Posted on 09/28/2009 11:08:49 PM PDT by Walter Scott Hudson
This week we let listeners in on our family deliberation of whether we should take the seasonal flu vaccine. We also discuss the forthcoming H1N1 vaccination and some alarming steps by different levels of government to suspend liberty to contain an outbreak. Plus, how do we make a real difference on these and other issues which concern us?
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Why in the Lord’s name would anyone take the seasonal flu vaccine now that the H1N1 is over 99% of all new infections...the seasonal flu has disappeared.
thanks, bfl
Maybe because seasonal flu normally kills thirty six thousand Americans each year, and H1N1 has killed about thirtysix HUNDRED people WORLDWIDE so far?
According to Anne Schuchat of the CDC (September 11), 98% of new influenza cases in the United States are novel H1N1.
Only 1-2% of all current flulike infections are seasonal flu.
Therefore, your chance of becoming infected with the strain in the seasonal flu shot is quite minimal. The high transmission rate of H1N1 is crowding the seasonal flu strain out of existence.
In addition, studies in Canada are suggesting that the seasonal flu shot may INCREASE your susceptibility to the H1N1 virus......
http://680news.com/news/national/more.jsp?content=n243967226
HAS ANYONE READ WHERE THESE VACCINES ARE MADE?
We hear TV and Newspapers and Magazines talk and print, “the next shipment of, will be distributed to, the U.S. expects more arrivals of,” and like that.
We (I) have never heard where from and who makes these vaccines.
The Great Unvaccinated Unwashed want to know before being jabbed.
Wherefore art thou no-name pharaceutical company?
So, if you got a seasonal flu shot last fall, it keeps the swine flu at a mild level for you this year. Interesting.
Thanks.
It’s still quite early for seasonal flu. We’ll see more cases in the coming months.
Thanks for the ping!
“According to Anne Schuchat of the CDC (September 11), 98% of new influenza cases in the United States are novel H1N1.
Only 1-2% of all current flulike infections are seasonal flu. Therefore, your chance of becoming infected with the strain in the seasonal flu shot is quite minimal. The high transmission rate of H1N1 is crowding the seasonal flu strain out of existence.”
That’s because seasonal flu usually doesn’t start ramping up until November. Swine flu has started much earlier. Were there no swine flu, we would not expect to be seeing very many flu cases at all yet. So the high percentage of swine flu now occurs.
But your facts, quoted above, are meaningless with respect to whether the seasonal flu vaccination is a good idea. My Dr. tells me the seasonal cases he has seen so far this year are nasty.
Unfortunately, the seasonal flu virus that you are protected from in the current flu vaccine is NO longer circulating. A new H3N2 virus is taking it’s place which is not covered by the flu shot in circulation at this time.
Additionally, as I said previously, Canadian researchers are finding there may be a connection between receiving a flu shot and subsequent increased susceptibility to the swine flu and thus are recommending that their citizens under 65 not get a seasonal flu shot.
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/national/more-flu-programs-suspended/article1304958/
I am also surprised that your Dr. would say the seasonal flu they have seen so far is nasty.
How can anyone definitively say which strain they are dealing with as office tests are unreliable and the symptoms are similar between the two? ....
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/33006971/ns/health-swine_flu/
Unfortunately, the seasonal flu virus that you are protected from in the current flu vaccine is NO longer circulating. A new H3N2 virus is taking it’s place which is not covered by the flu shot in circulation at this time.
Additionally, as I said previously, Canadian researchers are finding there may be a connection between receiving a flu shot and subsequent increased susceptibility to the swine flu and thus are recommending that their citizens under 65 not get a seasonal flu shot.
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/national/more-flu-programs-suspended/article1304958/
I am also surprised that your Dr. would say the seasonal flu they have seen so far is nasty.
How can anyone definitively say which strain they are dealing with as office tests are unreliable and the symptoms are similar between the two? ....
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/33006971/ns/health-swine_flu/
Unfortunately, the seasonal flu virus that you are protected from in the current flu vaccine is NO longer circulating. A new H3N2 virus is taking it’s place which is not covered by the flu shot in circulation at this time.
Additionally, as I said previously, Canadian researchers are finding there may be a connection between receiving a flu shot and subsequent increased susceptibility to the swine flu and thus are recommending that their citizens under 65 not get a seasonal flu shot.
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/national/more-flu-programs-suspended/article1304958/
I am also surprised that your Dr. would say the seasonal flu they have seen so far is nasty.
How can anyone definitively say which strain they are dealing with as office tests are unreliable and the symptoms are similar between the two? ....
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/33006971/ns/health-swine_flu/
“I am also surprised that your Dr. would say the seasonal flu they have seen so far is nasty.”
I’m not. He’s been treating it—last week, this week. So his information is kind of current.
According to him, there are two groups of flu coming in right now: (1) A three day fever, aches, nausea (milder than a typical flu), which are swabbing H1N1. This is most of the current cases; (2) A much longer, nastier flu (one week or more). Folks with that pattern aren’t swabbing H1N1.
He has a busy practice so he’s seeing a decent sample of what’s circulating on the CO front range.
BTW, my son and my wife both have “the swine” (that’s what the kids here are calling it) as we speak. From talking to other parents, it seems like about 1/4 of the kids in the Denver area have it (my nephew and several kids in his class tested positive too). All got better in the 3-4 day range although, on the day my nephew got sick, only 8 of 23 kids in his class were healty enough to attend.
So what I’m seeing anecdotally pretty much lines up with what the Dr. says.
In any event, at the rate it’s spreading, it’ll be over fast and immunity will be widespread.
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