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Black Panther Answers ‘Overdue’
The Bulletin ^ | October 04, 2009 | MICHAEL P. TREMOGLIE

Posted on 10/04/2009 7:10:27 PM PDT by William Tell 2

Civil Rights Commission Chairman Seeks Responses In Voter Intimidation Case

The Chairman of the U.S. Civil Rights Commission, Gerald A. Reynolds, has sent a letter to U.S. Attorney General Eric Holder seeking answers to their questions about a voter intimidation case in Philadelphia involving the New Black Panther Party (NBPP). It considers the responses "overdue."

The letter, dated September 30, 2009, is seemingly an unprecedented action. It asks for Mr. Holder to "instruct Department officials to fully cooperate" with the Commission's investigation, as required by federal law.

The correspondence noted that the Commission still has not received any of the documents they requested in their initial June inquiries. It has questions surrounding the "unusual decision" by the DOJ ...

(Excerpt) Read more at thebulletin.us ...


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KEYWORDS: bho44; bhodoj; blackpanthers; corruption; democratcorruption; democrats; doj; holder; newblackpantherparty; obama; obamabrownshirts; racism; voterintimidation

1 posted on 10/04/2009 7:10:28 PM PDT by William Tell 2
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To: William Tell 2

Mr. Holder is “eating his waffles” and does not wish to be disturbed. Come back in a couple of years.


2 posted on 10/04/2009 7:14:19 PM PDT by kromike
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To: William Tell 2
Should any high school team really called the "BLACK PANTHERS"?

I'm smellin' lawsuit.

3 posted on 10/04/2009 7:15:51 PM PDT by Libloather (Tea Totaler, PROUD Birther, Mobster)
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To: William Tell 2

Malik Zulu Shabazz, chairman of the New Black Panther Party for Self-Defense (NBPP):
"We believe in a Black first philosophy and a Black Liberation Theology."
http://www.finalcall.com/artman/publish/article_1858.shtml
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“Although it [The New Black Panther Party] says it sees capitalism as the fundamental problem with the world and “revolution” as the solution, the new party does not draw its influences from Marxism or Maoism as the original party did. Instead, in a carefully-worded, roundabout form of ethnic nationalism,[8] they say that Marx based his ideology and teachings on indigenous African cultures, and that the NBPP therefore need not look to Marxism or Maoism as a basis for their program, but can look to ideologies that stem directly from those African origins.”

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Black_Panther_Party#Philosophy.2C_ideology.2C_and_criticism
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Source for the 3 photos above: New Black Panther Party Jerry Jackson's MySpace page.
Note: the page has very recently been deleted (~7/30/09) and now only exists in the following linked Google cache version, thus the long url:
http://74.125.95.132/search?q=cache:pHU5676QCrIJ:www.myspace.com/phillychiefofstaff+http://www.myspace.com/phillychiefofstaff&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us&client=safari

UPDATE! (Aug 3, 2009): The MySpace cache version has been dramatically altered and no longer contains the troubling images above and others like them. However, the following linked Washington Times article has several screen captures of the original page, although, for some reason, they apparently do not include any of them waving the guns around. Perhaps they do, I just didn't see any on my first attempt.

Washington Times, July 30, 2009...
"Disturbing content on New Black Panther's MySpace page":
http://www.washingtontimes.com/weblogs/watercooler/2009/jul/30/disturbing-content-new-black-panthers-myspace-page/
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That's Jerry Jackson on the right.

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"Security" patrols stationed at polling places in Philly:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=neGbKHyGuHU
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Also see:

Black Panthers intimidate voters in Philadelphia with night stick:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HzBVxP5wzCY

And...

The New Black Panther Party’s teachable moments on race:
http://michellemalkin.com/2009/08/02/the-new-black-panther-partys-teachable-moments-on-race/

4 posted on 10/04/2009 7:18:08 PM PDT by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: William Tell 2

shabazz and shabazz? Same sperm donors for “fathers”?


