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People Voting With Their One-Way U-Haul Rentals
Carpe Diem ^ | 10/8/2009 | Mark J. Perry

Posted on 10/10/2009 4:21:08 PM PDT by SeekAndFind



Forbes magazine just released its fourth annual ranking of the best states for business (see full article here and full data set here). According to Forbes:

Our Best States ranking measures six vital categories for businesses: costs, labor supply, regulatory environment, current economic climate, growth prospects and quality of life. We factor in 33 different points of data to determine the ranks in the six main areas. Business costs, which include labor, energy and taxes are weighted the most heavily.

Virginia nabbed the top spot with the best business climate in the country for the fourth straight year. Relative to the rest of the country, Virginia is booming. Its 6.5% unemployment rate is fifth lowest in the country with the four states ahead of it all having dramatically smaller economies and employment bases. Virginia is the only state ranked in the top 20 in each of the six broad categories we examined. The state finished in the top three in half of those categories (labor supply, regulatory environment and quality of life).

The two worst states for business this year were Rhode Island, which dropped five full places from last year to finish in last place in 2009, and second-to-last place Michigan, falling from 47th in 2008. Other highlights of the Forbes study include Texas ranking first for “economic climate,” Virginia ranking first for “quality of life,” and some states, such as North Dakota, Oregon, Montana, and Iowa, gaining six places or more from last year’s rankings.

One outcome of the huge differences in business climate among states documented in the Forbes study is that we should expect to see a movement of business, employment and people away from the worst states such as Rhode Island and Michigan to business-friendly states like Virginia, Texas, and North Dakota. Interestingly, one-way truck rental rates from U-Haul confirm this exact movement—see the chart above.

Each of the six paired quotes in the table shows the one-way rental rate for a 26-foot truck from cities in the two worst-ranked states (Detroit, Michigan and Providence, Rhode Island) to cities in some of the highest ranked states (Fairfax, VA; Fargo, ND; and Houston, TX), and rental rates in the opposite direction: from the cities in the business-friendly states to the cities in the business-unfriendly states.

In each of the six city pairs, the one-way truck rental rates going to cities in the business-friendly states are much higher than the rental rates in the opposite direction, by a factor of about 2 to 1 on average. Since the equipment is exactly the same for a one-way rental in either direction (a 26-foot truck), and since the distance is exactly the same, we can assume that U-Haul dynamically prices its one-way rentals based largely on the relative demand for trucks in each direction. If there are about 360 people moving and renting one-way trucks from Detroit to Houston for every 100 people moving from Houston to Detroit, we could then explain a pricing differential of $2,215 for a truck from Detroit to Houston (high demand) that is about 3.6 times higher than the $617 to rent a truck going in the reverse direction (low demand). The other pricing differences in the chart would explain differences in relative demand for the other city pairs.

Therefore, the significant differences in U-Haul one-way truck rental rates complements the Forbes rankings, by suggesting an outmigration of trucks and people from the lowest ranked states, with those people and trucks heading towards the most business-friendly states. Fortunately, the American people and businesses can vote with their feet, and with their one-way truck rentals, and that is apparently what the U-Haul data show they are doing—moving away from places like Detroit and Providence with high unemployment and business-unfriendly environments, to cities like Fairfax, Fargo, and Houston that rank high for business climate in the Forbes study.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Society
KEYWORDS: exodus; fairfaxcounty; index; uhaul; virginia
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1 posted on 10/10/2009 4:21:08 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Forbes’ Best States for Business :

http://www.forbes.com/2009/09/23/best-states-for-business-beltway-best-states.html

FULL TABLE OF THE BEST STATES FOR BUSINESS :

http://www.forbes.com/2009/09/23/best-states-for-business-beltway-best-states_table.html


2 posted on 10/10/2009 4:22:42 PM PDT by SeekAndFind (wH)
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To: SeekAndFind

What percentage of the federal workforce lives in Virginia?


3 posted on 10/10/2009 4:24:59 PM PDT by Tallguy ("The sh- t's chess, it ain't checkers!" -- Alonzo (Denzel Washington) in "Training Day")
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To: SeekAndFind
Amazingly - no one wants to live in democrat socialist cesspools...
4 posted on 10/10/2009 4:26:10 PM PDT by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - they want to die for islam and we want to kill them)
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To: SeekAndFind

Proof positive we are being invaded down here.


5 posted on 10/10/2009 4:26:37 PM PDT by TheZMan (Just secede and get it over with. No love lost on either side. Cya.)
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To: Tallguy
What percentage of the federal workforce lives in Virginia?

