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UFO details in unreleased cables: WikiLeaks-Files make reference to alien life
The Montreal Gazette / The London Daily Telegraph ^ | December 5, 2010 | Andrew Hough

Posted on 12/05/2010 4:36:04 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

London-New leaked diplomatic cables set to be published by WikiLeaks will contain fresh details on UFOs, according to the website's founder Julian Assange.

The 39-year-old Australian, who is wanted by Interpol over a charge of rape and sexual assault in Sweden, said there were some references to extraterrestrial life in yet-to-be-published confidential files obtained from the U.S. government.

He did not disclose what information was contained in the diplomatic memos obtained by the whistleblowing website. It also remains unclear when they will be published.

Assange said his website, under considerable strain in recent days over its "CableGate" series of leaks, received emails from “weirdos” claiming to have seen UFOs.

“Many weirdos email us about UFOs or how they discovered that they were the antichrist whilst talking with their ex-wife at a garden party over a pot plant,” he wrote when asked if any of the documents he had received referred to extraterrestrial life.

“However, as yet they have not satisfied two of our publishing rules: 1) that the documents not be self-authored; 2) that they be original."

“It is worth noting that in yet-to-be-published parts of the CableGate archive there are indeed references to UFOs.”

(Excerpt) Read more at montrealgazette.com ...


TOPICS: Computers/Internet; Conspiracy; Politics; UFO's
KEYWORDS: ufo; wikileaks
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No wonder Ron Paul is supporting him.
1 posted on 12/05/2010 4:36:09 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Bump!


2 posted on 12/05/2010 4:38:38 PM PST by Mr. Silverback (Anyone who says we need illegals to do the jobs Americans won't do has never watched "Dirty Jobs.")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
, said there were some references to extraterrestrial life in yet-to-be-published confidential files obtained from the U.S. government.

Translation error: The transcripts said the US was now led by an Illegal Alien (from Kenya) not an extraterrestrial one.

3 posted on 12/05/2010 4:39:26 PM PST by freedumb2003 (Lt. Drebin: Like a blind man at an orgy, I was going to have to feel my way through.)
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To: Quix; SunkenCiv

IBTN (In before the Neganuts) ping!

I just might be interested in downloading and reading these.


4 posted on 12/05/2010 4:41:02 PM PST by ApplegateRanch (Made in America, by proud American citizens, in 1946.)
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To: Quix

Red meat.


5 posted on 12/05/2010 4:42:57 PM PST by WorkingClassFilth
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

One really wonders how much WikiLeaks has information on how Goldman Sachs in its relentless pursuit of profits may have hurt seriously the economies of multiple countries, including the USA....


6 posted on 12/05/2010 4:43:25 PM PST by RayChuang88 (FairTax: America's economic cure)
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To: WorkingClassFilth; KevinDavis

I want to see what those things say


7 posted on 12/05/2010 4:45:33 PM PST by GeronL
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

8 posted on 12/05/2010 4:47:46 PM PST by paulycy (Demand Constitutionality. Save America From Bankruptcy.)
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To: paulycy

Michelle has incontinence?


9 posted on 12/05/2010 4:49:26 PM PST by ari-freedom (Happy Chanuka!)
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To: GeronL
Quix would be interested. I'm from Missouri, though.
10 posted on 12/05/2010 4:50:45 PM PST by WorkingClassFilth
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

—Was Obama’s mother probed?

—Will we finally find out where Obama was really born?

—Will we now know the story of how Obama got those Dumbo ears?


11 posted on 12/05/2010 4:51:06 PM PST by Gator113 (Sarah Palin can win, and she will win.)
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To: ApplegateRanch

Nothing to down load or read yet. The files have not been released for publication.


12 posted on 12/05/2010 4:51:09 PM PST by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Assange said his website, under considerable strain in recent days over its "CableGate" series of leaks, received emails from “weirdos” claiming to have seen UFOs.

Sounds like bad news for the "I wanna believe" crowd.
13 posted on 12/05/2010 4:52:52 PM PST by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: WorkingClassFilth

I wonder how we even know that all of this stuff is even authentic.


14 posted on 12/05/2010 4:56:45 PM PST by brytlea (Jesus loves me, this I know.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Roswell? It would be interesting if we find out ole Truman really did hide the INCIDENT and all Presidents after him... OK this one I want to see..


15 posted on 12/05/2010 4:58:09 PM PST by crazydad
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To: Red_Devil 232

Yes, but I’m still standing in line!

