Posted on 10/07/2009 10:11:22 PM PDT by Federalist Patriot
Here is video of Dennis Miller on "The O'Reilly Factor" talking about FOX News and taking a shot at Sean Hannity and Glenn Beck.
Dennis Miller talking about FOX News said "FOX I believe, is in the right lane but you still got rubber on the road, Hannity's gone off-road, and Beck, he's way down the road."
O'Reilly actually defended Hannity saying "I disagree with you...Hannity represents the Republican party, he's a Reagan Republican, so the Republicans are gonna watch Sean, and there's nothing wrong with having somebody on the air that represents the Republican Party, so he's not off the rails anywhere, he's a Republican.
O'Reilly also defended Beck saying "Beck is successful, fabulously successful, because he's just a guy, he's not a journalist, he's a guy, the first time we've ever had a guy that doesn't pretend to be anything other than a guy, who loves his country and says everyday I'm gonna tell you what I think....people want to watch people they identify with and they identify with Beck." (Video)
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“...and Beck, he’s way down the road.”
I didn’t see it, and I’m guessing Miller meant it in a bad way if O’Reilly thought he needed to defend Beck. I would look at it as “way down the road” as in out in front of everybody else, leading, seeing what lies ahead and warning the rest of us of the washed out bridge that we are racing towards.
I’ll be the first to admit that I have no idea what Miller was saying. Good grief I remember when he was just a kind of human interest story reporter for KDKA. Zounds, that was a long time ago!
I can’t disagree much with what he said. Hannity is pretty far to the right. There’s nothing Democrats do that he likes, there are few things the Republican party does that he dislikes.
Beck is off in his own country. Forget the road. I think he took off into the overgrowth, into the bramble and jungle, long ago, and he’s hacking his way through with a machete, blazing his own trail to who-knows-where.
I think I’d agree with Miller for the most part. MSNBC is off the road to the left, with a few exceptions. Fox is mostly center-right, with just a couple people who are far-right (Hannity) and far out (Beck).
If Miller is talking about Beck being a strange bird he’s right.... I just can’t watch him when he gets 6th grade silly
that said his views are pretty much straight on
He’s still pretty much the same Dennis. Mostly a centrist. He’s a September 12th former lib who saw the light on national security and the war on terror. I think he’s fairly squishy lib on most social issues, due perhaps to his Hollywood background, but social issues aren’t his main focus. I still listen to hime when traveling from time to time.
Could you educate me as to exactly what it is the Democrats do that I should like?
No. I never said there was anything to like. That’s simply what differentiates Hannity from other Fox pundits. Hannity has no pretenses about “objectivity.”
OK, I get it. Beck crazy, Choose Ye This Day smart. Keep telling yourself that.
I thought it was funny, remember that is Miller’s goal, and a little true. Beck, whom I love, just comes on really strong all the time. They nailed the hiring of smart, beautiful women!
I never once said that, but feel free to come to your own conclusions.
I'm missing something. If there's nothing to like, are you saying that Hannity should pretend otherwise in order to give the appearance of "objectivity."
You’re not missing anything. You’re trying to see something that isn’t there.
What would that be.
What’s ‘off road’ about the points Beck makes? Granted, his delivery is a bit melodramatic, but his positions are easily substantiated and entirely understandable.
What a Sore-Loserman!
Another has-been comes down with Beck Derangement Syndrome.
Dennis Miller isn’t that funny. That’s why nobody ever looks back and fondly remembers “The Dennis Miller Show” the way we will look back on Glenn Beck’s current golden age of classic TV.
I have no idea. You’re the one trying to read between lines for some hidden meaning that I never had. I was simply providing descriptions.
I’ll try it again: Hannity is pretty much a straight-party Republican. Period. Is that true or not?
I think that is obviously true. There’s nothing wrong with that, nor did I say, hint, imply nor even think that there was.
Beck is not a Republican. He has his own personal views and beliefs which defy traditional labels, as far as I have seen.
Other hosts, like O’Reilly and Greta and Cavuto, don’t really have a partisan approach. They are the ones who are trying to appear “objective” or independednt. I don’t know that they always succeed.
That’s what I have been trying to say. If you disagree, feel free to let me know why.
To clarify, if one attempted to put a label on Beck’s ideology, I think one would get a mishmash of independent/populist/Constitution-originalist. It defies traditional, convenient labeling.
I would look at it the same way you do...that being “way down the road” is being ahead of the curve. Using the “middle of the road”/moderate metaphor. You can be so far left or right so as to be “off the road”, but being way down the road it to be up ahead, but right on the road. Especially considering that Miller is a word guy and uses words very exactly usually. I didn’t see it, but taking that phrase alone sounds like a sort of compliment.
“Hannity has no pretenses about “objectivity.”
What is there to be objective about when talking about
Democrats? They all stink.
I just notice that many pundits on our side seem to delight
in eating each other.
Savage is a good example. I love waking up each morning and listening to him, but he always trashes the rest of our guys.
He seems to hate anyone that is not him.
