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Vacuous Verisimilitude; Or, V has arrived
http://wmbriggs.com/blog/?p=1303 ^ | William M. Briggs

Posted on 11/09/2009 4:44:21 AM PST by mattstat

How did this show get past the ABC censors? How did the folks in Hollywood—good Progressives, all—let this program sneak onto the air? Were movie studio heads so distracted by attending yet another Washington fund raiser that a genuine alternate viewpoint was allowed to air?

We may never know, but we can be grateful for the remake of V. Because it turns upside down every well known Left Coast trope.

A Catholic priest (Joel Gretsch) has doubts. No, not those kinds. He distrusts the milky language of the Visitors and says so in his sermons. A Monsegnior insists the Vs are part of Heaven’s plan. The priest answers, “Rattlesnakes are God’s creatures, too. Doesn’t mean they’re good for us.” The Monsegnior counters that the people are grateful for the Vs appearance. Reply: “Their world’s in bad shape, father. Who wouldn’t welcome a savior right now?…[And] under the right conditions and with enough time, gratitude can morph into worship. Or worse. Devotion.”

He admonishes his credulous flock, “We’re all so quick to jump on the bandwagon…but let us at least examine it and make sure it’s something we want to get on.” The strangest thing of all is that the priest is portrayed sympathetically! There’s not a choir boy in sight.

The evil leader lizard...

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TOPICS: TV/Movies
KEYWORDS: tv; v

1 posted on 11/09/2009 4:44:22 AM PST by mattstat
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To: mattstat

Another “It’s a cookbook!” moment?


2 posted on 11/09/2009 4:50:40 AM PST by JimRed ("Hey, hey, Teddy K., hot enough down there today?" TERM LIMITS, NOW AND FOREVER!)
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To: mattstat

“O is V”


3 posted on 11/09/2009 4:58:07 AM PST by grobdriver (Proud Member, Party Of No! No Socialism - No Fascism - Nobama - No Way!)
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To: mattstat

It’s a great show and extremely well done, with excellent actors. I can’t imagine how it got past the Obama censors, though.

Watch the first part of the pilot show...there’s a scene where Ana (”The One”) is being welcomed and is walking down a wide hallway in a formal building of some sort with a policeman standing on one side of the hallway, another policeman on the other, and a couple of her retinue walking behind her. She has her head up. It is an exact restaging of the photo where Obama is slithering along a hallway in the Capitol Bldg shortly after the inauguration, his head stuck up in the air, his eyes semi-closed, and a weird smile on his face. Even the placement of the police officers is identical.

Ha! Great job!


4 posted on 11/09/2009 4:59:17 AM PST by livius
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To: mattstat

ABC may join Fox News at the whipping post.


5 posted on 11/09/2009 4:59:55 AM PST by ClearCase_guy (Play the Race Card -- lose the game.)
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To: mattstat
I'm suspicious that Hollywood would be that up front about it. Maybe the twist will be that the Vs are "Mavericks" wanting to "Drill, baby, drill" in the "Alien Native Wildlife Reserve" that was set up to protect humans from exploitation. They wave Obama at us for a few episodes and then switch to Hollywood's twisted version of Sarah Palin.
6 posted on 11/09/2009 4:59:58 AM PST by KarlInOhio (Any similarity between V and the Obama admin is just that of Obama and any other totalitarian regime)
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To: grobdriver
If 3rd rate Hollywood pap is what it takes to enlighten the ignorant masses of the grand usurpation of power foisted by Obama, then so be it. I approve.
7 posted on 11/09/2009 5:00:37 AM PST by I Buried My Guns (Buy Lots Of Ammo Today)
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To: mattstat

The 1983 “V” is even more blatant in it’s depiction of similarities between the Nazi’s and the Visitors. I thought that even with the old technology special effects, it did a better job of giving us a wake up slap in the face.


8 posted on 11/09/2009 5:01:32 AM PST by Big_Harry ( Thank God I am an "Infidel"!)
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To: mattstat

What is a funny thought is of combining the two totally different versions of V, especially V for Vendetta.

And I think it will happen soon, the population of America will all don the mask, and we will observe the fall of tyranny.


9 posted on 11/09/2009 5:02:01 AM PST by Eye of Unk ("If there must be trouble, let it be in my day, that my child may have peace." T. Paine)
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To: Eye of Unk
I agree.

I like quite a few aspects of "V for Vendetta". Of course, the bad guys are a rightwing Christian totalitarian dictatorship, and I think that is laughable. But the idea that when voters make bad choices, they can get saddled with oppressive government, is a valuable point. The idea that people can take back the power through massive demonstration is a good point. And the idea that people should not fear their government, but that governments should fear their people, is a very good point.

10 posted on 11/09/2009 5:09:50 AM PST by ClearCase_guy (Play the Race Card -- lose the game.)
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To: grobdriver
O is V

Great tag line!

11 posted on 11/09/2009 5:16:24 AM PST by outofstyle (There's a rake at the gates of Hell tonight)
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To: mattstat

The female lead V sure is attractive, tho. I wonder if seduction might not get them faster to their goals? Hehe.


12 posted on 11/09/2009 5:16:25 AM PST by 2harddrive
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To: I Buried My Guns
Hmm... envisioning said masses scratching asses and thinking, "What is "O"?"
Better spell it out for them - "Obama is V"
13 posted on 11/09/2009 5:21:06 AM PST by grobdriver (Proud Member, Party Of No! No Socialism - No Fascism - Nobama - No Way!)
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To: JimRed; All

I hate to disappoint you all, but, I heard that the writer of the V pilot has been replaced.


