Posted on 08/17/2009 3:08:24 PM PDT by Federalist Patriot
Here is video of New York Rep. Anthony Weiner on CNBC today talking about the Health Care Debate and the opposition Democrats are facing at Town Hall Meetings around the country.
Weiner says the opposition is coming mainly from older people who are scared and just don't understand the issues. He said President Obama "has not done a good job" of getting the case for ObamaCare across to people.
Weiner said that if Obama moves away from the public plan, he is not going to pass a bill. Weiner said if he tries to cut a deal to get Senate support by dropping the "Public Option," he will likely lose 100 votes in the House among Democrats. . . . . (Watch Video)
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I will give Bloomberg credit for one-thing: if he hadn't orchestrated that term-limits extension for himself, it was almost a guarantee that NYC's next mayor would be a Weiner.
(Our current mayor is a weiner with a lowercase "w")
Looks like Obama is stuck between a rock and a hard place. On the one hand, the majority of the population don’t want a Public Option, and on the other hand, the House Majority does want one. What should worry us is that they theoretically have the votes for it, but it comes down to reelectability if they pass it.
“Weiner says the opposition is coming mainly from older people who are scared and just don’t understand the issues”
No Wienie. The old people DO UNDERSTAND the issues. that’s why they are scared.
But....but...I thought all they wanted was universal coverage? (snicker)
Head fake folks:
THE PROWLER
According to some of the more progressive members of the administration, this (Govt.) board, which would set the policies for the co-op plan’s implementation and operation, along with the strict requirements for financial stability, might be a back-door way to “eventually,” as another administration put it, allow the federal government to take over the co-op and transition it to a plan more closely resembling the “public option.”
http://spectator.org/archives/2009/08/17/the-great-regrouping
“Obama loses Weiner support”
There is little difference between having a private entity act as a tax collector and calling it “insurance premiums” and a government collecting tax directly.
Heck, the Romans used private tax collectors.
It’s still a forced payment -— the government deciding how your money should be spent.
It’s an old idea, except the Romans knew not to subsidize failing parts of their economy by punishing the parts of the economy that work.
It’s the old people....That’s the bottom line...Get rid of the old people and problems solved...
The problem is that the U.S. Congress (Republican and Democrat) can no longer be trusted.
They enact trashy bills that don’t work. They break things that *do* work. They spend money like drunken sailors. They lie. They cheat. They steal.
Term limits is the only answer.
Omamma gets Weiner'd
EXACTLY, they take the older people as dumb and stupid. AND BECAUSE they understand WELL what ObamaCare is all about is why they are against it. STUPID journalist can´t get it right.
“And now some facts and figures on the makeup of the new Senate, from the Congressional Research Service. The average age is 63, and among new senators is 57.”
http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/01/06/let-the-111th-congress-begin/
...of both houses is 58+ years of age
http://www.c-span.org/pdf/111thCongress.pdf
Could've sworn the problem had to do with:
1) People understand what is in the bill and they don't like it.
2) What Obama says is in the bill and what is actually in the bill are very different.
Obama is creating a credibility issue, and if it wasn't for the cheerleaders in the news media covering up for him, he'd be a lame duck already because nobody would believe him.
Bush got painted as a liar even though he told the truth as he saw it all the time. He was really, really bad at dissembling.
Obama on the other hand is a smooth and practiced liar. He's a narcissist, so the lies are second nature. If it weren't for the inconvenience of the truth and facts (and reality), he'd be running at 90+% popularity right now.
I’m afraid the ultra leftists will end up voting for a watered down version knowing full well that all the tyranical measures will be reinstated before it’s signed.
Time to drop the bank audits provision too.
We must keep up the pressure and let all our RINO’s know we do not want ANY of their crap bills. The Co Op option is more like a co-opt coup to bamboozle us into their back door sneak-in to eventual single payer total Gov’t. controlled debacle of a HealthCare system. Sink that pirate ship in total!
I’ll bet Barney Frank could put Weiner In his place...
The petals are falling from the ‘flower.’
And if he passes a public option he'll lose 100 democrat votes in the house in November of 2010
The important thing to understand is that we are dealing with Leninists.
ANY increase of their influence over medical care, whether it is called “public option” or “co-ops” or “insurance reform” will inevitably lead to deterioration in our care, since for these people the Leninist maxim “the worse, the better” is primary.
EVERY single thing they have done since 1965 has been destructive. On purpose.
They have almost forced the surrender of the medical industry, and whether they get half a loaf this time or not, they will keep at it until the medical system is destroyed, or they are.
Ahh - the plot sickens.
“Term limits is the only answer”
Most of the founders would disagree.
Why would the founders disagree with term limits? Perhaps this nefarious crop of bloodsucking professional politicians was yet to be imagined by even the wisest among them.
Please feel free to answer my honest query.
weiner, stop being such a dick and oppose govt run health care!
When is the House of Representatives going to start to listen to America again? This resistance to the “public option” cuts across party lines, it cuts across ethnic lines, it couts pretty largely across economic differences.
How is at least part of this “public option” going to be funded? By cutting out ALL funding for Medicare, Medicaid, and most kinds of services now delivered to designated special classes like Indian Health Services, the VA, and various rural health initiatives. The difference will be made up by taking a BIG bite out of military spending, eliminating all future development of technology and weapons of active defense, like Star Wars anti-missile programs, it will be taken from cost-sharing initiatives for homeland security, and probably in a big way, it will be taken from things like FEMA as well, leaving the nation naked to any attack or natural disaster.
And we STILL won’t get crap for health services delivery, either.
Despite propaganda to the contrary, it IS possible to dismantle socialistic schemes even though they have been built with all kinds of deadfalls and tripwires. A major fractionation of this geographic area now called “America” into a “red country” and a number of balkanized “blue countries” might prove to be the least troublesome resolution in the long run. That “100 Democrat votes in the House” all come from those little islands of blue on the map.
I'm sure they wouldn't. In fact, if they ever could have envisioned this cesspool of corruption and villainy, they would have mandated them.
I am saying they would disagree with the poster's comment that "term limits is the only answer".
They knew well that there is another answer - first they put it in writing, then they did it.
In fact, they described that other way as "our duty" under certain circumstances, not as an option.
Listen carefully and you can hear the distant thunder.
Obama, welcome to the "Third Rail" of politics.
socialized medicine losses either way I guess
“I’m afraid the ultra leftists will end up voting for a watered down version knowing full well that all the tyranical measures will be reinstated before it’s signed.” The sad thing is ultra leftists have *shudder* ultra leftist constituents
I think that if one state does it more will follow.
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