When one is Holier-than-Thou is is merely telling the TRUTH - not NAME calling.
Perhaps you are a DAUGHTER of perdition?)Posted on 01/22/2010 6:06:18 PM PST by restornu
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You are FREE to say just about what ever you wish.
You are FREE to pay 10% of your net income to support it.
You are FREE to agree or disagree.
You are FREE to start your OWN website where the pesky ANTI's are elimated BEFORE they get to post facts about MORMONism
Heck; you are FREE to start your own religion if you want:
So - what's your REAL beef?
The Church of JESUS CHRIST of Latter-day Saints
What were you saying about MISLEADING?
So - what’s your REAL beef?
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HEY Kibblems here is the bits....
Where’s the Beef?:)
Beef! beef!
I want beef I have no thumbs!:)
Is THIS better?
Since you have such disdain for FREEREPUBLIC...
"In all due respect this site should consider the name Conservative Republic, or even the Principle Republic."
Kinda like being MORMON!
“I have learned for myself that Presbyterianism is not true.”
17 It no sooner appeared than I found myself delivered from the enemy which held me bound. When the light rested upon me I saw two Personages, whose brightness and glory defy all description, standing above me in the air. One of them spake unto me, calling me by name and said, pointing to the other—This is My Beloved Son. Hear Him!
18 My object in going to inquire of the Lord was to know which of all the sects was right, that I might know which to join. No sooner, therefore, did I get possession of myself, so as to be able to speak, than I asked the Personages who stood above me in the light, which of all the sects was right (for at this time it had never entered into my heart that all were wrong)—and which I should join.
19 I was answered that I must join none of them, for they were all wrong; and the Personage who addressed me said that all their creeds were an abomination in his sight; that those professors were all corrupt; that: “they draw near to me with their lips, but their hearts are far from me, they teach for doctrines the commandments of men, having a form of godliness, but they deny the power thereof.”
20 He again forbade me to join with any of them; and many other things did he say unto me, which I cannot write at this time. When I came to myself again, I found myself lying on my back, looking up into heaven. When the light had departed, I had no strength; but soon recovering in some degree, I went home. And as I leaned up to the fireplace, mother inquired what the matter was. I replied, “Never mind, all is well—I am well enough off.” I then said to my mother,
Joseph Smith continues: "for the teachers of religion of the different sects understood the same passages of scripture so differently as to destroy all confidence in settling the question by an appeal to the Bible" (from Pearl of Great Price, Joseph Smith-History 1:12). "What is it that inspires professors of Christianity generally with a hope of salvation? It is that smooth, sophisticated influence of the devil, by which he deceives the whole world" (Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, p.270).Questions put to Joseph Smith: "'Do you believe the Bible?' [Smith:]'If we do, we are the only people under heaven that does, for there are none of the religious sects of the day that do'. When asked 'Will everybody be damned, but Mormons'? [Smith replied] 'Yes, and a great portion of them, unless they repent, and work righteousness." (Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, p. 119).Brigham Young stated this repeatedly: "When the light came to me I saw that all the so-called Christian world was grovelling in darkness" (Journal of Discourses 5:73); "The Christian world, so-called, are heathens as to the knowledge of the salvation of God" (Journal of Discourses 8:171); "With a regard to true theology, a more ignorant people never lived than the present so-called Christian world" (Journal of Discourses 8:199); "And who is there that acknowledges [God's] hand? ...You may wander east, west, north, and south, and you cannot find it in any church or government on the earth, except the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints" (Journal of Discourses, vol. 6, p.24); "Should you ask why we differ from other Christians, as they are called, it is simply because they are not Christians as the New Testament defines Christianity" (Journal of Discourses 10:230).Orson Pratt proclaimed: "Both Catholics and Protestants are nothing less than the 'whore of Babylon' whom the Lord denounces by the mouth of John the Revelator as having corrupted all the earth by their fornications and wickedness. Any person who shall be so corrupt as to receive a holy ordinance of the Gospel from the ministers of any of these apostate churches will be sent down to hell with them, unless they repent" (The Seer, p. 255).Pratt also said: "This great apostasy commenced about the close of the first century of the Christian era, and it has been waxing worse and worse from then until now" (Journal of Discourses, vol.18, p.44) and: "But as there has been no Christian Church on the earth for a great many centuries past, until the present century, the people have lost sight of the pattern that God has given according to which the Christian Church should be established, and they have denominated a great variety of people Christian Churches, because they profess to be ...But there has been a long apostasy, during which the nations have been cursed with apostate churches in great abundance" (Journal of Discourses, 18:172).President John Taylor stated: "Christianity...is a perfect pack of nonsense...the devil could not invent a better engine to spread his work than the Christianity of the nineteenth century." (Journal of Discourses, vol. 6, p.167); "Where shall we look for the true order