14 posted on 11/09/2009 5:22:08 AM PST by Strutt9
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To: Strutt9

“I hate to disappoint you all, but, I heard that the writer of the V pilot has been replaced.”

So now we can expect the V to be portrayed as Republicans and Ana’s boss will bear a striking resemblence to Sarah Palin.


15 posted on 11/09/2009 5:29:10 AM PST by Hacklehead (Liberalism is the art of taking what works, breaking it, and then blaming conservatives.)
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To: mattstat; GRRRRR; upstanding; marine86297; kidd; Bokababe; GodBlessRonaldReagan; LaybackLenny; ...
Ping!
16 posted on 11/09/2009 5:43:07 AM PST by SonOfDarkSkies (Rush on Obama: "immature, narcissistic and inexperienced")
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To: mattstat

oh boy.. is this the show I have been hearing about?

Keeps us Jack Bauer nuts happy til Jan (and will we have 24? heard our boy might have had jail rock blues)

thanks for thread BUMP


17 posted on 11/09/2009 5:47:57 AM PST by DollyCali (Don't tell GOD how big your storm is -- Tell the storm how B-I-G your God is!you)
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To: Strutt9
From what I have heard, it is not uncommon for the original writer to be replaced with a more "operational" writer once a series has been established.

IIRC, only three installments of the show with be aired in the fall and, depending on its success, it will start again in March. The first 3 installments, one tomorrow night and the last next week, have obviously already been produced. If they are successful, future installments will build on the story...not send it in a completely different direction.

18 posted on 11/09/2009 5:57:24 AM PST by SonOfDarkSkies (Rush on Obama: "immature, narcissistic and inexperienced")
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To: mattstat

Just as conservatives can easily see parallels to Obama, liberals could just as easily see them as parallels to a Republican administration. Those in power always claim they are working for the greater good while their opposition sees evil lurking. Think “blood for oil” or “voodoo economics.” Probably the best argument for an an Obama comparison is the fawning media which we’ve never seen for Republicans, but DUmmies continually make the ridiculous claim of media bias in favor of Republicans. Liberals might view the show as Republican invaders from outer space with the reporter being from Fox News.

I don’t think the writers at ABC are conscioulsy attempting to draw comparisons between V and O, but it’s nearly impossible not to do so when viewers see the obvious lies and distortions being peddled by the current administration which are rarely questioned by the MSM. My hope is that a few people who support O will watch V for entertainment value, notice the unintended allegories, and make better choices at the polls.

OTOH, I have to agree with others here that the writers may refocus their efforts to draw negative parallels to conservatives. The easiest way to do it will be to portray conservative politicians as collaborators with the aliens, not to mention a “gullible Christians” angle. I don’t know how many epsisodes are already “in the can,” but it shouldn’t take too long to find out if V starts covering for O.


19 posted on 11/09/2009 6:42:25 AM PST by Fetid Facts (Under Democrats, "The law is a ass--a idiot.")
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To: Hacklehead

Right you are... Man Free Republic is very slow... or its’ our internet provider having problems.


20 posted on 11/09/2009 6:52:09 AM PST by Strutt9
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To: Strutt9

FreeRepublic is running slow here too.

Nothing else is, so it’s got to be either our IP or maybe “Big Brother”. ;^)


21 posted on 11/09/2009 7:02:30 AM PST by airborne (I'm from an older generation. When killing the enemy was a good thing!)
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To: SonOfDarkSkies

please put me on the ping list?

will there be a live thread?


22 posted on 11/09/2009 7:04:22 AM PST by DollyCali (Don't tell GOD how big your storm is -- Tell the storm how B-I-G your God is!you)
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To: DollyCali
You're on the list, Dolly.

And, yes, there will be live threads (last week there were several).

And if you want to review last week's episode, it is broadcast online at Hulu.com.

23 posted on 11/09/2009 7:13:05 AM PST by SonOfDarkSkies (Rush on Obama: "immature, narcissistic and inexperienced")
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To: SonOfDarkSkies

oh, it already started? is there a place to see the first (or more?) episodes?


24 posted on 11/09/2009 7:25:43 AM PST by DollyCali (Don't tell GOD how big your storm is -- Tell the storm how B-I-G your God is!you)
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To: SonOfDarkSkies

sorry.. I didn’t read the entire thing.. that is what I get for doing FR, Facebook,Email & dishes at the same time


25 posted on 11/09/2009 7:26:30 AM PST by DollyCali (Don't tell GOD how big your storm is -- Tell the storm how B-I-G your God is!you)
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To: DollyCali

See the link in my last comment to you.


26 posted on 11/09/2009 7:26:40 AM PST by SonOfDarkSkies (Rush on Obama: "immature, narcissistic and inexperienced")
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To: Fetid Facts

I read somewhere it was written to be Bush Bashing.


27 posted on 11/09/2009 7:55:39 AM PST by razorback-bert (We used to call them astronomical numbers. Now we should call them economical numbers.)
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To: grobdriver; outofstyle; Eye of Unk; Big_Harry
"Better spell it out for them - "Obama is V""

Either way does a disservice to the "original" V (V = Victory)...a fighter against oppression who fomented an uprising against an oscumbo-style/NAZI-style dictatorship in England.

"O is a V" or "Obama is a V" is a little closer to the truth. The V's (V = Visitors) in this series are illegal aliens from a far-off country just like oscumbo....

28 posted on 11/09/2009 1:58:44 PM PST by SuperLuminal (Where is another agitator for republicanism like Sam Adams when we need him?)
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To: SuperLuminal

He needs a face peel!


29 posted on 11/09/2009 2:23:01 PM PST by Big_Harry ( Thank God I am an "Infidel"!)
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