Posted on 10/12/2009 6:58:40 AM PDT by Federalist Patriot
Here is video of Sen. John McCain commenting on attacks on Sarah Palin by his former Campaign Manager Steve Schmidt. McCain told CNN's John King that "obviously there were tensions between Steve Schmidt and people in the Palin campaign." McCain would only praise Palin, but did not come right out and reprimand what Schmidt said.
McCain did remind people that choosing Palin "energized the GOP" and that he and Palin were "leading in the polls until the Stock Market Crash."
That is absolutely true. Democrats are grossly underestimating Palin's potential strength as a candidate because they overestimate Obama's victory in 2008. Obama was greatly helped by a public tired of eight years of the same President, tired of war, and shocked by dramatic economic crisis that unfolded in the last month and a half of the campaign. Obama's support was greatly inflated by these factors - factors that won't be there in 2012. In the end, Obama only won 53%-46%. It will only take 4% of voters to change their mind. That could easily happen. . . . (VIDEO)
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I still maintain that McCain could have won if he had LED during the bailout “crisis” and gone back to Washington and rallied the Senate AGAINST the stupid-assed bailout.
But he didn’t. The one time the maverick SHOULD HAVE been a maverick... he fell right in line behind Paulson with the rest of our useless crapweasel senators.
Thus proving he’s an idiot that should not be allowed to govern.
Go away, McCain.
| July 15 | DOW 10,962 | |
| Sept 23 | 10,854 | |
| Sept 24 | 10,825 | McCain Suspends |
| Oct 01 | 10,831 | |
| Oct 10 | 8,451 | Market Drops |
Yes, they were and they were doing fine when McCain's suspension of campaigning was seen as him getting the Republicans a seat at the table. It was only when he changed from that to supporting the bailout that things went south.
McCain doesn’t sound like he’s going to run again.. He basically admitted Sarah could win a future election with a different running mate!
BTTT.
Who pulled out that $550 BILLION DOLLARS, and where did it go???
Juan - go the eff away!
Go Away John. Please, just go away.
McCain did not resurrect the bill. It was never squashed. The bill was delayed a bit, but there was never enough opposition to defeat it. McCain was wrong about the timing of the stock market crash. That occurred after the panic from all the bailout announcement.
I agree. For all of his “maverick-speak,” McCain hasn’t been a “maverick” where it counted.....especially with regard to the “porkulus” vote.
http://thinkprogress.org/2008/02/07/mccain-stimulus-2/html
Actually, at present he is not so much a “maverick” as he is a RINO, and as such, he should also “fall in line” behind his friend “Arlen Specter” and formally join the Democratic Party instead of merely acting like a “Democrat in Republican drag.”
I believe I could have defeated Juan in last years contest. The American public was simply NOT impressed with a slack-jawed, limp-wristed, spineless sell-out, frightened to DEATH to take a stand of any kind on ANY issue which even approached the thinking of the majority. McCain was scrupulously “undecided” and “moderate”, just like the mindless voters he hoped to impress. He spent more time heaping praise on his opponent so as to avoid the perception of raaaaacism, than pointing out the fact that Hussein is a radical, America hating fascist.
Actually, it’s was McCain’s own comment about the economy being fundamentally sound that killed the momentum of his campaign. Palin was the only factor that even kept it close.
“Democrats are grossly underestimating Palin’s potential strength as a candidate...”
That was before she up and quit the Governorship. The dems and MSM will daily hang that around her neck like it was a Kentuckey Derby bouquet.
Unfortunately, that moniker will resonate with independents and blue dog dems, votes she would need to win.
That rhetoric means nothing. No one cares about whether she was governor for 2.5 years or 4 years. Seriously. Well, except the Palin haters.
By September 23, McCain was already behind again in the polls. IN fact, by September 11 he was already behind again in some polls, and by the 18th he was behind in all polls, and that was before he suspended his campaign.
I never said he had no involvement, I just disagreed with the statement that McCain somehow resurrected it.
McCain made so many mistakes it is hard to lay it on any single one. McCain refused to attack Obama. McCain never responded to any of the attacks against Bush, even as Obama linked Bush's policies to McCain. McCain made stupid statements that he admitted he knew nothing about the economy. McCain did not have a real message except he was a 'maverick', as if anyone cared. McCain's handlers did Palin no favors, and set her up with only a few adversarial interviews. Palin should have been on Fox a dozen times before they sent her to the wolves. The way McCain handled the bailout, was just one of many failures.
But he didn’t. The one time the maverick SHOULD HAVE been a maverick... he fell right in line behind Paulson with the rest of our useless crapweasel senators.
Thus proving he’s an idiot that should not be allowed to govern.
Go away, McCain.
Very well said, Nervous Tick. I'll never forgive McStain for the crappy campaign he ran last year. As a result of that, Obamunism - as I say in my tagline - is indeed doing permanent damage to our once-great country. It's infuriating and sad...
