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Abu Yahya al-Libi's Older Brother
JARRET BRACHMAN.net ^ | August 13, 2009 | Jarret Brachman

Posted on 08/13/2009 3:54:50 PM PDT by Cindy

Just so we’re all on the same page, Abu Yahya al-Libi has an older brother. His name is `Abd al-Wahhab Qayid (Abu Idris).

Remember, Abu Yahya al-Libi’s name is Hasan Qaid (transliterated differently in popular media).

What makes this story significant, is that Abu Idris is one of the imprisoned senior leaders of the Libyan Islamic Fighting Group (LIFG) who recently renounced armed violence.

And there’s the rub. The guy poised to take over al-Qaida has an older brother who is a senior member of the group that Abu Yahya used to be a member of who is now renouncing violence.

If the Libyans stay out of the way and just let Abu Idris speak his mind and go after his younger brother, this could rank on par with Sayyid Imam’s revisions.

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1 posted on 08/13/2009 3:54:51 PM PDT by Cindy
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ON THE INTERNET:

http://jarretbrachman.net/?cat=15
“Archive for the ‘Abu Yahya al-Libi’ Category”


2 posted on 08/13/2009 3:58:55 PM PDT by Cindy
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blog:

http://jarretbrachman.net/?p=934

“LIFG’s Ideological Revisions Imminent’

SNIPPET: “T-minus 24 hours until LIFG’s ideological revisions get published in serialized format. They will be published here: http://www.oealibya.com/ – As I understand, it’s 421 pages and divided into 9 Sections, but don’t quote me on that. Either way, it’s supposed to be a rigorously researched tex.

I’ll be commenting on them as they come out. Remember, Abu Yahya al-Libi’s older brother, Abu Idris, is among the LIFG senior leadership signing their names to these revisions. I really hope the Libyans let Abu Idris get after his younger brother.

The impending publication of this document means that a firestorm is about to follow.”


3 posted on 09/05/2009 5:32:58 PM PDT by Cindy
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ON THE INTERNET:

http://www.freerepublic.com/tag/lifg/index


4 posted on 09/05/2009 5:34:06 PM PDT by Cindy
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ON THE INTERNET:

www.muslm.net/vb/showthread.php?p=2309160


5 posted on 09/06/2009 7:34:31 PM PDT by Cindy
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http://jarretbrachman.net/?p=940

“LIFG’s Revisions: Part II Posted”

(Posted on Monday, September 7th, 2009 at 1:42 am)


6 posted on 09/06/2009 7:40:06 PM PDT by Cindy
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http://jarretbrachman.net/?p=940

“LIFG’s Revisions: Part II Posted”

(Posted on Monday, September 7th, 2009 at 1:42 am)


7 posted on 09/06/2009 7:41:14 PM PDT by Cindy
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ON THE INTERNET:

www.oealibya.com/front-page/local-news/6133-2009-09-06-23-38-25

www.hanein.info/

www.hanein.info/vb

www.hanein.info/vb/showthread.php?t=126885


8 posted on 09/06/2009 7:43:31 PM PDT by Cindy
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ON THE INTERNET:

http://jarretbrachman.net/?cat=27

www.oealibya.com/front-page/local-news/6199-2009-09-07-23-41-00

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http://jarretbrachman.net/?p=950

“LIFG Revisions: 8 September 2009”


9 posted on 09/08/2009 1:46:51 PM PDT by Cindy
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blog:

http://www.jihadica.com/libyan-jihad-revisions/

“Libyan Jihad Revisions”
Thomas Hegghammer

“September 8th, 2009 | Libyan Islamic Fighting Group, Retractions, propaganda”

SNIPPET: “The text in itself is probably not a landmark work of Islamic jurisprudence, but it is important because it adds to what may now be called a corpus of treatises by former militants challenging al-Qaida on theological grounds. The trend started with al-Gamaa al-Islamiya in Egypt, continued with Dr Fadl and now it’s the LIFG’s turn. Credible MB figures like Yusuf al-Qaradawi have also chipped in. Of course, no one text is going to change the world, but put together, these treatises will constrain al-Qaida’s recruitment pool somewhat. The Libyan text has yet to make a big splash on the forums, though it is talked about. It will be very interesting to see if and how the AQ leadership will respond to the latest salvo.”


