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Sins of the Founding Fathers
Fightin Words ^ | November 18, 2009 | Walter Scott Hudson

Posted on 11/18/2009 7:12:08 AM PST by Walter Scott Hudson

When we hear Reverend Jeremiah Wright say “G-d damn American!” or listen to Van Jones demand we “give [Native Americans] the wealth,” we shake our heads and wonder how men could live in a free country and wish it less free. When I reflect on how my black father’s initiative, intelligence, and unflinching work ethic lifted our family out of a deteriorating Detroit suburb into a brighter future, I marvel at memories of him nevertheless lecturing me about “the white man” and my inherent racial disadvantage. When I speak to black friends or acquaintances, the vast majority are instinctively “progressive” regardless of lifestyle. What explains this phenomenon?

I submit that our nation has paid for the sin of racial inequality by inadvertently canonizing centralized authority as the savior of the disenfranchised. Imagine if we had gotten it right from the beginning, if there had been no slavery, if “all men are created equal” had truly meant all. How much more might our nation have been blessed? Black people in this country believe in government because government was necessary to impose that which free men would not rightly recognize on their own. As a result, a grand precedent has been set in their hearts and minds. Government is always right. Bigger government is always better. Government will provide what “the white man” will not. This is a horrific tragedy, arguably worse than the slavery which led to it, as it perpetuates a less direct slavery over a far broader population.

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TOPICS: Government; History; Politics; Society
KEYWORDS: africanamerican; black; civilrights; liberty

1 posted on 11/18/2009 7:12:08 AM PST by Walter Scott Hudson
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To: Walter Scott Hudson
Wow. Why don't we have debates and discussions like this in our public realm anymore. Or in colleges and universities?

This is SUCH an interesting point of view. Too bad it's not going to go anywhere, because it attacks the idol of government worship so carefully nurtured all these years.

Anyone who attacks statism, will be vilified.

2 posted on 11/18/2009 7:16:06 AM PST by elk
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To: Walter Scott Hudson

Very cogent analysis of the stale precedent that has led to the “plantation” mentality among so many blacks.

You want change? Then how about rejecting the class-warfare rhetoric of the marxist manipulators? Surely you realize that you are nothing more than a dialectical tool to them and that you gain nothing by trading one master for another.


3 posted on 11/18/2009 7:23:10 AM PST by IronJack (=)
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To: Walter Scott Hudson

Great article, Mr. Hudson!

Slavery was brought to this land and entrenched in it’s commerce long BEFORE this country was founded. WE inherited it -from the Europeans and Africans who BROUGHT it here.
As a new nation, WE got RID of slavery. And we as a nation have worked to improve that situation ever since.

But the whole issue of ‘slavery’ will NOT be let go of by the descendants of it’s victims. It is big $$$ business these days.


4 posted on 11/18/2009 7:38:17 AM PST by joethedrummer
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To: Walter Scott Hudson
That was a very good article, thanks for posting it. The problems associated with becoming dependent upon the federal government is something that is experienced most by the very minorities that the government has sought to protect. The surrendering of personal responsibility does as much to destroy their communities in the long term then perhaps the evils they were originally being protected from. While due to historical events that dependence was necessary for both blacks and Native Americans at one time, it outlives it's usefulness.
5 posted on 11/18/2009 8:20:15 AM PST by dog breath
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To: Walter Scott Hudson

Democrats were the party of slavery. Christian abolitionists and Kansas land owners came together to form the Republican party because they wanted to put an end to the abomination of slavery.

Today’s democrats are still working to take away freedom, only on a much larger scale. It’s called socialism. I call it slavery lite. Taking the labors of some to give to others.

They see themselves as the old plantation overseers did. They see themselves as being above their charges, demanding respect while they belittle us, call black Republicans uncle tom’s, call the rest of us tea baggers and look down their long noses at all of us.

Republicans are still working for freedom from the democratic party of slavery. Republicans are fight for freedom for all.


6 posted on 11/18/2009 8:27:01 AM PST by GloriaJane (http://www.last.fm/user/GloriaJane)
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To: Walter Scott Hudson

“all men are created equal” Not true all men are created it’s the man that makes him self equal.


7 posted on 11/18/2009 10:07:29 AM PST by Vaduz
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To: Walter Scott Hudson
The observation that our nation has paid dearly for the failure of the founders to eliminate and forbid slavery is painfully obvious. Unfortunately it will become painfully obvious that the current occupant of the White House and the party that got him there, are likewise in err.
8 posted on 11/18/2009 1:22:03 PM PST by The Truth Will Make You Free
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To: joethedrummer

How did Africans bring slavery here? Don’t recall any African ships sailing across the Atlantic during slave days.


