Posted on 09/11/2009 12:11:01 PM PDT by STARWISE
Today, CanadaFreePress writer JB Williams posted a column discussing the two legally different documents that the Democratic National Committee produced to serve to the several Secretaries of State, in theory, certifying their presidential and vice-presidential candidates.
The punchline?
The one actually received by the States did not include language specifically referring to constitutional eligibility.
Here’s AmericanDaughter.com’s take on the above-referenced article:
Barack Obama and Joe Biden were not certified as legally eligible in the affidavits sent to the states by the Democratic National Committee. The tireless research of political writer J.B. Williams has uncovered the discrepancy.
His bombshell article appears in the Canada Free Press — The Theory is Now a Conspiracy And Facts Don’t Lie:
Aware of the fact that Barack Hussein Obama does NOT meet Article II – Section I constitutional requirements for the office of President, what well-seasoned professional politician would be stupid enough to sign their name and stake their personal career upon certifying Obama as eligible?….
The proper legal text used on the DNC Party “Official Certification of Nomination” document reads as follows, and I quote:
“THIS IS TO CERTIFY that at the National Convention of the Democrat Party of the United States of America, held in Denver, Colorado on August 25 though 28, 2008, the following were duly nominated as candidates of said Party for President and Vice President of the United States respectively and that the following candidates for President and Vice President of the United States are legally qualified to serve under the provisions of the United States Constitution.”….
The “Official Certification of Nomination” that was presented by the DNC in all fifty states for the 2008 Presidential election, in which Barack Hussein Obama became the new President of the United States, was almost identical, and it too was singed by Chair of the DNC Convention and Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi, DNC Secretary Alice Travis Germond and Notary of Public Shalifa A. Williamson, dated August 28, 2008.
But this version of the document was missing the following text, and I quote;
“- and that the following candidates for President and Vice President of the United States are legally qualified to serve under the provisions of the United States Constitution.”
The legal certification text on the DNC certified nomination document used for the DNC ticket was limited to, and I quote;
“THIS IS TO CERTIFY that at the National Convention of the Democrat Party of the United States of America, held in Denver, Colorado on August 25 though 28, 2008, the following were duly nominated as candidates of said Party for President and Vice President of the United States respectively:…”
Williams concludes that to cover this up in the face of overwhelming evidence that Obama is not legally eligible to be president would have required complicity throughout the Democratic Party and in all three branches of government.
As a minimum, every one of the fifty state election boards must have realized that they did not receive the proper form.
We have to agree. We have been cataloguing the mounting evidence since the primary campaign, and have remained in disbelief that so many intelligent folk could refuse to see the obvious.
As Mr. Williams’ article goes on to state (the whole article is well worth the read), here’s a copy of the RNC document:
The RNC “Official Certification of Nomination” for John McCain and Sarah Palin reads, and I quote:
“We do hereby certify that a national convention of Delegates representing the Republican Party of the United States, duly held and convened in the city of Saint Paul, State of Minnesota, on September 4, 2008, the following person, meeting the constitutional requirements for the Office of President of the United States, and the following person, meeting the constitutional requirements for the Office of Vice President of the Unites States, were nominated for such offices to be filled at the ensuing general election, November 4, 2008, viz;”
The certification of constitutional eligibility is there in the RNC Certification of Nomination presented to the state Election Commissions. It’s there in the document which the DNC had prepared, signed and notarized, but did NOT deliver to the states.
At first glance, I was rather skeptical at the original posting until I started to do some research in my own archives (I would be remiss if I didn’t mention the absolute yeoman’s work that Justin Riggs has performed over at yourfellowcitizen.com which forms a fundamental basis for what I’ve similarly archived).
*snip*
Instead, as I had reported here, when House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-CA) made her certification (as referenced above), she certified that Messrs. Obama and Biden were duly-nominated candidates for the party, not that they were eligible for such nominations.
The fundamental question is thus:
Why would the Democratic National Committee’s political heads sign off on two legally distinct documents but then send the one with lesser verbiage to be formally accepted by the States?
Remember, it doesn’t matter what a candidate claims about eligibility insofar as their being nominated by their party. After all, each political party in America sifts through a number of potential candidates as a means to whittle the field down to who they think represents their party best.
Then — as I and others have clearly shown — it’s the responsibility of the political party to do such vetting and certifying that their candidate can be put on a given State’s ballot for that general election. At least that’s what States have claimed, to date.