McCain made that comment on September 15th.
Here are the polls from that time period:
As you can see, McCain's lead really was disappearing by 9/11/2009, before his comments, and well before the 2nd market crash (but the market was already down thousands of points before the October plunge).CNN/Opinion Resear 09/19-09/21 697 LV 3.0 51 47 Obama +4 F&M/Hearst-Argyle 09/15-09/21 1138 LV 3.0 45 47 McCain +2 Gallup Tracking 09/15-09/17 2815 RV 2.0 48 44 Obama +4 Rasmussen Tracking 09/15-09/17 3000 LV 2.0 48 48 Tie Hotline/FD Trackin 09/15-09/17 912 RV 3.2 46 42 Obama +4 GWU/Battleground 09/11-09/18 800 LV 3.0 47 47 Tie CBS News/NY Times 09/12-09/16 LV 3.0 49 44 Obama +5 Quinnipiac 09/11-09/16 987 LV 3.1 49 45 Obama +4 Pew Research 09/09-09/14 2307 LV -- 46 46 Tie Reuters/Zogby 09/11-09/13 1008 LV 3.1 47 45 Obama +2 Newsweek 09/10-09/11 1038 RV 3.8 46 46 Tie GWU/Battleground 09/07-09/11 1000 LV 3.1 44 48 McCain +4 Associated Press/G 09/05-09/10 812 LV -- 44 48 McCain +4 FOX News 09/08-09/09 900 RV 3.0 42 45 McCain +3 Gallup Tracking 09/07-09/09 2714 RV 2.0 43 48 McCain +5
His lead though really didn't survive the post-convention bounce period.
>> The way McCain handled the bailout, was just one of many failures.
Yeah, but IMO it was the watershed event. It was all downhill from there.
"I coulda been a contenda, instead of a bum, which is what I am."
Your whistling past the graveyard. The dems will make the case she doesn’t have what it takes to handle the heat “in the kitchen” of the presidency as demonstrated by her abrupt resignation in Alaska. In her resig speech she even noted the lawsuits and harassment were a major defining factor and that the peace and well being of her family came first. Those comments will come back to haunt her in triple.
Well, I doubt many would disagree with putting family first but unfortunately in the oval office one doesn’t have that luxury. The MSM will pound whether she has what it takes to make hard decisions for the country or whether she will continue to put family concerns above those of the citizens of the US. She certainly did it in Alaska and admitted to it. A politicians history is a better example of how they will govern then their campaign rhetoric.
I was a Sarah admirer and still am but not anymore as a political messiah who will rescue us from the evils of liberalism. Now she will do much better as a pundit and morale builder ala Rush, Levin, et al. She can help keeping us focused and reminding us of the values we need to keep as a priority. She should give speeches, write books, maybe a column, help raise money for the right candidates, etc. THAT is the best place for her and where she can do the most good. Personally I believe she knows this and that is the track she is on.
But as a political animal she is dead Jim, she has enough juice to win a primary but too damaged for a general election. A nomination win for her will spell another 4-12 years of dem control of the WH and national agenda.
“That rhetoric means nothing. No one cares about whether she was governor for 2.5 years or 4 years. Seriously. Well, except the Palin haters.”
This is what passes for political acuity with the dreamy eyed Sarah boosters. First, that she quit midway through her first term is extremely significant in relation to campaign rhetoric and strategy from the MSM, DNC and her opponent. To say it isn’t shows the degree to which some people willfully put on blinders when it comes to Palin’s shortcomings.
And that is what disturbs me. If her supporters can’t acknowledge that there is at least a minor problem there then what other political soft spots about her and along the way will they ignore, gloss over or just refuse to admit exists? And that, an inability to assess the realities of her pluses and minuses is a recipe for disaster in a campaign.
There’s an old saying, “A pilot has to know the condition of his ship”.
You say no one cares about her resignation. I do and I’m a conservative. I now have doubts about how she might react when confronted with a truly life and death situation on the world stage. Does she have the chutzpah to stand up to and stay resolved in front of the evils of the modern world? Will she cave or take the easy way out?
“Seriously. Well, except the Palin haters.”
This is the type of response ANYONE of FR gets when they even feint to any of Palin’s shortcomings. It’s a strategy to shut down discussion by branding anyone who disagrees with them as a hater, a liberal, a plant, a RINO lover, a Romney supporter, etc. And that is what all reasonable and logical political observers on FR need to be concerned about.
Heacy handed Palin supporters don’t want discussion, they want you to shut up so they can continue their Palin celebration and bask in the warm glow of delusion and self imposed blindness.
Her speech is so twisted out of shape, the MSM was reporting Palin was quitting politics at the time. Watching the speech it was clear that Palin's plan was to be able to fight. The Dems are going to trash any candidate that is conservative. If you wait for a candidate the Dems like, you end up with McCain. Those comments will mean nothing to the voters.