5 posted on 10/04/2009 7:18:27 PM PDT by Eagles6 ( Typical White Guy: Christian, Constitutionalist, Heterosexual, Redneck. (Let them eat arugula!))
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To: William Tell 2

I can only tell you that in the continuing rat-race, it appears, for now at least, that the rats have won.


6 posted on 10/04/2009 7:21:34 PM PDT by RobinOfKingston (Democrats, the party of evil. Republicans, the party of stupid.)
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To: William Tell 2

It would serve this county well to have Mr. Holder investigate the Black Panther voter intimidation charges and leave the CIA agents alone.


7 posted on 10/04/2009 7:22:35 PM PDT by notpoliticallycorewrecked (According to the MSM, I'm a fringe sitting, pajama wearing Freeper)
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To: RobinOfKingston

Even if you win the rat race, you’re still a rat.


8 posted on 10/04/2009 7:25:09 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (The Democrat party is a criminal enterprise.)
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To: William Tell 2

but Michelle will continue to wear their colors


9 posted on 10/04/2009 7:38:23 PM PDT by dalebert
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To: ETL; sit-rep; Squantos; Eaker; Joe Brower; Travis McGee

Fingers on the trigger, piece of crap guns. Not saying I am underestimating these goons. Crazies should not be underestimated. But one on one, these dipsh!ts would be outclassed by any trained gun owner.


10 posted on 10/04/2009 7:42:57 PM PDT by Larry Lucido (This tagline excerpted. To read more, click on MyOverratedBlog.com)
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To: William Tell 2
This idea that Democratic party rule is illegitimate because of voter fraud needs to me emphasized over-and-over.
11 posted on 10/04/2009 7:57:24 PM PDT by mc6809e
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To: William Tell 2

Asking AG Holder for details is RACIST!


12 posted on 10/04/2009 8:05:25 PM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.)
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To: William Tell 2
Eric Holder's role in the pardons of BLA (Black Liberation Army) comrades/Weather Underground members, Susan Rosenberg and Linda Evans (1983 Brinks Truck robbery and triple murder):
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2165052/posts

Eric Holder, Bill Clinton, Wright's 'Black Liberation' "church", and the pardons of 16 members of the Puerto Rican Marxist terrorist group FALN:(Wright's Marxist BLT 'church' (Obama's 'church' for 20+ years) advocated for FALN terrorists)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2165024/posts
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"Fraunces Tavern is a restaurant and museum in lower Manhattan, New York City. It was built on the site of a former building which played a significant role in pre-Revolutionary activities, and in which, on 4 December 1783, General George Washington bade farewell to his officers at the end of the Revolution, before returning to his home, Mount Vernon."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fraunces_Tavern
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"During the 1970s and 1980s, FALN members set off at least 138 bombs in five major U.S. Cities. Six Americans were killed in those attacks. One of those bombings, in January 1975, was at the historic Fraunces Tavern in lower Manhattan while patrons were at lunch. The explosion killed four and injured more than 50."

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2008/05/bill_hillary_and_the_faln.html
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"Between 1974 and 1985 the FALN (Puerto Rican Armed Forces of National Liberation) organized 120 terrorist bombings in the United States. Many Americans were killed in those bombings, and many more were crippled. In 1983, another Puerto Rican terrorist group known as the Macheteros, attacked and robbed a Wells Fargo armored car in Connecticut. The Macheteros intended to use the money to finance a terrorist campaign against the United States. Working under the cover of Puerto Rican nationalism and claiming to act on behalf of the 'oppressed people of Puerto Rico,' the FALN and the Macheteros are nothing but Communist revolutionaries. Both groups were organized by Fidel Castro's secret police. The ultimate goal of the FALN and the Macheteros is the creation of an independent Marxist-Leninist dictatorship on the island of Puerto Rico."
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=19760

13 posted on 10/04/2009 8:10:29 PM PDT by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: Larry Lucido

I just wonder if any of the guys in the photos have prior felony convictions that would make the photos themselves evidence of another crime. Just sayin’


14 posted on 10/04/2009 8:36:48 PM PDT by joesjane (The strength of the pack is the wolf - Rudyard Kipling)
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To: Larry Lucido

Well said yet I no more care what color a person is if they attack me or mine........... !