9 posted on 11/18/2009 1:28:50 PM PST by Shade2
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To: GloriaJane
But blacks will never embrace Republicans so long as Republicans verbally express so much animosity toward blacks.
10 posted on 11/18/2009 1:31:43 PM PST by Shade2
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To: Shade2

Slavery was a practice in Africa which enabled its export here. Africans sold their slaves to Europeans.


11 posted on 11/18/2009 4:07:12 PM PST by Walter Scott Hudson (fightinwords.us)
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To: Shade2

I am not immediately aware of any significant animosity from Republicans toward blacks. Since you claim there is “so much” a few examples would seem in order.

Conversely, I don’t understand how many blacks do not recognize the animosity they receive from Democrats and progressives who opening patronize them, insult their intelligence, and treat them like children.


12 posted on 11/18/2009 4:11:05 PM PST by Walter Scott Hudson (fightinwords.us)
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To: Shade2

The demand was there and Africans are the ones who supplied it.


13 posted on 11/18/2009 4:38:39 PM PST by anglian
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To: Shade2
"But blacks will never embrace Republicans so long as Republicans verbally express so much animosity toward blacks."

I just don't understand that statement. All this animosity that you referred to.

I guess I must have missed it somewhere in between the democrats calling black Republicans uncle tom's and bad mouthing Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas and the nasty way they talked about Condi Rice and calling Republican Michael Steel an Oreo, and SEIU democrat union thugs attacking and beating a conservative black man down into the street at a tea party event. And the list goes on and on and on.

And we really don't want to go back in time to right after the civil war when the democrats, the party of slavery, started the group called "The Red Shirts" in order to murder blacks who dared to try to be elected to public office and the Republican's who dared to try to help blacks get elected.

And let's not bring up the fact that after the democrats realized that openly committing murder as "The Red Shirts" only ended up with them finding themselves at the end of a rope, that they then founded the KKK where they could hide under their white sheets and commit all manor of crimes against blacks and any Republicans who dared to try to help them.

Here, You might enjoy this. It's from around the time that Christian abolitionists and Kansas land owners first formed the Republican party. Old John Brown, an abolitionist and baptist preacher, gave his life to put an end to the abomination of slavery. And during the civil war northern soldiers (those nasty ole Republicans) sang this old song about John Brown as they marched off to battle. After "Julia Ward Howe" heard Union troops singing this, the original version of the song, she wrote her own words to it's tune. Soon after, her version was published in the "Atlantic Monthly" as "The Battle Hymn Of The Republic"

"John Brown's Body"

14 posted on 11/18/2009 10:11:30 PM PST by GloriaJane (http://www.last.fm/user/GloriaJane)
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To: Walter Scott Hudson
What is one of the more common reasons posts are deleted on this, probably the largest conservative online community? Comments deemed “racist”. Go to a post about something bad done by an individual who happens to be black and observe the racial generalizations. Reverend James Manning is a loon who express hope that white Americans will go to black communities and riot. He is loved by Freepers.

The posters on American Renaissance are overwhelmingly conservative and quite likely Republican. An openly white racist is far more likely to be Republican than Democrat. The Council of Conservative Citizens is a white nationalist/white separatist organization. Their very name is self explanatory. Republicans/conservatives are more likely than anyone to denounce any achievement by a black person as being the result of Affirmative Action or claim any bad thing done by a black person to a white person as racially motivated even if there is not concrete evidence on both counts. Conservatives seem most likely to embrace the notion that black intellectual underachievement is to a significant degree genetic. Charles Murray was raised a in a Republic household and turned Libertarian (which is conservative). Why would Rush Limbaugh, the head of the conservative movement, bring up race in a sports conversation that had nothing to do with race? Why are so many conservatives playing the ‘reverse race card’?

Reverend Peterson says that if whites disappear, America would become a ghetto. Even if this is true, what would be the natural reaction of the average black person to black conservatives after hearing this statement or Larry Elder saying that blacks are more racist than everyone else? Or Lashawn Barber expressing the belief that black intellectual underachievement is genetic.

http://lashawnbarber.com/archives/2007/08/16/academic-achievement-gap-try-try-again/

What you state about Democrats is covert and less likely recognized even if equally or more racist. Human nature tends to embrace patronage faster than criticism. Patronage, as bad as it is, is not animosity and tends to not have the same effect.