I do not like O’Reilly, and do not care for Hannity, but I am not going to trash them in public...well, I might trash O’Reilly, when he his playing kissyface with leftist.
The Marxist are looking for any way to shut down our people.
We need to stay together and fight them.
I never said Beck was “off road”. I agree with you that he just comes on a little strong. I think he scares the middle.
Now you are saying "Hannity is pretty much a straight-party Republican".
Do you make no distinction between being far right and being a straight-party Republican or were you just being sloppy when you said Hannity was far right?
Why do you think it is called Fox? Hottie Central with overflowing intellect, makes em’ hotter.
I don’t think there’s much distinction. I think the Republican Party is on the right (correct) ideological side on most major issues, and I think that’s where Hannity is.
I guess one area where I would like to see Hannity and the Congressional Republicans show more conservative spine is on Medicare. During this whole health care debate, Republicans keep talking about how we need to preserve Medicare, and how Obamacare is going to reduce Medicare. No one talks about how Medicare should, ideally, be ended. It’s an unconstitutional behemoth that will swallow our budget and destroy our economy, and the Republican Party acts like it’s some sacrosanct holy relic which must never be touched.
Hannity is a mainstream Republican. Only someone on the left would consider him to be far right. For a comparison, David Duke is who I think of when I think of the far right.
It depends upon the comparison group, definitely. Perhaps I was too imprecise in labeling him “far right.” I guess “solidly conservative” would have been more accurate.
I think Miller, rather than taking a shot, was trying to place cable pundits on an ideological spectrum that didn’t really include the farthest fringes on either left or right.
I don’t know much about David Duke, but he would probably be more into the “extremist” camp, a bit further than my “far right” spectrum extends. Similarly, Stalin or Mao would be a bit further to the left than my “far left” definition.
My conclusion is you need to choose a different day, the one you’re got now isn’t seeing things too clearly.
Bless you, my son.
Not a journalist? LOL! Who ya gonna trust to be "journalists" - those accepted by the elites, or your lyin' eyes?
You think a guy that favored Rudy for President, which Hannity did until he was clearly out of the running, is to the “far right”? You may have stumbled onto the wrong board.
Okay, I read some of your later posts. Thanks for clarifying a bit.
A “Mainstream Republican” would be a fair description of Hannity. He’s too devoted to the establishment of the party to be a “mainstream conservative” entirely although he rides that line practically as it’s good business.
well said. anyone, (SH) who sucked off rooty toot nightly is no conservative! wake up people. hannity? northeastern liberal elite lover, that is sean hannity. good God.
You are so right. It's their egos. We need to forget ego and realize we are in a war. You don't shoot your own, just because they are not exactly like you, in a war. These people including and especially Savage need to grow up on this issue and realize that the sea is big enough to have more than one fish. I would like to see them support each other for a change. At least O'Reilly stuck up for Hannity and Beck. It shows a level of maturity and many consider him so egotistical.
The thing I really do not like about Beck is he constantly paints Republicans with the same filthy brush as the Democrats. Republicans may be far from perfect but they are not communist, American hating anarchist. The Republicans, have almost everyone, stood against all of the garbage that has been trying to be forced through Congress. For this they deserve credit, not to be demonized along with the likes of Pelosi and crowd. Look at the people Obama has surrounded himself with. The Republicans are in no way to be compared to or lumped with these baby killing, perversion promoting, American hating scumbags.
Beck might think that painting both Republicans and democrats with the same brush makes him look impartial and attracts independents but it is not fair. We desperately need this next election to go Republican, and very hopefully, Conservative Republican. Beck is not helping when he doesn't make the needed distinctions between the good guys and the bad guys. There are Republicans that need to be outed as RINOs but please, Beck, don't throw the baby out with the bath water. Especially when we desperately need this baby to save our Country!
Nice of BOR to defend both Hannity and Beck against the snide comments from that liberal idiot Miller.
BOR's summation of Beck's appeal is pretty spot on. But I'd also include that he delves deeper into issues, does his homework, and is not afraid to say on air what most of us are thinking and what the others hosts would not dare to say.
I like Beck. Everyday, he tells people he is not a journalist. He then challenges the media to step their game up and do the work he is trying to do.
I specifically remember Beck calling on reporters to investigate ACORN before the prostitution sting. He was saying that there is Pulitzer material there. No one in the MSM seems to care.
So, he may be a little over the top, but exposing the hypocrisy that runs rampant in DC.
I don’t care for Hannity. He just seems to be a mouth piece for the Republican party. Unfortunately, the Republican party has become Democrate Lite, just a slower run to big gov’t.
Got to remember that Sean Hannity is, and for a website such as FR, when it comes to talkradio show threads, the Hannity show thread is like a bridge thread between two powerhouse threads, Rush Limbaugh’s and Mark Levin’s. There are days when the Hannity thread is busy depending on the subject and there are days when it is just about dead. Plus it is an honor to post the Hannity thread as a way to honor the memory of rightinthemiddle who did a wonderful job setting up in the time period before I took over.
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