The MSM will pound whether she has what it takes to make hard decisions for the country or whether she will continue to put family concerns above those of the citizens of the US. She certainly did it in Alaska and admitted to it.
No she did not. She made it clear it was in the best interest of Alaska that she resign. The lawsuits were too much of a distraction.
But as a political animal she is dead Jim
Lots of politicians have been declared dead only to come back. Palin's 15 minutes of fame were suppose to be up after they lost the election. But Sarah Palin creates more buzz than anyone out there. Palin can generate a major headline about as quick as Obama right now. No one else even comes close. Palin is not a pundit, she is a leader.
.You are the biggest Palin-hater on this forum. You trash her every chance you get. She gives a speech in HK, and you trash her for making money. Palin makes a big splash trashing Obama’s health care plan, and you mock people for suggesting she had any effect. You call everyone who defends her a worshiper. You twist comments of Palin saying she would support any conservative candidate regardless of party, as that she is going to help Obama. Going back to the campaign, you bitched about her ads. You have twisted what she said in her resignation speech. The truth is, the SMARTEST thing Palin ever did was resign, and more and more people are seeing that every day.
That's how I see it, too.
“You are the biggest Palin-hater on this forum.”
See? Mention that her quiting in Alaska may hurt her in a Presidential run and you’re a “Palin hater”.
“You trash her every chance you get.”
I laud her every chance I get. Going for the gold was a smart move for her and her family. I only trash the “Sarah as messiah” supporters..and that isn’t all of them, not even a majority except here on FR.
“She gives a speech in HK, and you trash her for making money.”
A lie, prove it. I criticized her for cancelling a speech to a Republican womens group at the Ronald Reagan Library while taking the “big check” from foreignors in Hong Kong.
“Palin makes a big splash trashing Obama’s health care plan, and you mock people for suggesting she had any effect.”
Never happened. If I was critical at all it was for the starry eyed comparing it to multiplying loaves and fishes.
“You call everyone who defends her a worshiper.”
No, just the dreamers who have their head in the sand. Sarah’s going for the gold, good for her I hope she makes millions.
“You twist comments of Palin saying she would support any conservative candidate regardless of party, as that she is going to help Obama.”
Never happened.
“Going back to the campaign, you bitched about her ads.”
Don’t remember that, in fact I don’t remember any of her ads.
“You have twisted what she said in her resignation speech.”
Well, you read what you hope for and I see it as it is.
“The truth is, the SMARTEST thing Palin ever did was resign...”
Agreed, if her goal was accumulating gold. But she seriously handicapped herself in any bid for higher office.
“...and more and more people are seeing that every day.”
Hmmm, nope. If anything, people are seeing how bad a move that was IF she plans on higher office.
So you made up most of what you wrote and the rest is just micharacterization or wishful thinking. Apt skills for a true Sarah-is-God advocate. Good luck.
Do I really need to document the dozens and dozens of posts including a few vanities where you trash Palin? There is a lot more than just mentioning the quiting may hurt her. You attack her, call her dead, give her no chance, mock her.
I laud her every chance I get. Going for the gold was a smart move for her and her family.
LOL...let's get the direct quote:
So she doesn’t have time to speak to republican womens groups but does to investors of a Foreign Borkerage firm? KA-CHING!
Doesn't sound like praise to me. Just saying...
A lie, prove it. I criticized her for cancelling a speech to a Republican womens group at the Ronald Reagan Library while taking the “big check” from foreignors in Hong Kong.
Did she really cancel? I don't think so....but let's look at more of you praising Palin...
How does it look that she turns down dozens of requests to speak at republican and conservAtive events but finds time to address the traders at a HONG KONG BROKERAGE FIRM. I'm guessing the Chinese pay much better...
Heheh, everything you just wrote I agreed with and reiterated in my previous post. She’s turned down dozens, some say hundreds, of requests to speak at conservative events, all declined, yet has time to go to Hong Kong to speak to the Chinese and collect a big check made out to her in yen.
You all talk about Sarah’s commitment to conservatism...I think you saw it right there. She bailed on her supporters in Alaska and now she’s bailing on conservative groups who would get a real boost from her appearance.
Everything she does says Palin is looking out for Palin and I’ll say it one more time...GOOD FOR HER! The most ardent of her presidential campaign admirers get ecstatic when once in a while she throws you TWITTER! What a joke.
Don’t forget to run out and buy her book! Wouldn’t want to miss that at 29.95!
BTW - Are you going to address all the fibs you told in your previous post or shall we just book it the way it stands?
Also, I noticed yo have a ‘98 signup date...do wWe know each other? Have I just spent a whole lot of time whaling on an old friend?
If so, sorry.
Suspending his campaign was nothing but a cheap stunt. I thought right then and there, he blew the election.
Exactly. It was his indecision and lack of leadership when it hit the fan that really cost him.
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