I would say a lot. Who would want to live in teh dangerous city of Washington DC ? A lot of people live in Virginia and commute to DC and then leave the capitol at the end of the day.
6 posted on 10/10/2009 4:28:44 PM PDT by SeekAndFind (wH)
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To: Tallguy

Bump


7 posted on 10/10/2009 4:30:04 PM PDT by 230FMJ (...from my cold, dead, fingers.)
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To: SeekAndFind; Tolerance Sucks Rocks; sickoflibs
Who would want to live in teh dangerous city of Washington DC ?

Depends. There are some parts in Northwest that are really nice. That said, I much prefer Virginia to both DC *and* Maryland!

8 posted on 10/10/2009 4:30:58 PM PDT by rabscuttle385 (Kick corrupt Democrats *AND* Republicans out of office in 2010!)
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To: SeekAndFind

Great. Now I know why traffic keeps getting increasingly worse here in Northern Virginia.


9 posted on 10/10/2009 4:31:19 PM PDT by rabscuttle385 (Kick corrupt Democrats *AND* Republicans out of office in 2010!)
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To: Tallguy
It's mostly Government jobs. I'm losing my business here in VA along with
countless others. Commercial vacancy is everywhere. Nobody is spending a dime
on anything they don't need, and service companies are faltering because of it.

Unemployment may be low (gov) but nobody is spending out of fear for the future.
The largest employer right now "is" the Gov.

10 posted on 10/10/2009 4:31:59 PM PDT by MaxMax (Obama can't play in the Olympic reindeer games)
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To: SeekAndFind
This is precisely what federalism is supposed to solve. The beauty of the Founders was that people can always vote with their feet when their state government becomes too oppressive.

Unfortunately, the people who escape these socialist hellholes try to implement the same socialist crap as before.

11 posted on 10/10/2009 4:32:04 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (90% of the fedgov is unconstitutional. The other 10% besides the military doesnt know what it's doin)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

We ought to be able to verify the voter regestration card and turn them back at the state line if we dont like it.We want smart people who work, not democraps.


12 posted on 10/10/2009 4:37:59 PM PDT by imahawk (Life is tough.It's tougher when you're stupid.)
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To: MaxMax

I don’t think that is true anymore...Walmart has surpassed the government...unless you count every single agency including state federal and local than maybe they are tied.


13 posted on 10/10/2009 4:39:29 PM PDT by napscoordinator
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
"Unfortunately, the people who escape these socialist hellholes try to implement the same socialist crap as before."

New Hampshire and Maine went from solid conservative places to live only to turn into socialist strongholds after the "Massholes" ruined the Commonwealth and moved north - because they want to socialize the states with YOUR money, not theirs...

14 posted on 10/10/2009 4:40:08 PM PDT by jessduntno (Tell Obama to STFU - Stop The Federal Usurpation.)
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To: napscoordinator
Excuse me, going broke in my service company doesn't seem like and exaggeration.
And watching other companies close must just happen to other people. Are you being /s ?

Do you live in Virginia?

15 posted on 10/10/2009 4:44:11 PM PDT by MaxMax (Obama can't play in the Olympic reindeer games)
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To: napscoordinator

Walmart may have surpassed the government. But what is the top pay at Walmart these days, vs the top pay at a government position?


16 posted on 10/10/2009 4:46:36 PM PDT by Pan_Yans Wife
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To: SeekAndFind

How can Oregon Come in Tenth overall?

The city of Portland and Multnomah County are positively Hostile to any kind of Industry.

They keep raising the Taxes and driving family wage jobs out.

I guess they think we’ll all get rich flipping burgers and giving each other Lap Dances.


17 posted on 10/10/2009 4:51:09 PM PDT by SwedeBoy2
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To: SeekAndFind

Voting with one’s fleet, you might say.


18 posted on 10/10/2009 4:52:08 PM PDT by P.O.E.
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To: Pan_Yans Wife

I believe it is in the millions for Walmart (the Walton kids) to 400,000 dollars for the President. A cap of 135,000 a year for the government management of the federal government. Your right government workers make peanuts.


19 posted on 10/10/2009 4:52:16 PM PDT by napscoordinator
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To: SeekAndFind

One reason for the difference in U-Haul pricing is that they need the trucks in the “bad” states. One way rentals leave them in the “good” states and they have to be transported back. The company is essentially paying renters to drive trucks back to the “bad” states. That is just one of the ways that supply&demand works out. If the traffic gets really heavy out of Michigan the price back to Michigan could conceivably even drop to $100. I can imagine U-Hauls lined up southbound on the Interstate out of Detroit.


20 posted on 10/10/2009 4:55:35 PM PDT by arthurus ("If you don't believe in shooting abortionists, don't shoot an abortionist." -Ann C.)
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To: napscoordinator

That’s not what I meant. I know what the president makes, and I have a rough idea what the Waltons make.