or authority of God? It cannot be found in any nation of Christendom." (Journal of Discourses, 10:127).James Talmage said: "A self-suggesting interpretation of history indicates that there has been a great departure from the way of salvation as laid down by the Savior, a universal apostasy from the Church of Christ". (A Study of the Articles of Faith, p.182).President Joseph Fielding Smith said: "Doctrines were corrupted, authority lost, and a false order of religion took the place of the gospel of Jesus Christ, just as it had been the case in former dispensations, and the people were left in spiritual darkness." (Doctrines of Salvation, p.266). "For hundreds of years the world was wrapped in a veil of spiritual darkness, until there was not one fundamental truth belonging to the place of salvation ...Joseph Smith declared that in the year 1820 the Lord revealed to him that all the 'Christian' churches were in error, teaching for commandments the doctrines of men" (Doctrines of Salvation, vol. 3, p.282).More recent statements by apostle Bruce McConkie are also very clear: "Apostasy was universal...And this darkness still prevails except among those who have come to a knowledge of the restored gospel" (Doctrines of Salvation, vol 3, p.265); "Thus the signs of the times include the prevailing apostate darkness in the sects of Christendom and in the religious world in general" (The Millennial Messiah, p.403); "a perverted Christianity holds sway among the so-called Christians of apostate Christendom" (Mormon Doctrine, p.132); "virtually all the millions of apostate Christendom have abased themselves before the mythical throne of a mythical Christ whom they vainly suppose to be a spirit essence who is incorporeal uncreated, immaterial and three-in-one with the Father and Holy Spirit" (Mormon Doctrine, p.269); "Gnosticism is one of the great pagan philosophies which antedated Christ and the Christian Era and which was later commingled with pure Christianity to form the apostate religion that has prevailed in the world since the early days of that era." (Mormon Doctrine, p.316).President George Q. Cannon said: "After the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints was organized, there were only two churches upon the earth. They were known respectively as the Church of the Lamb of God and Babylon. The various organizations which are called churches throughout Christendom, though differing in their creeds and organizations, have one common origin. They all belong to Babylon" (Gospel Truth, p.324).President Wilford Woodruff stated: "the Gospel of modern Christendom shuts up the Lord, and stops all communication with Him. I want nothing to do with such a Gospel, I would rather prefer the Gospel of the dark ages, so called" (Journal of Discourses, vol. 2, p.196).
When one is Holier-than-Thou is is merely telling the TRUTH - not NAME calling.
Perhaps you are a DAUGHTER of perdition?)I am!!
I am STILL trying to find out what JOSEPH SMITH 'learned' to be UNTRUE about PRESBYTERIANism!
CAn YOU help?
You used to be one; right?
Still putting words in my mouth...
You are not a seeker of truth are you!
I am!!
I am STILL trying to find out what JOSEPH SMITH ‘learned’ to be UNTRUE about PRESBYTERIANism!
CAn YOU help?
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Dear Elsie
I would exhort you that ye would ask God, the Eternal Father, in the name of Christ, which is the Lord Jesus Christ Church?
I've evidently been bad, for HE will not tell me.
Could YOU tell ME what HE told YOU?
Or did you COVENANT not to tell in one of the Temple Rites®?
Still putting words in my mouth...
I'm TRYING not to, but you WILL not say what JS learned to be UNTRUE about PRESBYTERISNism.
Why is that; the LURKERS want to know?
No one can say that YOU are a single topic poster!
These are approbated terms to describe the 2010 defining moments which we are in and it brings clarification!
Things have changed in this nation so has a need for better communication!
Citizens have to learn what and where is “People’s Law”!
It’s not too much left and nor right somewhere in the middle
did you watch
The Political Spectrum is something one should learn the Founding Fathers knew it!
http://adlar.com/nccs/lesson_4.html
As I have stated if you really want to know what the Lord reveal to Joseph Smith it is best you pray and ask for understanding from the Lord.
The citizens in Massachusetts who want to exercise RKBA to the fullest are being deprived of their rights just as surely as were Black Americans. This is a republic, popular demand doesn't always cut it!
You describe yourself.
It doesn’t help to have people like Romney running around saying that Massachusetts and other places can ignore constitutional rights if they want to. If the voters in a state decided to go back to segregated schools would Romney support that? I don’t think so!
The citizens in Massachusetts who want to exercise RKBA to the fullest are being deprived of their rights just as surely as were Black Americans. This is a republic, popular demand doesn’t always cut it!
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Were not many of these situations set in motion before those who are elcted to an office?
Is it not up to the people to rise up and get real to fix the situation they allowed themselves to fall into?
An elected official can only do so much until they have the backing of the people to make changes.
Obama was a blessing because now the nation is waking up because they are feeling the heat instead of continuing being lulled into a false security!
The Proper Role of Government
http://adlar.com/nccs/lesson_7.html
Protecting People From the
Human Frailties of Their Rulers
http://adlar.com/nccs/lesson_8.html
Separation of Powers
http://adlar.com/nccs/lesson_10.html
The Value of Knowing Principles
http://adlar.com/nccs/lesson_3.html
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