WHY WOULD HAWAII AID AN ILLEGAL OF BRITISH BIRTH IN ILLEGALLY OBTAINING A FAKE BIRTH CERTIFICATE?

The 9/12 Project ^ | 10/15/09 | Joanne Williams

[Beckwith]

you have to identify some plausible scholarships that he might have gotten. Can you?

The Fulbright Scholarship

http://www.cies.org/about_fulb.htm

[Beckwith]

But is there real evidence that standards in the Hawaiian COLB program were laxer than in other states?

Not that I've seen.



This beautifully printed Certificate of Hawaiian Birth belongs to Sun Yat-Sen, the Father of Modern China, who was born in China.

This Certificate of Hawaiian Birth, dated March 14, 1904, was issued after Dr. Sun signed a raggedy type-written statement affirming that he was born in Hawaii on Nov. 24, 1870.

Sun Yat-sen was born on November 12, 1866, to a peasant family in the village of Cuiheng, Xiangshan county , Guangzhou prefecture, Guangdong province (26 km or 16 miles north of Macau), not Hawaii, as this document affirms.

We know Maya Soetoro-Ng, Obama's sister has a Hawaiian Certification of Live Birth too, and she was born in Jakarta, Indonesia. You can be born anywhere and get one.

[Waco]

Hawii and 0’b lucked into a host of Americans VERY EAGER and willing to commit TREASON, and they’re still eagerly doing so. ( Thank you John Roberts, SCOTUS.)

[IrishPennant]

Thanks for the ping, LT

...was to start registering all those foreign kids by the thousands.

There must be plenty of these folks in and around the island. Hopefully one can be found. While not definitive proof against of Barry, it would be another cut.

[mkjessup]

There were some warnings from the State Dept. about visas, etc.!!!

There may have been advisories about the risk to the safety of travelers choosing to journey to Pakistan but that was the extent of it. There was never any 'ban' on travel to Pakistan as there was (and presumably still is) regarding Communist Cuba (for example).

If you can come up with official State Department documents to the contrary, by all means please do.

[Genoa]

...He was also more likely going by the name Barry Soetoro, Indonesian, when he applied to Occi....

Yep. The massive suppression of documents is most likely driven mainly by the political liability of the previous life of Barry Soetoro, citizen of Indonesia, resident alien. Born in the USA? Maybe, maybe not. But the problem is what transpired later: Amended BC? Schools? College? Passport? Did he naturalize? Change his name legally to BHO? Many questions along this line!

[kalee]

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[jcsjcm]

3. As I see it, if Obama ever dared to try to practice law in Hawaii, I think that he might have at least one problem filling out the state bar application.

4. The problem is this: The application asks the applicant if he has ever used other names in his life.

Great point john mirse - thing is, Barry filled out the same form in Illinois where it asked exactly the same question. Barry stated he used no other name. Now why isn't anyone going after him on this issue? He falsified information on a state bar application. Shouldn't this be considered a federal offense? Who is wiping up this mans mess?

[null and void]

dodger ~ but rumored to be a tribadist

no-s ~ Another word I now wish I didn't look up in Wikipedia.

At least she didn't matriculate with thespians...

[Eye of Unk]

I too am glad this is being discussed, now obviously this must be given main stream coverage as well.

But there is a problem here, its like trying to remove the casinos from Las Vegas, it eventually leads to the person being cactus fertilizer.

Hawaii lives by having a squeaky clean tropical paradise image, and news like this doesn’t exactly instill confidence.

Tthe bright side in this of course is that its easy to obtain more records of students from Hawaii entering colleges across America, my suggestion is to home in on any football scholarships, Polynesians were highly prized for football players, not all were American citizens.

The higher officials should in the public’s best interest and especially concerning future travelers should admit this immediately, before they get the brutal onslaught of inquisitive accusations.

[danamco]

We know Maya Soetoro-Ng, Obama's sister has a Hawaiian Certification of Live Birth too,

Have I not seen this been denied by the Health Dept. in Hawaii???

[danamco]

And negligence by Cheney???