They better be good and fast at their chosen profession. Dressing up like a bunch of clown posse posers is their first mistake.


15 posted on 10/04/2009 9:31:04 PM PDT by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But have a plan to kill everyone you meet)
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Interesting...Shabazz shares the name with al shabazz, the Al Queda group acting up in Somolia with recent visitors from MN. Wonder if there is any connection.


16 posted on 10/04/2009 9:59:05 PM PDT by FreeStateYank (I want my country and constitution back, now!)
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To: dalebert; All

“Michelle will continue to wear their colors”

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They’re all a bunch of racist, degenerate morons.

They live as thugs and more often then not they die as thugs.


17 posted on 10/05/2009 4:21:44 AM PDT by Canedawg (FUBO)
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To: ETL

I am pretty sure that one of those “guns” is a starter pistol or a .22 at best. What a dope.


18 posted on 10/05/2009 4:24:37 AM PDT by ajwharton (FL GOP Pollwatcher, ACORN-buster)
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To: Canedawg

Check out the pic on Drudge...that ass is huge, but those arms are toned.


19 posted on 10/05/2009 5:22:46 AM PDT by steve8714 (There's a straight line from John Wilkes Booth through Paul Robeson to Sean Penn.)
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To: ajwharton

Notice also that the same two guns are used in both photos.


20 posted on 10/05/2009 5:26:07 AM PDT by MrB (Go Galt now, save Bowman for later)
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To: Larry Lucido

Regardiong the gun handling skills of the trash in the pictures, Squatting Trash has his gun pointed at Standing Strash’s tenders.

Squatting Trash and Standing Trash have their fingers inside the trigger guard.

Both seem a few fish short of a full stringer.

Neither of them would be allowed to shoot on any range I know of. Step back from that keyboard, Libtards! - I’m not a racist.

On the other hand, I am a Range Safety officer, and I know arrogant, brainless, danger when I see it.

PS A good dose of smart pills would help both of them.


21 posted on 10/05/2009 10:52:40 AM PDT by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon freedom, it is essential to examine principles,)
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To: GladesGuru

Please forgive the typos, my hemoglobin titre in my caffeine stream is far too high.


22 posted on 10/05/2009 10:54:28 AM PDT by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon freedom, it is essential to examine principles,)
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To: ETL
LMAO! They cant be series....


23 posted on 10/05/2009 10:57:35 AM PDT by Snurple (VEGETARIAN, OLD INDIAN WORD FOR BAD HUNTER.)
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To: Snurple
LMAO! They cant be series....

Of course the NBPP is 'series'. They and other black revolutionary communist groups have murdered lots of people in the past, mostly police officers. The Black Liberation Army teamed with the Weather Underground to carry out several high-profile attacks, including the 1981 Brinks truck robbery/triple murder and various other cop killings and bombings in San Fran and New York.

24 posted on 10/05/2009 11:16:04 AM PDT by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: William Tell 2

Lots of “unprecedented” sh*t coming from this administration.


25 posted on 10/05/2009 11:18:56 AM PDT by Sir Gawain
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To: GladesGuru

The only critique of your post is that you fear being called a racist by the left. Time has long passed for that to be a fear that anyone should have.


26 posted on 10/05/2009 11:21:11 AM PDT by MrB (Go Galt now, save Bowman for later)
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To: All

Salute to our Black Power General
Dr. Khallid Abdul Muhammad
January 12, 1948 - February 17, 2001

Source: New Black Panther Party:
http://www.newblackpanther.com/
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From David Horowitz's
FrontPageMag.com/DiscoverTheNetworks.org

PROFILE: KHALID ABDUL MUHAMMAD

  • Former spokesman for Nation of Islam
  • Became chairman of New Black Panther Party in 1998
  • Deceased in 2001