Don’t forget that people (not me!) did start camping in front of stroes for Black Friday days before the doors opened for the sales, too. LOL


16 posted on 12/05/2010 5:02:44 PM PST by ApplegateRanch (Made in America, by proud American citizens, in 1946.)
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To: Gator113

Didn’t you know that Rosemarys baby was based on a true story of Obamas mom. It really happened.. They all collaborated to have satan sex Obamas momma up. I tell you its true.. Sarc!


17 posted on 12/05/2010 5:03:06 PM PST by crazydad
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To: ApplegateRanch

I am right behind you in line. LOL I wish he would stop the teasing and just release everything at once.


18 posted on 12/05/2010 5:05:58 PM PST by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

This wikileaks guy reminds me of some High tech bad guy from a movie, but for the life of me I can’t remember which one.


19 posted on 12/05/2010 5:07:45 PM PST by dinoparty
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To: Red_Devil 232

Yep, cut it into categories, then release it all, like the Climategate people did it.


20 posted on 12/05/2010 5:09:11 PM PST by ApplegateRanch (Made in America, by proud American citizens, in 1946.)
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To: brytlea

We don’t and we won’t.


21 posted on 12/05/2010 5:09:17 PM PST by WorkingClassFilth
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

22 posted on 12/05/2010 5:09:21 PM PST by RedMDer (Forward With Confidence!)
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To: brytlea
I wonder how we even know that all of this stuff is even authentic.

Would every nation on Earth we share diplomatic relations with be in a panic if they were not?

Wouldn't at least one of them have come out already and said as much?

Yeah, I think this is the real deal, now what I don't buy is that all of these ended up in Wikileaks hands via a single lowly US Army Private... that much is bullshit.

23 posted on 12/05/2010 5:13:35 PM PST by The Magical Mischief Tour (With The Resistance...)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
If the government has proof of extraterrestrial intelligence, and it comes out, it dwarfs everything in human history except Jesus.

It dwarfs snarky comments by the state department, troop movements, fed reserve bailouts.

It changes everything.

Scary.

24 posted on 12/05/2010 5:15:40 PM PST by InternetTuffGuy
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To: WorkingClassFilth

It won’t matter. People want to believe it, and they will. It won’t matter what is real and what is not. That’s the most worrisome thing. Truth doesn’t matter.


25 posted on 12/05/2010 5:15:57 PM PST by brytlea (Jesus loves me, this I know.)
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To: InternetTuffGuy
I was a member of the “intelligence community” for many years, albeit as a spear carrier. I will tell you that most everyone in that group knows that there are extraterrestrials and have known that for a long time. Sure, they scoff at those who claim there are, but it's with a knowing smile.
26 posted on 12/05/2010 5:21:04 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (Re: Gov. Sarah Palin: Even the lion has to defend himself against flies. ~German Proverb)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Well there you go. We can all stop wondering.


27 posted on 12/05/2010 5:24:30 PM PST by brytlea (Jesus loves me, this I know.)
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To: The Magical Mischief Tour

Try Rosa Brooks and her cell.


28 posted on 12/05/2010 5:26:40 PM PST by himno hero
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To: Gator113

Don’t forget the flap in his head and the thumb puppet.


29 posted on 12/05/2010 5:27:45 PM PST by John W (Natural-born US citizen since 1955)
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To: dinoparty

He’s a poor imitation of a James Bond movie villain.


30 posted on 12/05/2010 5:30:43 PM PST by buccaneer81 (ECOMCON)
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To: InternetTuffGuy

Pal? Extraterrestrial?
Its all in the Bible, they just don’t say it in those words, e/t’s, time travel, right down to the “Star” of Bethlehem. Some might take offence, but have a look.


31 posted on 12/05/2010 5:31:45 PM PST by himno hero
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

ok


32 posted on 12/05/2010 5:32:46 PM PST by Born to Conserve
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Defines “knows”. Are you saying that you have read or seen actual intelligence that prove the existence of extraterrestrials? Or, are you just passing on an accepted “gestalt” of your peer group without any specific evidence?

If the later, I don’t see how that is different than anyone who attends church discussing the existence of God. Not that I am putting down faith or belief in the Divine.

As for extraterrestrial, I do not disbelieve, and in fact hope they exist, but it would take a lot more than a “wink, wink, nudge, nudge” knowing smile to convince me of that.


33 posted on 12/05/2010 5:35:08 PM PST by Ronin ("Dismantle the TSA and send the screeners back to Wal-Mart.")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I try to keep an open but firmly objective mind, and did so when reading Leslie Kean’s recent book, “UFOs, Generals, Pilots, and Government Officials Go On The Record”. After doing so, the reader is pretty much left with one choice: either Kean (and several of the well-credentialed co-authors) are outright liars, or there is extraordinary evidence that we have been visited by ET intelligence. Just saying...


