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Surrender, Genocide… or What?
http://gatesofvienna.blogspot.com/2008/04/surrender-genocide-or-what.html ^ | El Inglés

Posted on 10/31/2009 5:36:52 PM PDT by ventanax5

A few months ago, I wrote “The Danish Civil War”, a fictional scenario which served to structure a consideration of various issues relating to the rise of Islam in Europe and the likely consequences thereof. The essay finished with the conclusion that Islam constituted an existential threat to the survival of European civilization, and that Islam’s influence on Europe therefore needed to be eliminated. It further concluded that, logically speaking, the various ways of achieving this goal could be broadly subdivided into three categories:

1) inducing Muslims to leave of their own free will, 2) mass deportations, and 3) genocide.

(Hereinafter referred to as options one, two and three, respectively)

This final conclusion was delivered as dispassionately as possible due to a desire to present the situation objectively, as if an alien super-intelligence were viewing the conflicts of various warring tribes of hairless apes. If I am correct in arguing that the number of Muslims in Europe must be reduced to no more than a fraction of its current value, then the three options I discussed are the only three options for achieving this goal. We may consider all three to be morally abhorrent and decide to submit to Islam rather than avail ourselves of any of them, but that does not alter the brute analysis of what could, in principle, be done in response to the Islamization of Europe.

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TOPICS: History; Politics; Religion
KEYWORDS: britian; europe; genocide; islam; israel; muslims; separation; wot

1 posted on 10/31/2009 5:36:52 PM PDT by ventanax5
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To: ventanax5

Europe as we have known it is doomed.

In our lifetimes, the cathedrals of Europe will become mosques.

In a century, there will be less than 10% non-Muslims in Europe, as more and more Europeans convert to Islam rather than put up with dhimmi status.

The USA won’t look like that. We WILL fight back.


2 posted on 10/31/2009 5:53:29 PM PDT by Travis McGee (---www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com---)
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To: ventanax5

My wife, whose family still lives in Italy and England, has said to me that the moment it looks like Islamic people are about to take over, the nice-nice smiley faces of the moment will be replaced by the camps, pogroms, genocide, and forced deportations of the more traditional European heritage. Once the fighting starts, they tell me, expect the Europeans to revert to form and do the same thing to the Moslems that the Europeans have always done to troublesome minorities. The survivors will be shipped across the Mediterranean Sea.

At least that’s what they say. We’ll get to see whether or not it’s true soon enough.


3 posted on 10/31/2009 5:53:53 PM PDT by redpoll
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To: Travis McGee

I know I will.


4 posted on 10/31/2009 5:56:00 PM PDT by Lurker (The avalanche has begun. The pebbles no longer have a vote.)
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To: redpoll

What are they going to beat them up with? Sticks & stones?

Spitballs?


5 posted on 10/31/2009 5:56:39 PM PDT by Radix (Obama represents CHAINS for posterity.)
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To: redpoll
My wife, whose family still lives in Italy and England, has said to me that the moment it looks like Islamic people are about to take over, the nice-nice smiley faces of the moment will be replaced by the camps, pogroms, genocide, and forced deportations of the more traditional European heritage

I doubt the elderly white Christian Europeans will be able to pull it off. The only people having children in Europe are Muslim. Demography is Destiny.
6 posted on 10/31/2009 5:58:14 PM PDT by Kozak (USA 7/4/1776 to 1/20/2009 Reqiescat in Pace)
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To: redpoll
Well. Talk is cheap. The Europeans have for the most part voluntarily disarmed themselves in defiance of all historical reality. The ruling class appears to be more concerned with looting the US in the name of climate control than anything else. We shall see.
7 posted on 10/31/2009 6:04:10 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: ventanax5

Jeeze, riveting stuff, even for us anti-Islamic extremists.


8 posted on 10/31/2009 6:13:00 PM PDT by BobL
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To: redpoll

I don’t see Euro pensioners pushing walkers manning any barricades.

The young muzzies are the future streetfighters. If anybody “gets on the train,” it will be elderly Euros who won’t convert to Islam.

Young Euros will just surrender and convert.


9 posted on 10/31/2009 6:29:24 PM PDT by Travis McGee (---www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com---)
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To: redpoll

There are those who think the Christian world will end up having to use its still-superior nuclear firepower on the Muslim world — or face being overrun. I don’t know that I am ready to go that far. But this IS an existential struggle, to be sure!


10 posted on 10/31/2009 6:40:21 PM PDT by USALiberty
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To: Travis McGee

I feel silly saying this but The French will not go down with out a fight, and they will win. I don’t think the Germans will either.


11 posted on 10/31/2009 6:50:12 PM PDT by BBell
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To: redpoll

I agree. The Europeans can get nasty.


12 posted on 10/31/2009 6:52:52 PM PDT by BBell
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To: BBell

Maybe the muslims will win in Europe.


13 posted on 10/31/2009 7:39:46 PM PDT by ventanax5
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To: ventanax5

Maybe but when your backs against a wall you have no where to turn to.


14 posted on 10/31/2009 8:16:54 PM PDT by BBell
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Islam's influence on Europe therefore needed to be eliminated. It further concluded that, logically speaking, the various ways of achieving this goal could be broadly subdivided into three categories:

1) inducing Muslims to leave of their own free will, 2) mass deportations, and 3) genocide.

15 posted on 10/31/2009 9:03:20 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/__Since Jan 3, 2004__Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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To: ventanax5

4) conversion/assimilation.


16 posted on 11/01/2009 4:05:38 AM PST by Sherman Logan ("The price of freedom is the toleration of imperfections." Thomas Sowell)
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To: Travis McGee
The USA won’t look like that. We WILL fight back.

I hope you are right. But we have become this disjointed, multicultural type of Babel that shares little in common but geography. Perhaps after 50-60+ years of constant Marxist propaganda which has also been largely adopted by many on the right I'm too pessimistic but unless and until we can address the real issues and quit backing away from all that we are as a people and quit using euphemisms I see little evidence that it is true. When we unabashedly stand up for white Western culture and all that entails then there will be hope but otherwise all I see is rage against the machine with movement still going left. We are not only ideas but people too, always have been. People whose conceptualization of those ideas are what became us and this nation. These idea came not just from anyone but from white Westerners. Magna Carta, Constitution etc. As long as we continue to embrace that we are strictly a proposition nation then we are doomed to fail. For if it is ONLY ideas that bound us we are all replaceable widgets and easily defeated.

17 posted on 11/01/2009 4:28:51 AM PST by Altura Ct.
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