    Muhammad referred to Jews as people whose ancestors were cannibals who “crawled around on all fours in the caves and hills of Europe” and “slept in [their] urination and [their] defecation... for 2,000 years.” He characterized contemporary Jews as “slumlords in the black community” who were busy “sucking our [blacks’] blood on a daily and consistent basis.” He said that Jews had provoked Adolf Hitler when they “went in there, in Germany, the way they do everywhere they go, and they supplanted, they usurped.” And he declared that blacks, in retribution against South African whites of the apartheid era, should “kill the women,…kill the children,…kill the babies,…kill the blind,…kill the crippled,…kill the faggot,…kill the lesbian,...kill them all.”

    On subsequent occasions, Muhammad praised Colin Ferguson, a black man who had shot some twenty white and Asian commuters (killing six of them) in a racially motivated 1993 shooting spree aboard a New York commuter train, as a hero who possessed the courage to “just kill every goddamn cracker that he saw.” He advised blacks that “there are no good crackers, and if you find one, kill him before he changes.” He told a Donahue television audience in May 1994 that “[t]here is a little bit of Hitler in all white people.” He characterized black conservatives as “boot-licking, butt-licking, bamboozled, half-baked, half-fried, sissified, punkified, pasteurized, homogenized Nigger[s].” On May 21, 1997 he told a San Francisco State University audience that the "white man" is "a no-good bastard. He's not a devil, the white man is the Devil." In September 1997 he said, "If you say you're white, goddammit I'm against you. If you're a Jew, I'm against you. Whatever the hell you want to call yourself, I'm against you."

    http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/individualProfile.asp?indid=2045


27 posted on 10/05/2009 11:26:33 AM PDT by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: All
From Jeff Head's website...
One notable quote from [James] Cone describing his Black Liberation Theology is as follows:

"Black theology refuses to accept a God who is not identified totally with the goals of the black community. If God is not for us and against white people, then he is a murderer, and we had better kill him. The task of black theology is to kill Gods who do not belong to the black community ... Black theology will accept only the love of God which participates in the destruction of the white enemy. What we need is the divine love as expressed in Black Power, which is the power of black people to destroy their oppressors here and now by any means at their disposal. Unless God is participating in this holy activity, we must reject his love." - "Divine Racism: The Unacknowledged Threshold Issue for Black Theology", in African-American Religious Thought: An Anthology, by William R Jones, ed Cornel West and Eddie Glaube (Westminster John Knox Press).
http://www.jeffhead.com/blacklibtheology.htm

African American Religious Thought: An Anthology (Paperback)
by Cornel West (Editor), Eddie S. Glaude Jr. (Editor)
http://www.amazon.com/African-American-Religious-Thought-Anthology/dp/0664224598
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SEAN HANNITY: But Reverend Jeremiah Wright is not backing down and has not for years and in his strong stance on the teaching of black liberation theology is nothing new. He had the same things to say last spring when he appeared on "Hannity & Colmes:"

WRIGHT: If you're not going to talk about theology in context, if you're not going to talk about liberation theology that came out of the '60s, systematized black liberation theology that started with Jim Cone in 1968 and the writings of Cone and the writings of Dwight Hopkins and the writings of womynist theologians and Asian theologians and Hispanic theologians, then you can't talk about the black value system.

HANNITY: But I'm a — reverend

WRIGHT: Do you know liberation theology, sir?

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,354158,00.html
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For all you'll ever need or want to know about Wright's
RACIST, COMMUNIST "Black Liberation Theology",
see my FR Home page:
http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/

Hint...