34 posted on 12/05/2010 5:35:51 PM PST by Flightdeck (If you hear me yell "Eject, Eject, Eject!" the last two will be echos...)
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To: Ronin

I’ve seen some and have had conversations with VERY high-level men who spoke as if it were an accepted fact. And yes, it is considered CW within that set, all the way down to lowly Spec/5’s who use 100-mile-an-hour tape and overlays in their daily rituals. Can I prove any of this? No, I have no access anymore, nor do I want any. I know it sounds like “Ulsterman’s Insider” and that kind of thing (although that might be real, too.) but I know what I know. It was quite an eye-opener for a 19 year old, as you might imagine, and I really haven’t gone into it too much, as I take my oaths seriously. But it’s 2010 and the Cold War is long since over.


35 posted on 12/05/2010 5:41:57 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (Re: Gov. Sarah Palin: Even the lion has to defend himself against flies. ~German Proverb)
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To: Ronin

The physics of our situation (roughly 300 billion galaxies in the universe, each with roughly 100 billion stars, each with an unknown number of planets) make it literally impossible that we are alone (at least as impossible as you winning the powerball every day for the next hundred years). The big question is whether ET intelligence has visited us.


36 posted on 12/05/2010 5:42:37 PM PST by Flightdeck (If you hear me yell "Eject, Eject, Eject!" the last two will be echos...)
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To: Flightdeck

Agreed, certainly. I have been a science fiction fanatic since I first cracked open one of Heinlein’s “juveniles” back in my preteens.

However, one interesting thing about science fiction fans in general (at least the ones I know) is that while we hope, indeed pray, for the existence of extraterrestrials and that they might make open contact with humanity during our lifetimes, we have no desire to be included in the ranks of the Roswell-type UFO conspiracy kooks.

If extraterrestrials can be proven to exist, why would they be kept secret? And please, do not insult me with the idea that somehow such proof would cause “worldwide panic”.


37 posted on 12/05/2010 5:53:54 PM PST by Ronin ("Dismantle the TSA and send the screeners back to Wal-Mart.")
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To: Ronin

I wouldn’t insult YOU with that idea, because as a FR veteran you are likely to possess far more common sense than each of the hundreds of worthless bureaucrats that have occupied the relevant public positions. But I wouldn’t put it past a career government worker to decide what’s right for the rest of us regarding such important information. Honestly, I think IF our government is aware of such contact, politics would prevail. Do you think it would be a politically wise move for any administration to support this idea without overwhelming and inconclusive evidence?


38 posted on 12/05/2010 6:01:57 PM PST by Flightdeck (If you hear me yell "Eject, Eject, Eject!" the last two will be echos...)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Agreed, I was a spear chucker as well. It was common knowledge that we have been visited and the USA has kept it under key for many years. Physical evidence is available. I just don’t know where. I can tell you it is not Roswell.


39 posted on 12/05/2010 6:06:45 PM PST by halfright (My presidents picture is in the dictionary, next to the word, "rectum".)
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To: Ronin
If extraterrestrials can be proven to exist, why would they be kept secret? And please, do not insult me with the idea that somehow such proof would cause “worldwide panic”.

I can think of a plethora of reasons that do not involved “worldwide panic”. Most involved money, power over others, etc...

40 posted on 12/05/2010 6:08:38 PM PST by The Magical Mischief Tour (With The Resistance...)
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To: halfright
Wright-Patterson Air Force Base, Ohio, at least immediately after the incident.
41 posted on 12/05/2010 6:16:57 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (Re: Gov. Sarah Palin: Even the lion has to defend himself against flies. ~German Proverb)
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To: Ronin

Thank you.


42 posted on 12/05/2010 6:19:18 PM PST by brytlea (Jesus loves me, this I know.)
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To: The Magical Mischief Tour

You’re smart enough to *know* this but most of the rest of humanity isn’t? mmmm hmmmm....


43 posted on 12/05/2010 6:21:31 PM PST by brytlea (Jesus loves me, this I know.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I totally agree, unfortunately I think that the church would go into panic cause it would call into question every thing taught... Sitchcin pretty much changes the whole Genisis theory... But if we knew that aliens really do exist. Someone has been lying for a very long time..


44 posted on 12/05/2010 6:21:37 PM PST by crazydad
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To: Flightdeck; Ronin

“Of course UFOs are real, and they are interplanetary. The cumulative evidence for the existence of UFOs is quite overwhelming and I accept the fact of their existence.”