Friday, September 11, 2009 Update: The wonderful thing about making postings on a blog is the kind of responses one gets — vetting of articles. Here is some commentary from this posting that might help to explain the differences between the two documents:
One source — via email — explained to me that certain States have different requirements for what needs to be on the party certification forms.
Commenter “Robert” makes reference to jbjd’s site (specifically, here and here):
hole E chit !
bookmark & BTTT !!
This is all news to meek. REEKS of conspiracy. I am not one of those convinced that Obama is not a natural born citizen, but stuff like this and his huge expenditure just to hide his birth certificate, moves me closer that way.
Maybe someone can did up the Clinton, Carter, Johnson and Kennedy versions. Now that would be an interesting comparison.
~~PING!
When I read the referenced article by Williams, I had the same thought: I already read about this last month? He is just now figuring it out?
wow
coverup of the millenium, it appears
no wonder pelosi’s facial expression is frozen like a deer in the headlights and she acts so nervous- she’s part of this if it ever gets to court- so she is blackmailable
Why isn’t this getting more play...........or, why am I asking why?
Thank you for posting on this. I’ve been following the other thread with the Canada Free Press article, and this one takes it just a step further.
I’d like to see this go viral. If it wasn’t Nancy Pelosi, I’d say it was unbelievable, but she would do anything. Seriously, I think she would.
This is actually quite amazing and one would think it could serve the as an exhibit in the upcoming Santa Ana legal proceedings. If I were the judge it would certainly raise my eyebrows.
I am totally convinced. There is no way he would not just cough up the documentation if he had it. He never has released his school files either. Manchurian Candidate. He was put in to subert the Constitution.
BUMP!
Another article by JB Williams:
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JB Williams
http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/12999
(snip)
Every member of the Supreme Court, every member of congress, every member of the Joint Chiefs, most members of the DOD, CIA, FBI, Secret Service and state run media, ABC, CBS, NBC, CNN, PBS, NPR, MSNBC, Fox and print news, knows that Barack Hussein Obama does NOT meet Article II – Section I constitutional requirements for the office he holds. By his own biography, there is NO way he can pass the test. The hard evidence is so far beyond overwhelming, it is ridiculous.
(snip)
But not ONE member of America’s most powerful people will dare confront Obama and his anti-American cabal on the subject. The Constitution does NOT stand.
(snip)
Half of the people you expect to stop this insanity are quiet co-conspirators in the silent coup. The other half is paralyzed by fear, motivated only by political self-preservation.
(Snip)
Americans keep asking what they can do because they see that none of their leaders are doing anything to stop the demise of their beloved country. It’s the right question, because those leaders are NOT going to stop this thing.
(Snip)
WHO WILL SAVE FREEDOM?
A brave few… This is how it was in the beginning, how it has always been and how it will be.
(Snip)
DR. ORLY TAITZ, Phil Berg and Gary Kreep, ALL OF WHOM HAVE MADE DEFENDING THE CONSTITUTION AND THE AMERICAN WAY OF LIFE A PERSONAL AMBITION, IN THE ABSENCE OF ANY CONSTITUTION LEADERSHIP.
(Snip)
A PRECIOUS FEW, BUT THEY EXIST… and the walls are indeed closing in on Obama and his evil cabal. IF THE AMERICAN PEOPLE FAIL TO GET BEHIND THESE BRAVE FEW WHO ARE SEEKING PEACEFUL REDRESS, ALL THE PEACEFUL OPTIONS WILL EVAPORATE AS IF THEY NEVER EXISTED. WE WILL RETURN TO A PRE-1776 AMERICA OVERNIGHT..
Do YOU fear Obama?
http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/12999
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A precious few, indeed. Lets get behind those few brave patriots who are out there in the trenches every day working to prove Obama’s inelgibility:
Dr. Orly has put her life’s blood into this fight. SHE HAS MADE DEFENDING THE CONSTITUTION AND THE AMERICAN WAY OF LIFE A PERSONAL AMBITION, IN THE ABSENCE OF ANY CONSTITUTION LEADERSHIP FROM COWARDLY REPUBLICANS AND THE SCOTUS.
Dr. Orly is the ONLY one out there in the trenches EVERY day hitting Obama on multiple fronts and trying to bring him down. It is reported that she is more than $8,000 in debt from using her own funds for expenses in her flights across the U.S for interviews, speeches, serving papers and meeting with officials.
She has even gone to Isreal and Russia to spread the message about Obama’s inelgibility!
She states the case expertly, including the bc and natural born citizen aspect, when not abused by the U.S. state-controlled media. http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/132880
Sure, Dr. Orly makes mistakes. We all do. But Dr. Orly is no dummy. How many of us could go to a foreign country, learn 5 languages, establish a successful dental practice, a successful real estate business AND pass the California state bar- one of the hardest in the U.S. to pass?