"Their founding document [the Weather Underground's] called for the establishment of a "white fighting force" to be allied with the "Black Liberation Movement" and other "anti-colonial" movements[1] to achieve "the destruction of US imperialism and the achievement of a classless world: world communism."..."-Berger, Dan (2006). Outlaws of America: The Weather Underground and the Politics of Solidarity. AK Press, 95.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weatherman_Underground#cite_ref-Berger_0-0

Outlaws of America: The Weather Underground and the Politics of Solidarity (Paperback) by Dan Berger
http://www.amazon.com/Outlaws-America-Underground-Politics-Solidarity/dp/1904859410
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Rev. Dr. Jeremiah Wright and Dr. William Ayers
are greeted by Rebekah Levin with the Committee
for a Just Peace in Israel and Palestine.
(Chuck Berman/Chicago Tribune / May 17, 2009)
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/chi-ayers_wrightmay18,0,6689521.story

28 posted on 10/05/2009 11:32:09 AM PDT by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: MrB

Given that I still have the old 21/4 x 31/4 B&W negatives I took at the first March on Washington, I really don’t worry about being called a racist.

On the other hand, I do like an opportunity to tweak Liberals.

;-)


29 posted on 10/05/2009 11:37:52 AM PDT by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon freedom, it is essential to examine principles,)
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To: Snurple

Re: They and other black revolutionary communist groups have murdered lots of people in the past...

Correction: They and other black revolutionary communist groups have *advocated* for murdering white people and police officers. While the Black Liberation Army and the original 1960s Black Panther Party actually DID commit murders, I don’t know if the New Black Panther Party were behind or part of any, although I certainly wouldn’t doubt it.


30 posted on 10/05/2009 11:39:03 AM PDT by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: William Tell 2

I don’t know if any of you have seen this mini-documentary....but it’s certainly worth a look. Al Sharpton is in it, too. Louis Theroux does a ‘tongue in cheek’ style reporting....but he soon found out a bit more than he planned with this.

http://topdocumentaryfilms.com/louis-theroux-on-black-nationalism/


31 posted on 10/05/2009 11:51:54 AM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear ('They're drinking the juice.'~ Barack H. Obama)
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To: RushIsMyTeddyBear

As a matter of fact I have and I even taped it.


32 posted on 10/05/2009 11:58:17 AM PDT by William Tell 2
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To: William Tell 2

Mr. Holder, the 80 million gunowners of the USA demand an answer!!!! They will not wait forever.


33 posted on 10/05/2009 11:59:21 AM PDT by CPT Clay (Pick up your weapon and follow me.)
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To: Larry Lucido

They only have the ‘ranks’ they do because they are part of an insular military that gives ranks not on actual skill through endurance testing, but whether or not you hate whites, hispanics, and asians enough.


34 posted on 10/05/2009 12:06:05 PM PDT by Niuhuru (The Internet is the digital AIDS; adapting and successfully destroying the MSM host.)
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To: ETL

I wonder if they hate Asians as well, or suppose that Asians would gladly kill ‘whitey’ as much as they (black panthers) would like them to.

Of course, the thought that an Asian would rather spit in their faces and grind them under their boots perhaps does not cross the minds of these militant idiots.


35 posted on 10/05/2009 12:07:46 PM PDT by Niuhuru (The Internet is the digital AIDS; adapting and successfully destroying the MSM host.)
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To: William Tell 2
The incident was blatant voter intimidation and there is no room for debate on that fact. That the Obama admin isn’t prosecuting is criminal and invalidates Obama’s presidency. If Obama is going to obstruct justice then it’s time to impeach....not that I want the idiot Biden to be president.
36 posted on 10/05/2009 12:55:36 PM PDT by highlander_UW (To anger a conservative tell him a lie. To anger a liberal tell him the truth.)
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To: William Tell 2


Black Panthers with nightsticks intimidating voters? No Problem, says OJ dept.


37 posted on 10/05/2009 1:53:14 PM PDT by chuck_the_tv_out ( <<< click my name: now featuring Freeper classifieds)
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To: Owl_Eagle; brityank; Physicist; WhyisaTexasgirlinPA; GOPJ; abner; baseballmom; Mo1; Ciexyz; ...

ping


38 posted on 10/05/2009 2:18:25 PM PDT by Tribune7 (I am Joe Wilson!)
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To: ETL

Brilliant!

