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Vanity -- Question re: Fort Hood shootings
11/6/09 | malkee

Posted on 11/05/2009 10:50:54 PM PST by malkee

It has been reported that the primary suspect in Thursday's shootings has been in the military for up to 20 years -- and was entirely educated by the military, ending up as a psychiatrist.

Could someone in the military please explain exactly what responsibilities a doctor educated by the military has, in terms of "paying back" his education? In other words, did he HAVE to stay in the military for eight years after 911 if he was so appalled by the way Muslims were treated?

It is bad enough to think this guy joined the military with no attention or apparent awareness that he some day might be required to go into battle. It is worse to think he stayed in the army with the intention of "paying back" the "Muslim aggressors."

An explanation and further discussion is appreciated.


TOPICS: Military/Veterans
KEYWORDS: forthood; hasan; islam; jihad; military; nasan; quransyndrome

1 posted on 11/05/2009 10:50:55 PM PST by malkee
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This fully twisted chump won't be paying back his funds for education. Thankfully he's still alive.........to face justice on this planet.

God Bless the families and friends of the fallen. Always.

2 posted on 11/05/2009 10:54:47 PM PST by NoRedTape
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To: NoRedTape

I’m also curious if he’ll face a court martial — and possible speedy execution. If there’s no court martial, you know something’s up. I heard one talking head spouting off about “federal crimes” tonight on TV. Put my guard up!


3 posted on 11/05/2009 10:58:25 PM PST by malkee (Actually I'm an ex-smoker--more than three years now -- But I think about it every day.)
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To: malkee
If you sign up with the military or a police department you should understand you may be put in harms way. The same holds for other occupations. High voltage linemen come to mind. Don't look for the benefits if you are not willing to take the risk.
4 posted on 11/05/2009 11:00:52 PM PST by blackbart.223 (I live in Northern Nevada. Reid doesn't represent me.)
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To: malkee

A military officer can resign his commision at any time[requires processing time, could be months]. He of course would be required to pay back said education if provided by the Military.

As for enlisted. No matter the years you’ve signed up, your on the hook for a 8 year contreact[Active, and inactive total].


5 posted on 11/05/2009 11:01:24 PM PST by BGHater ("real price of every thing ... is the toil and trouble of acquiring it")
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To: malkee
He got his medical degree from the Uniformed Services University of Health Sciences at Bethesda. It is basically a medical school run by the military.

Depending on the residency they choose and other optional training they receive, I think USUHS grads usually incur between 8 and 12 years of obligated service after graduation.

This guy hadn't been in for 20 years. I think he finished undergrad in the late 90's and USUHS in '02.

6 posted on 11/05/2009 11:01:49 PM PST by USNBandit (sarcasm engaged at all times)
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To: USNBandit

Thanks for that. Also interested in your opinion as to whether he’ll face court martial.


7 posted on 11/05/2009 11:04:05 PM PST by malkee (Actually I'm an ex-smoker--more than three years now -- But I think about it every day.)
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To: malkee

Can someone please tell me what became of initial reports of two other suspects?


8 posted on 11/05/2009 11:05:28 PM PST by over3Owithabrain
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To: over3Owithabrain
"Can someone please tell me what became of initial reports of two other suspects?"

They were detained and released. If they were released it would be apparent they were not complecent.

9 posted on 11/05/2009 11:11:57 PM PST by blackbart.223 (I live in Northern Nevada. Reid doesn't represent me.)
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To: malkee
It will depend on whether there were any civilian dead, who they were, and whether the military defers to the U.S. Attorney in that district.

If he killed any of the civilian Dept. of the Army security personnel he would be looking at an aggravated federal murder charge, the same thing that got McVeigh a death penalty.

10 posted on 11/05/2009 11:16:36 PM PST by USNBandit (sarcasm engaged at all times)
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To: malkee
Muslims demand special privileges and we have an administration that is willing to grant special privileges.
11 posted on 11/05/2009 11:29:02 PM PST by oyez ( damnant quod non intelligunt)
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To: malkee

There are those among the brotherhood of Veterans who would say that the prospect of being at Levenworth for life is a fate worse than death. This guy will most assuredly get Court Martialed - it will start with an Article 32 investigation and then they’ll do the whole trial - then sentencing. As I recall, it is rare for a person to be executed - and I may be wrong about this, but I don’t think it’s happened since WWII... - BTW, even for Murder. However, given the number of people killed - who knows... Watch the libtard lawyers come crawling out of the walls to defend this pond scum for free though...


12 posted on 11/05/2009 11:36:04 PM PST by GunnyB (Once a Marine, Always a Marine)
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To: GunnyB
As I recall, it is rare for a person to be executed - and I may be wrong about this, but I don’t think it’s happened since WWII... - BTW, even for Murder.

The last one was in 1961, for the rape and attempted murder of an 11 year old Austrian girl. There are currently nine military personnel on death row.

13 posted on 11/05/2009 11:43:51 PM PST by Bubba Ho-Tep ("More weight!"--Giles Corey)
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To: malkee
Well,..there is a thread regarding execution:

THE U.S. MILITARY DEATH PENALTY (lethal injection)

14 posted on 11/06/2009 12:09:03 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach ( Support Geert Wilders)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
I heard General Scales tell Greta from 18 to paid through residency the US taxpayer paid out over $500,000. to educate and train him.

If he got a poor proformance report he was done in the Miltary.

15 posted on 11/06/2009 2:54:35 AM PST by scooby321
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To: BGHater
I think you are correct about resigning your commission however, if you go to a Military academy you are on the hook for five years. If you go to other ,say medical then you are generally on the hook one for one for however many years the Military paid for your school plus one.
16 posted on 11/06/2009 3:02:33 AM PST by mad_as_he$$ (Beneath this mask there is an idea, Mr. Creedy, and ideas are bulletproof. V for victory)
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To: over3Owithabrain
Apparently there was friendly fire causalities. I suspect at this point they were guys returning fire and ht some others. They have been released.
17 posted on 11/06/2009 3:04:16 AM PST by mad_as_he$$ (Beneath this mask there is an idea, Mr. Creedy, and ideas are bulletproof. V for victory)
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To: NoRedTape

Why wait til a court marshal, it seems like they should have killed him now rather than later? If it seems a done deal, why wait, the only reason I can think might be if he were on psych drugs, of course that doesn’t absolve him but it might lead to a few answers and new rules.


18 posted on 11/06/2009 3:16:56 AM PST by RayTheSpook
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