15 posted on 11/20/2009 8:57:38 AM PST by Shade2
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To: Walter Scott Hudson

http://www.hartford-hwp.com/archives/30/013.html


16 posted on 11/20/2009 9:04:02 AM PST by Shade2
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To: GloriaJane

http://www.hartford-hwp.com/archives/30/013.html


17 posted on 11/20/2009 9:04:41 AM PST by Shade2
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To: Shade2

I know about white slavery, my 9 th great grandfather, Jacques (Jacob) Remy came here under the indentured slave system. He was a French huguenot who’s father, Pierre Remy Count Raoul de Remi and also his grandfather Sir Jacques Remy de Ivory, were both executed by the Catholic Church
of France for being members of the French Huguenots.

Jacques (Jacob) Remy only escaped execution by slipping into Germany and hiding under the protection of his cousin the German Prince. He then found his way to England where he and his first wife Francoise sold themselves into indentured slavery in order to gain passage to America.

Francoise died on ship, but Jacques (Jacob) Remy settled in Virginia 1654 under the “Indenture System” bound to “Nicolas Spencer Esq., who was appointed Secretary of the Colony of Virginia during the pleasure of King Charles II 1606-1702 Mar 2, 1654.” Once in Virginia, the spelling of his last name was changed to Ramey and he married Mary Spencer Miles. Their great great grandson, my 7th great grandfather, John Ramey moved his family to Kentucky. Then my great grandfather John Ramey moved his family from Kentucky to Ohio. And that’s how I got here LOL

The article you posted tries to excuse Africans for their part in the abomination of slavery. As if it wasn’t so bad that they sold their neighboring tribes to European’s who then brought them here and sold them. But they didn’t just walk into their neighboring villages and ask would you like to come along with me. No! They raided and took by force unwilling people from their homes. They kept them in horrid conditions not fit the devil himself until the ships came to carry them here.

I’ve seen a documentary that showed where and how they were kept while waiting to be shipped out. There is NO innocence in the people who stole them from their homes and kept them in such squealer and shameful conditions. They are just as guilty as any slave owner for the crimes against those poor people.

And worse, is the fact that slavery is still practiced in Africa. If their owners don’t beat them they still have NO free will and their freedom must be bought and paid for as if they were nothing more then animals. It’s disgraceful.

And this part of the article: “In other words, white servitude was the historic proving ground for the mechanisms of control and subordination used in Afro-American slavery. The plantation pass, the fugitive slave law, the use of the overseer and the house servant and the Uncle Tom, the forced separation of parents and children on the auction block and the sexual exploitation of servant women, the whipping post, the slave chains, the branding iron; all these mechanism were tried out and perfected first on white men and white women. Masters also developed a theory of internal white racism and used the traditional Sambo and minstrel stereotypes to characterize white servants who were said to be good natured and faithful but biologically inferior and subject to laziness, immorality, and crime. And all of this would seem to suggest that nothing substantial can be said about the mechanisms of black bondage in America except against the background and within the perspective of the system of white bondage in America.”

Read it closely and you will see within it things democrats are still doing today. Their elitist plantation attitude toward the folks. (as O’Riely says) How they look down their long noses, find middle Americas to be inferior and treat everything about us with disdain.

The democratic party is the party of slavery. They own it. They own the brutality of the horrid things their ancestors did to black Americans. But they’ve twisted the history of their party and hide behind the lies.

And I don’t like this part of the article: “And all of this would seem to suggest that nothing substantial can be said about the mechanisms of black bondage in America except against the background and within the perspective of the system of white bondage in America.”

I don’t like it or agree that nothing substantial can be said about the mechanisms of black bondage in America. The substantial things about the mechanisms of black bondage, can be found in newspaper archives from way back.

I read an article about three years ago that would make anyone’s blood both chill and boil at the same time. I stumbled across it. It was evidence, a part of a court case someone was bringing against the democratic party for the atrocities done to black slaves, and someone had posted the case online. The old news paper article told of how the slave owners, skinned alive a young black girl who had escaped before they brutally murdered her.

That was part of the mechanisms of black bondage. Torture, murder and terror to keep the others in line. It reminds me of the terrorists. Isn’t that what they do? Use torture, murder and terror to put fear in the hearts of others.


18 posted on 11/20/2009 10:37:45 AM PST by GloriaJane (http://www.last.fm/user/GloriaJane)
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To: Shade2

Do you believe there is institutionalized racism in the Republican party or advocated by the Republican party? Do you think Republicans, in general, hate black people, would not welcome them into their ranks, and believe them intrinsically inferior?


19 posted on 11/22/2009 5:50:34 AM PST by Walter Scott Hudson (fightinwords.us)
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