[MHGinTN]

The issue is not so much the responsibility to deny as it is the responsibility of Phil Berg to explain how he filed the document copy with his law suit still in limbo (Barry’s lawyers—I think Anita Dunn’s husband actually—pleaded that the suit must be sealed because the revelation of data in the pleadings would ‘embarrrass their client). It would be nice for Phil to explain this, especially since Barry Soetoro’s apologists continue to demand anyone referring to the Maya CoLB produce the document as proof. Frankly, Maya could have obtained Hawaiian citizenship via her mother living/as an Hawaaiian resident citizen. There need not be a nefarious explanation for Maya’s Hawaiian citizenship, though issuing a birth certification is a bit problematic, if such a document exists, even though it has been shown that there are four ways to obtain such a document without a Long Form BC.

[danamco]

Here is a racist (?) who sues!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k0sQroiCYNc

[El Gato]

4. The problem is this: The application asks the applicant if he has ever used other names in his life.

So does the Illinois bar application. He answered "NO". But the Chicago Teflon did it's thing and he's not be sanctioned for that lie.

[MHGinTN]

Alan warned that if Barry is allowed to do his thing with America, the Republic will be no more ... and as usual, Alan Keyes was right on the money! We are seeing instituted right before our astonished eyes the working out of the Cloward-Piven strategy, to crash the American economic system and usher in the final federal oligarchy. What the democrat party bastards have not allowed into their calculus is the vulnerability our foreign enemies will exploit as the demcorat party destroys our ecoenomic resilience ... the democrat machine is inviting catastrophic assault which will eventually slaughter perhaps millions of Americans. How?... By amassing debt that is impossible for the nation to repay, even in generations of servitude to the tax codes, the demcorat party is accomplishing what they think is the final establishment of the federal oligarchy which they intend to run, but which will never be fulfilled because our foreign enemies will exploit what these domestic enemies have wrought! It doesn’t take a neclear assault to render Amerika impotent in the global heirarchy, just destroy the ecoenomic base of America and the deed is done. Think how much 911 cost the nation during economic resilience, then calculate what it will take to finalize the economic collapse and assimilation into a world eceonomic system run by un-esque forces noq quietly holding the banking strings.

[Canadian Outrage]

The nuclear assault will happen once this FRAUD has collapsed the economy. As soon as America is completely weak and down, the enemies will attack. That’s the plan according to the modern day prophets such as David Wilkerson of Times Square Church, New York City. David Wilkerson also established all the Teen Challenge centers all over the world. Wonderful man of God. His prohesies, however, will make you tremble. CO

[MHGinTN]

Perhaps dirty bombs to make off limits whole segments of city centers like Wall Street, but to strike the U.S. with nuclear weaponry is an extreme not needed so long as the nation is rendered impotent, and the obamantion in cooperation with the demcorat party is hard at work accomplishing that already.

[El Gato]

Even current laws are fairly lax. Sections numbers refer to Hawaii Revised Statutes

§338-5

Compulsory registration of births. Within the time prescribed by the department of health, a certificate of every birth shall be substantially completed and filed with the local agent of the department in the district in which the birth occurred, by the administrator or designated representative of the birthing facility, or physician, or midwife, or other legally authorized person in attendance at the birth; or if not so attended, by one of the parents.

§338-6

Local agent to prepare birth certificate. (a) If neither parent of the newborn child whose birth is unattended as provided in section 338-5 is able to prepare a birth certificate, the local agent of the department of health shall secure the necessary information from any person having knowledge of the birth and prepare and file the certificate. (b) The department shall prescribe the time within which a supplementary report furnishing information omitted on the original certificate may be returned for the purpose of completing the certificate. Certificates of birth completed by a supplementary report shall not be considered as “delayed” or “altered.”

§338-16 Procedure concerning late and altered birth certificates. (a) Birth certificates registered one year or more after the date of birth, and certificates which have been altered after being filed with the department of health, shall contain the date of the late filing and the date of the alteration and be marked distinctly “late” or “altered”.

(b) A summary statement of the evidence submitted in support of the acceptance for late filing or the alteration shall be endorsed on the certificates.

(c) Such evidence shall be kept in a special permanent file.

(d) When an applicant does not submit the minimum documentation required by the rules for late registration or when the state registrar finds reasons to question the validity or adequacy of the certificate or the documentary evidence, the state registrar shall not register the late certificate and shall advise the applicant of the reason for this action

[Amityschild]

Ping!