“More than 10,000 sightings have been reported, the majority of which cannot be accounted for by any ‘scientific’ explanation, e.g. that they are hallucinations, the effects of light refraction, meteors, wheels falling from aeroplanes and the like. They have been tracked on radar screens and the observed speeds have been as great as 9,000 mph.

I am convinced that these objects do exist and they are not manufactured by any nation on earth.

I can therefore see no alternative to accepting the theory that they come from an extraterrestrial source.”

Air Chief Marshall Lord Hugh Dowding
Commanding Officer of the Royal Air Force during WWII.

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“Something is going on in the skies that we do not understand.

If all the airline pilots and Air Force pilots who have seen UFOs - and sometimes chased them - have been the victims of hallucinations, then an awful lot of pilots should be taken off and forbidden to fly.”

Captain Kervendal
French Gendarmerie

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“We must insist upon full access to discs recovered. In the LA case the Army grabbed it and would not let us have it for cursory examination.”

J Edgar Hoover
Former Director of the FBI

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“Extraterrestrial contact is a real phenomenon. The Vatican is receiving much information about extraterrestrials and their contacts with humans from its Nuncios (embassies) in various countries, such as Mexico, Chile and Venezuela.”

Monsignor Corrado Balducci
Vatican theologian insider close to the Pope. Monsignor Balducci is on a Vatican commission looking into extraterrestrial encounters, and how to cope with the emerging general realization of extraterrestrial contact.

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“The phenomenon of UFOs is real. I know that there are scientific organisations which study the problem. It must be treated seriously.”

Former Soviet President Mikhail Gorbachev

*****

“Behind the scenes, high-ranking Air Force officers are soberly concerned about UFOs. But through official secrecy and ridicule, many citizens are led to believe that unknown flying objects are nonsense.”

Roscoe Hillenkoetter
Former CIA Director in a public statement, 1960.

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“My own present opinion, based on two years of careful study, is that UFOs are probably extraterrestrial devices engaged in something that might very tentatively be termed ‘surveillance’.”

Dr James McDonald
Senior physicist at the Institute for Atmospheric Physics and professor in the Department of Meteorology at the University of Arizona before Congress in 1968

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“I know other astronauts share my feelings.... And we know the government is sitting on hard evidence of UFOs.”

Colonel Gordon Cooper
Mercury Nine, Gemini Five Astronaut


45 posted on 12/05/2010 6:29:02 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (Re: Gov. Sarah Palin: Even the lion has to defend himself against flies. ~German Proverb)
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To: himno hero

Dude someone that looks beyond the words, the bible talks about it all.. Ezekiel to the Nephelim to Adam and Eve... Read Sitchcin... The story of creation was handed down over the ages from the ancient summerians to the hebrews. It was written in a way that people could understand. In the ancient summerian it was pretty clear how we got her... I hate to use a liberal quote but “a mind is like a parchute it only works if it is open”.Man i think i puked in my mouth a bit after writing that..


46 posted on 12/05/2010 6:30:53 PM PST by crazydad
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“Wright-Patterson Air Force Base, Ohio, at least immediately after the incident.”

I worked on base for several years, still have a valid CAC card for WPAFB. As a building 18 (Propulsion directorate HQ) employee, we would occasionally laugh about “hangar 18” which doesn’t exist, but there was nothing in or below building 18. On the other hand, there is an (unclassified) base map which shows building levels and there were several which defined several more levels than any employee I knew had access to.


47 posted on 12/05/2010 6:32:01 PM PST by Flightdeck (If you hear me yell "Eject, Eject, Eject!" the last two will be echos...)
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To: crazydad

Herr Dude...
Ezekial, Isaac, Moses, David, John and there are more...many had experiences reframed as”visions” which were scaled back so the writer and the agent could maintain credibility!


48 posted on 12/05/2010 6:37:05 PM PST by himno hero
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Don’t forget Reagans speech where he talked about the “Outside visitor coming and the world coming together” Or something to that fact.. Really interesting how many people actually have talked about it.


49 posted on 12/05/2010 6:37:28 PM PST by crazydad
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To: Flightdeck

When I was at Ft. Ben Harrison, already done with DINFOS but waiting for orders, I would be tasked to drive patients to your hospital, as we only had a clinic. Spent my time waiting for them at the museum.


50 posted on 12/05/2010 6:46:05 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (Re: Gov. Sarah Palin: Even the lion has to defend himself against flies. ~German Proverb)
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