I’m talking about jobs here.

If you’re looking for work are you going to go to the government job or are you going to be polishing floors at night at Walmart?

Me, I’d do neither, but many folks would want to get their foot in the door at a government job. Look at the post office. They pay people NOT to work! Just show up and sit in a room, like the unions do with auto workers.


21 posted on 10/10/2009 4:55:44 PM PDT by Pan_Yans Wife
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To: 2banana

The problem is that those fleeing the crime, corruption, and high taxes in Detroit et al bring it to thei destination states. They do not understand they are fleeing the attitudes that created the cess pits from which they flê. They get to Texas and think it is so much better there but Texas just needs better welfare and more services. Then they vote.


22 posted on 10/10/2009 4:58:37 PM PDT by arthurus ("If you don't believe in shooting abortionists, don't shoot an abortionist." -Ann C.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Federal government employees will vote Virginia straight into Michigan, given enough time. They’ve already turned the state purple in a decade or less.


23 posted on 10/10/2009 4:59:30 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: SeekAndFind

Nevada fell from #19 to #31 in Forbes’ Best States for Business Rankings from 2006-2009....


24 posted on 10/10/2009 5:02:27 PM PDT by freebilly (No wonder the left has a boner for Obama. There's CIALIS in soCIALISt....)
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To: SwedeBoy2

You forgot selling your junk back and forth to one another on CraigsList.


25 posted on 10/10/2009 5:02:46 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: jessduntno

Many of the people leaving Massachusetts for NH were actually conservatives (the NH counties that border MA are the reddest in the state). The BIG problem comes from New York and New Jersey.


26 posted on 10/10/2009 5:03:22 PM PDT by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: SeekAndFind

“...and second-to-last place Michigan, falling from 47th in 2008.”

Come on, Jenny! You can do worse than that! *SPIT*


27 posted on 10/10/2009 5:06:48 PM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (Save The Earth. It's The Only Planet With Chocolate.)
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To: RegulatorCountry

Good One, You must have been thru Portland at one time.

My only worry is they will track me down and Tax me on all those Craig’s List sales.


28 posted on 10/10/2009 5:08:06 PM PDT by SwedeBoy2
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To: RegulatorCountry

“You forgot selling your junk back and forth to one another on CraigsList.”

That made me laugh out loud. Thanks. :)


29 posted on 10/10/2009 5:09:04 PM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (Save The Earth. It's The Only Planet With Chocolate.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Interesting.


30 posted on 10/10/2009 5:10:43 PM PDT by kalee (01/20/13 The end of an error.... Obama even worse than Carter.)
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To: Peanut Gallery; Wneighbor

Folks REALLY don’t want to go TO Detroit from Texas.


31 posted on 10/10/2009 5:11:02 PM PDT by Professional Engineer (Amendment 0: Congress shall make no law.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Frankly, I wish they’d keep their findings to themselves. VA has been inundated with VOTERS from those other places who are changing the area in a negative way. They maintain their same old voting patterns to our detriment.


32 posted on 10/10/2009 5:11:11 PM PDT by EDINVA (Obama CAN'T see the Olympics from his back porch !)
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To: EDINVA

Yea, I know what you mean its the same way with the Mexicans.

They come here to get away from the Poverty and crime in their Country and reestablish it here.


33 posted on 10/10/2009 5:17:19 PM PDT by SwedeBoy2
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To: Tallguy
What percentage of the federal workforce lives in Virginia?

There's a split between VA and MD, with a lot of career feds now living further out in WV. There are lots of areas in DC that are gentrifying or otherwise cleaning themselves up. Penn Quarter and Chinatown (er, China Block) for instance. So the issue isn't just NoVA being a destination for folks seeking Federal work of some sort (Civil Service or Contracting/Consulting) ... it also provides significant benefits over the other likely destinations in the DC Metro Area.
34 posted on 10/10/2009 5:18:07 PM PDT by tanknetter
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To: EDINVA

Perhaps a five-year voting moratorium would be in order...establish a 5-year residency; THEN you can vote.


35 posted on 10/10/2009 5:18:51 PM PDT by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: TheZMan
"Proof positive we are being invaded down here."

That's what I thought. :-\

36 posted on 10/10/2009 5:19:16 PM PDT by LadyPilgrim ((Lifted up was He to die; It is finished was His cry; Hallelujah what a Savior!!!!!! ))
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To: SeekAndFind

You can get a great deal on a U-Haul from Phoenix to LA.


37 posted on 10/10/2009 5:22:43 PM PDT by AZLiberty (Yes, Mr. Lennon, I do want a revolution.)
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To: napscoordinator
A cap of 135,000 a year for the government management of the federal government. Your right government workers make peanuts.

