Feral Cops: They Shot The Dog! Again!(SWAT Team Rampage)

JohnJacobH RKBA Commentary ^ | 05/06/2010 | JohnJacobH RKBA Commentary

[ColdWater]

Since you love to quote youtube bloggers ...

"dangerous animals them pitbulls. A danger to children . a danger to the elderly. And as proven here a danger to themselves. Put them all down. humanely of course but put them all down. Obviously bred for killing."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lXiO_duXa5A

[ColdWater]

A pregnant woman was vicously attacked by a pit bull.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mNP5o1qSRrg&feature=related

[ColdWater]

From the same paragraph in your ‘source’:

” it turns out that rather than a big time drug dealer, “

We know that is false. He wa a cocaine dealer. Sent up the river more than once.

[Dr. Sivana]

If all illicit drugs were completely legal for sale to ADULTS, the following would happen: The drug gangs would collapse, their wars would stop.

You proved my assertion. I stated that most people who attack the War on Drugs really want full legalization. I don't like the aggressive and ubiquitous laws on behalf of the War on Drugs, but I don't want legalization, either. Your response was an attempt to convince me that all drugs should be legalized. I have heard the arguments, understand them, and disagree with them, for the most part.

As long as those who oppose the War on Drugs push for broad legalization of currently illegal drugs, they will not be able to put together a working coalition.

[Scythian]

Hey, all we hear from dog owners is kids get killed by pitbulls because the owners are bad owners right? Well, for once, a pitbull gets killed because of bad owners. Stop your whining, I never hear the outrage and crying over the kids constantly being killed.

Either the street runs both ways or it doesn’t.

[microgood]

Ah, great. An anonymous you tube dude is your source.

If you think about it, it does not matter if the animal was caged. These raids are designed to intentional kill all the dogs in a raid house.

Suppose the owner had the wherewithall to put the dogs in a bedroom when the cops knocked on the door so they would not be a danger to the cops. Well, since the cops have the owners laying on the ground at the point of a gun, and are not going to allow them to help to move the animal, eventually they are going to want to search the room the dog is in and then they are going to shoot it anyway.

So unless the owner could transport the animals to another location, they are doomed. I would not be surprised if they were ordered to kill all animals in the house since that is really the only possible outcome given the way they conduct the searches.

[ColdWater]

I guess drug dealers should just consider the cost of pit-bulls to be a business expense.

[Dr. Sivana]

Stop your whining, I never hear the outrage and crying over the kids constantly being killed.

Actually, I am active on most of the pro-life threads, so I do have outrage over kids constantly being killed. I do NOT want drug legalization. At the same time, the "War on Drugs" at the federal level has been used as an excuse to track all of our private financial transactions, all sorts of school programs of questionable value (e.g. DARE) and a general usurpation of states' rights.

I have never, ever taken an illegal drug in my life, not even pot. I am not sure why you think that people like me who want to enforce the law, but not use it as a pretense for a Leviathan state are the bad guys. Are you sure you meant your post for me? It is possible to be against illegal drugs, but also against the War on Drugs as it is currently waged.

[Dr. Sivana]

Hey, all we hear from dog owners is kids get killed by pitbulls because the owners are bad owners right? Well, for once, a pitbull gets killed because of bad owners.

I haven't said anything on this thread about pitbulls at all. I would be all for classifying them as a dangerous animal (like bobcats and wolves) if there were a way to define them that would not include innocent dogs.

[BCR #226]

Anyone shoots my dogs and there will be hell to pay. Those cops don’t need to be anywhere near a gun. They are irresponsible, immature, out of line and out of control. How the hell people like this get a badge is beyond me.

To say I am disgusted with the conduct of those cops is an understatement. It’s time to stop the gestapo mentality of law enforcement.

[Bubba Ho-Tep]

So unless the owner could transport the animals to another location, they are doomed. I would not be surprised if they were ordered to kill all animals in the house since that is really the only possible outcome given the way they conduct the searches.

So basically you're saying that a search warrant should be a license to shoot every animal they come across.

[Mister Da]

I support putting this alleged* dealer out of business by ending the WOD, just as the end of Prohibition put the moonshiners out of business; with the added benefit of slowing or reversing the growth of the police state. You may never encounter the WOD or a drug user, but it is certain that a police state will affect everyone.

Why would we continue to pursue a policy that has failed miserably for 70+ years in this country & in every other country that has tried it? Is it insanity, or tyranny?

*Since no guns were found, nor any coke, I doubt he did much coke dealing. Whatever justification the police used to get this warrant was a LIE, as proven by the insignificant amount of pot found! Impressive & courageous police work on so many levels - NOT!!!!!!!!

[ColdWater]

I support putting this alleged* dealer out of business by ending the WOD

I interpret that you mean the legalization of cocaine?

[microgood]

So basically you're saying that a search warrant should be a license to shoot every animal they come across.

I am not saying that, but I think the cops are. Personally, I do not care what or who the owner is, the cops should not get away with killing these innocent animals. I think sadistic and cruel dog murderers are a bigger threat to society than drug users.

[microgood]

I guess drug dealers should just consider the cost of pit-bulls to be a business expense.

You are looking at this wrong. An innocent animal should not be punished for the crimes of his owner.

Any cruel sadistic subhuman that shoots an innocent dog should go to prison. After all, they are a bigger threat to our society than a cocaine dealer.

[ColdWater]

You are looking at this wrong. An innocent animal should not be punished for the crimes of his owner. Any cruel sadistic subhuman that shoots an innocent dog should go to prison.

You mean you would not shoot a dog that is attacking your self or your child?

[ColdWater]

You would send this 78 year old to prison?

http://www.oregonlive.com/news/index.ssf/2009/08/man_shoots_pit_bull_who_attack.html

[microgood]

Nope. Of course that has nothing to do with this case. When you go into a home that has a dog, the police have a moral responsiblity to do everything they can to protect life, all life and if that means telling the owner from outside the house get the dog under control before they enter. If they do not, they are essentially murderers, since the dog is supposed to protect the owner from intruders anyway.

Protecting the life of that animal is more important than busting the owner with drugs.

The fact they do not think that way is what is so disturbing. They have a callous disregard for innocent life, which makes them evil and dangerous.

[Mister Da]

Legalization & legitimate manufacture/sale of all so-called illicit drugs is the only viable way to dry up the drug trade. Drug ABUSE is a health problem. Responsible, recreational drug use harms no one, as can be witnessed by the millions of people who drink alcohol (a recreational drug) safely & responsibly for the sole purpose of getting high. (Nobody really believes beer or scotch actually tastes good. It's the buzz they are after).

Removing criminal penalties decriminalizes millions of otherwise law-abiding citizens who have done nothing more that have an enjoyable experience.

When the tyrants criminalize the consumption of meat, will you be a criminal or a vegan?

[ColdWater]

Drug ABUSE is a health problem.

I don't think legalizing crack cocaine will help with the problem ...