Posted on 10/16/2009 7:31:45 PM PDT by Federalist Patriot
Here is video of Karl Rove talking with Sean Hannity tonight about what he believes President Obama intends to do in the weeks ahead - push through ObamaCare, Cap and Trade.
Karl Rove says Seniors, Independents, and College Graduates are driving poll numbers away from Obama and the Democrats. All three groups now oppose Obama on Health Care. Rove believes the massive new spending, increasing debts, and the attempt to engineer a Government takeover of Health Care have been damaging to Obama.
Rove breaks out the whiteboard to illustrate the numbers on the Baucus bill, which he says is just a "vehicle" to get something out of the Senate Finance Committee so "Harry Reid can sit in a backroom somewhere and write the real bill" that will be brought forward.
He also believes the Obama Team's attitude is that the more moderate Democrats must be made to vote their way, even if it will result in defeat for those Democrats in November 2010 - Rove believes they think, "that's their problem." . . . (VIDEO)
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Makes perfect sense, actually. The more dependent Americans are on the Gubmint, the better the probability the Dems increase their power (even if they suffer short term setbacks).
Clearly, 0bummer is willing to lose Congress in order to get Nationalized Healtcare. That’s logical. They’ll own so much of the GDP at that point, there is no turning back. They’ll own your a$$.
I agree with that analysis. It will make the voters angry, and may even flip the house, but the real ideologues think it’s worthwhile, because they don’t see it going away once it’s down in print and made law. Obama is thinking long-term and is willing to destroy the country while he has it by the neck. Whether we like it or not, I think the whole agenda will end up down our throats, and the real challenge will be getting most of it repealed.
Rove and Bush made at least three hard pushes to ram amnesty down their base voters throat with little care about defeat up and down the ranks of Republican office holders.
I've almost nothing good to say about Obama's agenda, except that at least Team Obama is mostly working for US citizens, Bush and Rove were mostly working for the Mexican government's illegal aliens.
Let him. If passed, HC won’t start until 2013. President Palin can over turn the bill the first day in office in 2012. :) Right after that, she can over turn Cap and trade too.
Even if both the House and Senate flip, They won't be able to undo any healthcare bill that is signed into law. There won't be enough votes to override a Zero veto.
Obama Team to force Agenda even if it Means Defeat for Dems in 2010
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WOW
That is some heavy duty narcisism..
Obama-Drama-Rama
It doesn’t kick in until 2013, making the next two cycles the very biggest ones in this country’s history.
‘except that at least Team Obama is mostly working for US citizens”. your joking, right? if not, please explain to this old timer just what it is that you see that team obama is doing ‘for’ the American citizen.
BS, we can always overturn the damned health care bill if we take control of the legislature in 2010. It won’t even go into effect until 2013 and as for cap and trade I don’t think they will get it through. The moderate dimwits may just have something to say about these votes regardless of what Obammie the commie wants them to do.
It’s all about the Annointed ONE and his agenda, his legacy.
Obama probably hates Dingy Harry as much as anyone ;-) And he has got to be sick of that bum ditch Pelosi by now.
IMO, it’s called T R E A S O N!
This is true as I’ve always felt the power of the left wing is in tossing aside all those who serve no purpose.
Obama will always stay true to his ideology and that means never surrendering to anything less than his experience. And the only experience he has is his left wing ideology.
A 2/3rd vote to overturn legislation is no easy matter. No where near easy as you suggested.
What makes you think there will be an election in 2010? Voting isn’t gonna do it anymore. The fraud on the Rat side is too pervasive.
it’s not so easy to overturn it. You’d need to get 60 votes in the senate (or go nuclear and just need 51.
Thats why I’d like to see Red States Like N.dak, with 2 Lib Sen and Lib Congreman........start a pre-emptive recall
see a shot, not across the bow, send it into the bow
would flush out the RINO’s on state level also......
Perhaps I should have wrote what Obama is trying to do "to" US citizens.
My point with Bush and Rove is that in eight years, there was not a single domestic issue that they worked harder or longer for than amnesty for non US citizens, the Mexican government's illegal aliens.
agreed
bozo does not care if some Dems lose their seats , to him it is about the final agenda
Obama’s final agenda . . . his final solution for the Republic.
WOW, you sound like a true believer. Would you like to expand on the wonderful things teams Obama is working on that has been benificial for the American people?
“Team Obama is mostly working for US citizens”
That’s what they want you to think, they are really working for more votes. With the useful idiots as accomplices.
I’d like to see all yea votes impeached, bar none.
exactly! well said.
WTF are you smoking
Yeah exactly.
Team Omoslem is a bunch of commies, moslems and nazis working for US citizens?!?
We don’t need that kind of help.
PS: My role models are Mao, Hitler, and Pol Pot. Also Charles Manson and Jeffrey Dahmer. Will Rahm Emanuel (the ballerina) hire me now?
Next General Election cycle, what do you bet it will be the first in US history where two women fight for the office...Sarah Palin and the Red Queen Hillary?
Ready to riot in the streets to stop government rationing of healthcare or taxed for breating air?????
HIllary’s done.
They believed, stupidly, that granting amnesty would win all sorts of loyalty and future votes for Republicans. They did tremendous damage to Republicans and that was the biggest factor in the spectacular fall of the party from 2004 - 2008.
Which is why we hvae to fight even harder RIGHT NOW!
The fundamental problem with RINOs is that they think they can get away with what democrats can get away with. They simply don't understand the media fawning only lasts as long as they are running against a real republican.
And unless the media gives them credit, and they never will, the drones in identity politics will continue to vote democrat.
Hopefully nothing significant will pass, but I've been wondering if it does pass, then Republicans regain Congress from 2010 to 2012, just what can be stopped by refusing to fund Obamacare in 2013? Without knowing the structure of it, and whether than will be an public option, it's hard to say. But there is bound to be a new gov't bureaucracy that will need funding.
And the next Dhimmicrap in line to be leader is Durbin. Mroe Illinois machine control.
F U and nice try International man of Flubastery!
.............I’ve almost nothing good to say about Obama’s agenda, except that at least Team Obama is mostly working for US citizens, Bush and Rove were mostly working for the Mexican government’s illegal aliens.
“WTF are you smoking”
+1 Obonga alert. That guy has a lit waterpipe going.
Obama wants to “remake” America asap and legalize as many illegal aliens and put them on government benefits asap. He will then have a built in population keeping socialism alive.
We simply won’t be able to overcome the numbers of non-Americans overwhelming our representative election system.
Obama is looking to do it asap. He’s having trouble with the timing but is assuring his friends at the UN the destruction of the US is at hand.
“Clearly, 0bummer is willing to lose Congress in order to get Nationalized Healtcare. That’s logical. They’ll own so much of the GDP at that point, there is no turning back. They’ll own your a$$.”
It will be something of a hassle, but we can always take it back by other means.
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