted on 12/31/2010 3:02:44 PM PST by IrishCatholic (No local Communist or Socialist Party Chapter? Join the Democrats, it's the same thing!)
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To: NYer

I’m not Catholic nor any flavor of Christian but I like this Pope. Time after time he is clear, concise and cuts right to the bottom line with no sugar coating. Although citing Alexis de Tocqueville does have a certain sweetness to it.


26 posted on 12/31/2010 3:11:41 PM PST by TigersEye (Who crashed the markets on 9/28/08 and why?)
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To: maica
"Then my jaw dropped! As background about Saul Alinsky, the author wrote "In the spring of 1958 Alinsky received a peculiar invitation, his first from overseas. The Italian cardinal Giovanni Battista Montini, archbishop of Milan, wanted his advice on a thorny problem."

Five years later Cardinal Montini was Pope Pius VI and "the Catholic Church began a massive community organizing drive in the United States.

------------- Uh, That would be Pope Paul VI not Pope Pius VI.

27 posted on 12/31/2010 3:15:35 PM PST by shortstop (Marco Rubio in 2010/Chris Christie in 2012.)
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To: MeganC
Fortunately, the state of the Church in the U.S. has been something of an anomaly. Believe it or not, the Church has survived far worse crises, has been cleaned up, and has gone on.

For what it's worth, the problem is that bishops traditionally have a LOT more autonomy than a corporate manager or head of division. They can't just be fired, and the Pope can't just tell them to shape up or ship out.

And America has been a problem for years and years, because of the strong strain of Nativist anti-Catholicism and the nature of presidential politics. Al Smith was reviled for being supposedly subordinate to the Pope and the Vatican's tool, thus unfit to be president. Kennedy practically had to swear on a stack of Masonic Landmarks that he wouldn't govern like a Catholic.

So the popes have been reluctant to interfere with the bishops in the U.S., and far too many of those bishops took the easy road and went with the "Spirit of the Age" (and some of them were recommended by a very liberal Archbishop, who was seeking to 'reform' the Church into something much more protestant and trendy). Mostly the bishops wound up in the heterodox trap, but for some of them that led directly to the homosexual trap. Some bishops covered up the homosexual molestation because they, themselves, were homosexual and were subject to blackmail and bribery.

When then-Cardinal Ratzinger decreed that ALL sexual abuse cases were to be reported directly to Rome, that was a major change in church governance. And when he was elected pope, the lavender mafia shook in their expensive Italian shoes.

We hold to the promise that the gates of Hell will not prevail against the Church. Somebody like Pope St. Pius X or Pope Benedict is sent by the Holy Spirit to straighten out the fallible human beings that govern her.

28 posted on 12/31/2010 3:51:57 PM PST by AnAmericanMother (Ministrix of ye Chasse, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment))
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To: AnAmericanMother

“We hold to the promise that the gates of Hell will not prevail against the Church. Somebody like Pope St. Pius X or Pope Benedict is sent by the Holy Spirit to straighten out the fallible human beings that govern her. “

Amen. Thank you for that.


29 posted on 12/31/2010 3:56:46 PM PST by PatriotGirl827 (Lord Jesus, direct my mind, possess my heart, transform my life)
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To: shortstop

You are correct. My bad. Thanks for the correction.

Pope Paul VI is what I meant to write.


30 posted on 12/31/2010 3:58:46 PM PST by maica
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To: maica
I knew what you meant, and I read right over it!


H.H. Pius VI


H.H. Paul VI

31 posted on 12/31/2010 4:19:25 PM PST by AnAmericanMother (Ministrix of ye Chasse, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment))
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To: IrishCatholic
Catholic hating never takes a day off.

Fer sure. But something about how the same provocateurs, unbiden, appear to lay in wait for an opportunity to make themselves obnoxious and unwanted is a seasonal eye-opener.

32 posted on 12/31/2010 4:22:05 PM PST by the invisib1e hand (If these are the good old days, we are so screwed.)
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To: NYer

Placemark for pingout.


33 posted on 12/31/2010 11:06:17 PM PST by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point.CSLewis)
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To: NYer

I have to object to the blogger’s (Kevin Whiteman’s) characterization of the emerging age of vandals as “Dark Ages”. The Pope did not use it (I hope, at least, that he didn’t), and the phrase is an ignorant slur of the Middle Ages, the times of true enlightenment and individual freedom the likes of which humanity has not seen since.


34 posted on 01/01/2011 12:53:04 AM PST by annalex (http://www.catecheticsonline.com/CatenaAurea.php)
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To: NYer

>> Morality is replaced by a calculus of consequences, and in the process it ceases to exist.

Benedict could pass for a FReeper. Good stuff.


35 posted on 01/01/2011 1:02:18 AM PST by Gene Eric (Your Hope has been redistributed. Here's your Change.)
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To: the invisib1e hand; IrishCatholic
But something about how the same provocateurs, unbiden, appear to lay in wait for an opportunity to make themselves obnoxious and unwanted is a seasonal eye-opener.

Glad I'm not the only one to notice this. I am constantly astounded when freepers who have not posted in a long time suddenly surface with the sole purpose of attacking the Catholic Church in one form or another. I believe this stems from fear which in turn comes from ignorance.

Happy New Year!

36 posted on 01/01/2011 7:01:58 AM PST by NYer ("Be kind to every person you meet. For every person is fighting a great battle." St. Ephraim)
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To: NYer
And bad manners.

Rejoice!

37 posted on 01/01/2011 8:51:57 AM PST by the invisib1e hand
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To: NYer
Our faith too is often asleep. Let us ask him, then, to wake us from the sleep of a faith grown tired, and to restore to that faith the power to move mountains – that is, to order justly the affairs of the world.

This is huge.

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Truly this man has the words of life. Let those who have ears, hear. The rest exclude themselves and are basically a pain in the @ss.

38 posted on 01/01/2011 9:07:52 AM PST by the invisib1e hand
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