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Health Care Problems People Aren't Talking About
Digital Journal ^ | 8/20/2009 | Johnny Simpson

Posted on 08/19/2009 9:12:02 PM PDT by TheMadKing

Though the focus today may be on the massive push of the ObamaCare bill by liberal Democrats and the noisy minority opposition, there are solutions to some major headaches in Health Care staring us in the face. Problem is, no one chooses to see them.

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KEYWORDS: bhoillegals; healthcare; illegal; malpractice; obamacare; tortreform
Items among those not being closely examined include systemic abusers, i.e. the Rozita Swintons of healthcare, millions of illegal aliens to whom HR 3200 would provide full coverage, and the medical malpractice lawsuit lotteries. You can read the rest at Digital Journal.
1 posted on 08/19/2009 9:12:02 PM PDT by TheMadKing
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To: TheMadKing

So health care is a right, huh? Well then why is it not also a responsibility? A lot of cost to the system is the result of people failing to comply with instructions, ignoring warning signs, etc.

I have already posted about people who get organ transplants and fail to take their anti-rejection medicine. I suppose these health-care-is-a-right loons believe they have an absolute right to another kidney.


2 posted on 08/19/2009 9:23:36 PM PDT by freespirited (The only thing growing faster than the deficit is Chris Matthews' man crush on Obama -- Tim Pawlenty)
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To: TheMadKing

if we’re going to insure millions of people then we will need a lot more doctors.


3 posted on 08/19/2009 9:34:41 PM PDT by ari-freedom (Obama acted stupidly...and that's after knowing all the facts.)
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To: ari-freedom

The Brits just import them from Allah-land. At the salaries and frustration level that would prevail under tyranny-care, that’s probably ALL you could get to do the job.


4 posted on 08/19/2009 9:39:43 PM PDT by Still Thinking (If ignorance is bliss, liberals must be ecstatic!)
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To: TheMadKing

You mean....the huge growth industry for morticians, mortuaries, casket makers, enbalmers and the fluids, and cemeteries/crematoria? Even the stone masons and mausoleum builders?

Just a thought.


5 posted on 08/19/2009 9:51:33 PM PDT by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Fili et Spiritus Sancti.)
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To: TheMadKing

I just tried to sign up to that site to log a comment.

As I got near the bottom of the sign up the screen kept pushing me to the top and would not allow, no way, no how for me to finish the registration.

Something is very wrong there.


6 posted on 08/19/2009 10:07:18 PM PDT by FedupwithGov (Our Rights come from God)
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To: ari-freedom

Guys, you misunderstand. I’m AGAINST health care for all as it is written in HR 3200. That bill is crazy! Government instructors coming into your house to tell you how to raise your kids? Ya, as if!

I say we fix what’s wrong instead of killing the patient to cure a headache. I am NOT for OBamaCare as written. No way, Jose! We on the same page now :)


7 posted on 08/19/2009 10:28:15 PM PDT by TheMadKing
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To: TheMadKing
Congressman Weiner says that health care is not a commodity. If health care is not a commodity then doctors and nurses are not free and sovereign citizens. If health care is a right then health care workers are slaves who must serve that right for the sick and injured. If health care is a basic human right, as Weiner says, then no health care worker can refuse to provide it, for any reason, because that would violate the patient's rights.

That means that the health care providers have no individual rights. The collective right of the people to get health care would supersede the provider's individual right to set their fees, their hours or change their occupational status or even decide how to apply their skills and knowledge. A collective right, by practical definition, is a state right because it supersedes the individual rights of others.

It may not be stated in any of the bills that patient's rights to care supersede a provider's right to set fees and hours etc, but it doesn't need to. Rights are always adjudicated in the courts. The legislation simply establishes the foundation for the courts to rule in favor of the patient's collective right to care.

Weiner’s view is collectivist, fascist and totalitarian. His view is the underlying philosophy of the entire Health Care Reform legislation the House and Senate have put forth. Consider the setting up of community watch dogs to monitor various health parameters of citizens in the Senate version of the bill. Look at pages 382 - 393.

TITLE I—QUALITY, AFFORDABLE HEALTH CARE FOR ALL AMERICANS

Even the citizens themselves will be subject to state set regulations on their behavior in order to fulfill the human right of universal health care. How much clearer can it be that these bills abrogate the concept of individual rights?

8 posted on 08/19/2009 10:36:04 PM PDT by TigersEye (0bama: "I can see Mecca from the WH portico." --- Google - Cloward-Piven Strategy)
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first rule of health care should be no treatment for recreational drug users....


9 posted on 08/19/2009 11:16:34 PM PDT by uncle fenders
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To: uncle fenders

Are you one of 0bammi’s Czars?


10 posted on 08/20/2009 1:00:52 AM PDT by TigersEye (0bama: "I can see Mecca from the WH portico." --- Google - Cloward-Piven Strategy)
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