Rather than modeling their philosophical system after the highly successful, freedom-granting, prosperity-producing nations that did so through Marxism or Maoism, they have chosen the even more successful pattern of the indigenous African tribes- the ideal models of health, wealth, freedom and success.

I get it now!

/s


39 posted on 10/05/2009 3:55:25 PM PDT by unlearner (You will never come to know that which you do not know until you first know that you do not know it.)
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To: unlearner

For the sake of clarity for other readers, here is what you are referring to...

“Although it [The New Black Panther Party] says it sees capitalism as the fundamental problem with the world and “revolution” as the solution, the new party does not draw its influences from Marxism or Maoism as the original party did. Instead, in a carefully-worded, roundabout form of ethnic nationalism,[8] they say that Marx based his ideology and teachings on indigenous African cultures, and that the NBPP therefore need not look to Marxism or Maoism as a basis for their program, but can look to ideologies that stem directly from those African origins.”

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Black_Panther_Party#Philosophy.2C_ideology.2C_and_criticism

In any case, it’s still basically communism.


40 posted on 10/05/2009 4:06:02 PM PDT by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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From Wikipedia: Primitive communism...

Primitive communism is:[1]

A term usually associated with Karl Marx, but most fully elaborated by Friedrich Engels (in The Origin of the Family, 1884[2]), and referring to the collective right to basic resources, egalitarianism in social relationships, and absence of authoritarian rule and hierarchy that is supposed to have preceded stratification and exploitation in human history. Both Marx and Engels were heavily influenced by Lewis Henry Morgan’s speculative evolutionary history, which described the ‘liberty, equality and fraternity of the ancient gentes’, and the ‘communism in living’ said to be evident in the village architecture of [the Iroquois, an indigenous people of the Americas].

The model of primitive communism applies to early human societies because hunter-gatherer societies had no stratification order and did not create surplus.[3] Furthermore primitive societies may have contained all of the features presently associated with the goals of “communism”.

In a primitive communist society, all able bodied persons would have engaged in obtaining food, and everyone would share in what was produced by hunting and gathering. There would be almost no private property, other than articles of clothing and similar personal items, because primitive society produced no surplus; what was produced was quickly consumed. The few things that existed for any length of time (tools, housing) were held communally.[4] There would have been no state.

Domestication of animals and plants following the Neolithic Revolution through herding and agriculture was seen as the turning point from primitive communism to class society as it was followed by private ownership and slavery, with the inequality that it entailed. In addition, parts of the population specialized in different activities, such as manufacturing, culture, philosophy, and science which is said to lead to the development of social classes.[4]

Those groups that advocate a return to or are inspired by hunter-gatherer society are associated with the movement of anarcho-primitivism.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Primitive_communism


41 posted on 10/05/2009 4:10:37 PM PDT by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: ETL

Yes. Thanks for your posts. Both insightful and informative.

These folks’ views would be laughable if they weren’t so insidious.

For all this great nation’s flaws and wrinkles, I can’t fathom why so many would like to make it more like Mexico, or African or Arab nations.


42 posted on 10/05/2009 9:13:57 PM PDT by unlearner (You will never come to know that which you do not know until you first know that you do not know it.)
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To: unlearner

More like Cuba and Venezuela.


43 posted on 10/05/2009 9:30:08 PM PDT by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: ETL

Unfortunately true.


44 posted on 10/05/2009 9:41:40 PM PDT by unlearner (You will never come to know that which you do not know until you first know that you do not know it.)
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To: Tribune7; William Tell 2

To survive this illegal administration, I recommend buying lead, brass, steel, and aluminum in specified shapes, with various wooden and plastic furnishings.

Bump.


45 posted on 10/06/2009 9:42:00 AM PDT by brityank (The more I learn about the Constitution, the more I realise this Government is UNconstitutional !! Â)
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To: Owl_Eagle; brityank; Physicist; WhyisaTexasgirlinPA; GOPJ; abner; baseballmom; Mo1; Ciexyz; ...

ping


46 posted on 10/06/2009 11:48:11 AM PDT by Tribune7 (I am Joe Wilson!)
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