Federal pay tops out a lot higher than that. GS-15/10s (top of the GS scale) with the locality adjustment top out at $153,200 in the DC area. SESers (career, not political appointees) make up to $196,700 (Level I SES).

Then start adding on the various benefits. For example, Feds in DC are subsidized up to $230 per month - above their salaries - for using public transit (Metro, MARC, VRE, etc). Non-SESers have Civil Service protections, which amounts to guaranteed job security. So on and so forth.
38 posted on 10/10/2009 5:28:09 PM PDT by tanknetter
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To: SwedeBoy2

How can Oregon Come in Tenth overall?

The city of Portland and Multnomah County are positively Hostile to any kind of Industry.

They keep raising the Taxes and driving family wage jobs out.


As long as the states of Washington and California continue to treat their citizens as mere money suppliers Oregon will attract people...and the county of Portland stupidly will lead the charge towards Californication...against their own best long term interests.


39 posted on 10/10/2009 5:42:07 PM PDT by crazyhorse691 (Now that the libs are in power dissent is not only unpatriotic, but, it is also racist.)
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To: who knows what evil?
Perhaps a five-year voting moratorium would be in order...establish a 5-year residency; THEN you can vote.

That's what we should demand if the Dems go for some sort of amnesty program for illegals. Then they will have second thoughts.
40 posted on 10/10/2009 5:44:28 PM PDT by John.Galt2012 (I'll take Liberty and you can keep the "Change"!)
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To: who knows what evil?

Heck .. last year ACORN came in an registered college students who do NOT live in VA, no way they should have been allowed to vote here. They aren’t residents any way you look at it. But register and vote they did.


41 posted on 10/10/2009 5:44:37 PM PDT by EDINVA (Obama CAN'T see the Olympics from his back porch !)
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To: SeekAndFind
Fargo is a very nice town, except for the harsh climate. On the other hand, the harsh climate is part of the reason it is such a nice town. As we used to say there, 40 below keeps out the riff-raff. We rented a U-Haul from California (LA area) to North Dakota (Fargo area) back when Mrs. Vigilanteman and I were married a quarter century ago.

At the time, California was a hot spot and North Dakota was shedding population, so we got a great rate. How times have changed!

42 posted on 10/10/2009 5:52:41 PM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: arthurus

Driving U-Hauls and rental cars from undesirable to desirable cities has been an economical way for college students to travel for decades!


43 posted on 10/10/2009 6:04:01 PM PDT by OCC
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To: TheZMan

Uh...yeah. We’re ‘gettin it’ from both ends, too.

Swell.


44 posted on 10/10/2009 6:11:36 PM PDT by XenaLee
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To: crazyhorse691

Is there a vaccine against liberalism and leftist stupidity yet? Loooong overdue.


45 posted on 10/10/2009 6:13:30 PM PDT by XenaLee
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To: Pan_Yans Wife

A couple hundred thou, all expenses paid, and an occaisonal bonus of 1.4 mil.


46 posted on 10/10/2009 6:28:29 PM PDT by Erasmus (Barack Hussein Obama: America's toast!)
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To: EDINVA
They maintain their same old voting patterns to our detriment.

Ironic, isn't it? They leave their liberal hellholes and move to a conservative refuge, and then proceed to bring their old, liberal proclivities into the ballot box, thereby contributing to the process that ultimately converts the new place into another liberal cesspool.

47 posted on 10/10/2009 6:46:58 PM PDT by Salvey
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To: SeekAndFind

It would have been interesting to see the data sorted and ranked according to the state government’s ruling political party.


48 posted on 10/10/2009 6:48:57 PM PDT by Oatka ("A society of sheep must in time beget a government of wolves." –Bertrand de Jouvenel)
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To: SeekAndFind

When I moved to Forth Worth it was cheaper to drive the truck to Oklahoman just across the boarder and fly back to Dallas,


49 posted on 10/10/2009 6:50:29 PM PDT by ThomasThomas (It always easier to find spelling errors after you post.)
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To: arthurus

“The problem is that those fleeing the crime, corruption, and high taxes in Detroit et al bring it to thei destination states. They do not understand they are fleeing the attitudes that created the cess pits from which they flê. They get to Texas and think it is so much better there but Texas just needs better welfare and more services. Then they vote.”

Exactly, I pity the states that are getting folks with the southeastern michigan union attitude. IMO, it’s the worst part about michigan, of the many things that are wrong. I’m not anti-union. There are union shops in other parts of the state that are outstanding to work with.


50 posted on 10/10/2009 6:53:47 PM PDT by b359 (The goat is old and gnarly....)
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