She may be a ‘mail order’ attorney and not a Harvard lawyer, but she IS an attorney with all the rights and privilages of a Harvard lawyer nevertheless!
The point is; she has the passion, the zeal, the courage of her convictions and the love of America and its freedoms (unlike many of our ‘great’ attorneys and ‘patriots’ who criticize her) that will not let her give up!
She is exhausted. She is nervous. She is frustrated. It is reported that she gets by on 4-5 hours of sleep per night, and her family is very worried about her health- as well as her safety.
She makes mistakes. But she will NOT give up. She will keep on until she gets it right.
So let’s get behind this great little Russian refugee and great American patriot.
Stop tearing her apart. The Obots don’t need our help.
The obots are scared to death of this little lady and her determination. That’s why they come out in droves all over the net on forums, chat rooms and even the national news to attack and ridicule.
Orly Taitz needs to know this.
Here ya go, genius.
More background
The last part of the article states that different states may have different requirements. Perhaps that explains the two forms.
This has been around for a while. You need me to explain what’s going on?
No. I already know.
LOL ... thanks.
Did some research yesterday, and found I first
posted the discrepancies on July 30, 2009. I
almost deleted the 2nd image for the muddiness
of it, thinking it was just a poor copy.
Then I read the text in both.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2304218/posts?page=173#173
Why would any state take out the part about him being constitutionally qualified?
Read the end of the article. I was merely restating what the author wrote.
Post an example of two states having different requirements.
I call BS
It seems old JB Williams ripped off the article.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/2337432/posts?page=28#28
This guy posted this way back in Dec 08, almost word for word.. just an FYI so the right person gets the credit.
Oh FGS!!! Read the article. It’s not my statement. It’s the author of the article’s statement......
I dismissed the assertion as ludicrous.
You thought it has merit. I want to know why, and what evidence you know about to support the claim.
No I didn’t, and I’m not answering you again.
Better yet, find the DNC submittals to all the States for last election (2004) and compare the texts.
That wouold be prima facia proof.
ping
Indeed he was put in to convert the US goverment to communism. Without a doubt. Obama is a radical communist Muslim. He was the pick of the US communist movement to advance their agenda from the presidency.
He was put in power by the communists to advance US communism. There is no doubt.
I thought to myself that I am one lucky person that they were both born within 1 mile on the American side of the border.
I wonder if any of the officials at state DNC would read it and know that was missing ???
The state chairmen who received it would be different people than in 2004 which would have been the last time a document likme this was sent to the states...
Since it was not a “format” document it may have been different every time as long as the basic words were there etc ...
Unless they were looking for those words, they may have not noticed...just filed it and kept it safe...
And who would cherish and pour over and drool about that particular document ???
Oh yeah we’re talking about moonbats...
It should not be hard to look at all 50 and to compare to past as well as to know what the law is in each state...if someone knows how to do this, which I don’t. But surely they are public record and saved and are not secret.
Secretary of State’s office. They may be online. Can we get 50 volunteers to find the 2004 certifications? I’ll poke around the Illinois SoS website.
Does anyone have a line to JB Williams? We can let him know that some FR help may be in the offing.
Yes it would ... Kerry, Gore
Let the sleuthing begin!
The last part of the article states that different states may have different requirements. Perhaps that explains the two forms.
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And that is very possible .. such muddy areas.
The referenced Justin Riggs has a website
http://www.yourfellowcitizen.com
and he apparently did a lot of legwork
months back.
I have just requested from the NC State Board of Elections their copy/version of the form that is the subject of this excellent post. I will keep my fellow FReepers informed as to my success.
Thank you!
I recalled that Hawai maybe others needed the legally qualified in the nominating doc, and I found another one, South Carolina. I do not know which doc was submitted to them but we need to find out.
Everybody, everywhere in this great country needs to do exactly the same thing. Let’s get all 50 of them here on FR and do a group comparison. I’ll buy the adult beverages!
Found an early DNC certification, posted in
November 2008 here by bert
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2130641/posts?page=20#20
Can anyone read the stamp on it ?
I’m just trying to make sense of it. This is the first time I have seen this. I’m a little blown away. I don’t mean to come off upset. I am just having a hard time absorbing this. I had talked myself into thinking there was nothing to this birther thing. I’m a little taken aback.
thank you notice it does not comply with their statute!
He was at the million muslim march.
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