10 posted on 09/09/2009 3:03:38 AM PDT by Cindy
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http://jarretbrachman.net/?p=990
“Updating the LIFG’s Revisions”
(September 10, 2009)


11 posted on 09/11/2009 1:37:24 AM PDT by Cindy
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Blog:

http://www.jihadica.com/a-first-look-at-the-lifg-revisions/

“A First Look at the LIFG Revisions”
Vahid Brown
September 14th, 2009 | Libyan Islamic Fighting Group, Retractions


12 posted on 09/14/2009 2:56:58 PM PDT by Cindy
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Blog:

http://jarretbrachman.net/?p=1036

“Why the LIFG’s Revisions are Falling on Our Deaf Ears”

SNIPPET: “Today’s blog is a plea to my readers who are in positions to influence counterterrorism policy with regard to al-Qaida. For once, the Libyans are doing something right and everyone else is standing around staring at their shoes. In short, this is the most significant development in the war on terror this year and, well, nobody knows – and if they know – they don’t seem to care. Not only does it matter that the senior leaders of an organization formerly in bed with al-Qaida are now renouncing al-Qaida, but the biggest story here is this:

ABU YAHYA AL-LIBI’S OLDER BROTHER, ABU IDRIS, IS AMONG THE SIGNATORIES ON THE LIFG’S REVISIONS. IN OTHER WORDS, THERE IS AN “OLDER BROTHER SCOLDS YOUNGER BROTHER” STORY HERE THAT IS BEING TOTALLY MISSED. THIS ISN’T INFO-OPS – IT’S REAL LIFE.

I’ll stop with the all-caps now, but I can’t believe that this story isn’t at the forefront of everybody’s mind. I explain why I think this is the case below. First, the build-up.

The Libyan Islamic Fighting Group (LIFG) has been publishing its revisions in serialized format in the Libyan press over the past two weeks. Few have cared. Camille Tawil saw it coming and blogged it. Muhammad Shafey wrote a great article on it. Thomas blogged it as the revisions got under way. Vahid followed up with the first substantive analysis of the first three chapters. I’ve been posting some links to the raw Arabic.

The LIFG’s change of heart is the outcome of a multi-year negotiation between the LIFG’s senior leadership, leading lights in public Islamism, and the Qaddafi government.

For those of you who don’t know, the LIFG has been a long-standing (at least since the early 1990s’) partner/associated group with al-Qaida. Many of its Libyan members had fought in Afghanistan during the 1980s side-by-side current members of al-Qaida. After the establishment of the LIFG, the organization remained an ideological and operational partner with al-Qaida. Some of the Libyans playing with al-Qaida whose names you might recognize include Abu Faraj al-Libi, Ibn al-Sheikh al-Libi, Abu Anas al-Libi, Abu Laith al-Libi and Abu Yahya al-Libi, among others.”


13 posted on 09/20/2009 11:13:25 PM PDT by Cindy
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Blog:

http://www.terraplexic.org/current-intelligence/2009/10/3/reconsidering-revisions.html
—Filed On: Oct 3, 2009 at 15:06

RECONSIDERING REVISIONS
Politics & Society | —Author: Marisa Urgo

SNIPPET: “I finally got around to reading Brown and Brachman’s insights into Libyan Islamic Fighting Group’s (LIFG) recent publication of “revisions” to their takfir-centered Salafist-Jihadism (SJ). For the few bloggers and analysts who have reported on LIFG’s revisions, it appears that they are substantial, and have the potential for challenging AQ’s own theology. (For more information on LIFG’s long history with AQ, check out Brachman’s post above) That said, I’m growing far less sanguine about the potential in this current revisionist movement.

If you’re new to this phenomenon, revisions are Salafist-Jihadists’ attempts to revise the most violent aspects of their movement.”

SNIPPET: “Revisions work to blunt the edge, but the edge remains, and all the movement needs is another “Blind Sheikh” or Abu Yahya al-Libi to sharpen it again. This time armed with the rhetoric needed to counter past revisionist arguments. The really big problem for the West comes in the possibility of that “Blind Sheikh” originating in a Western country, armed with a Western demeanor, reshaping SJ with western idioms. That possibility is seen in the radicalized communities in the UK, and is at work in the U.S. efforts of Samir Khan and his followers.

I’m not arguing against revisions. If a senior member of the movement realizes the error of his ways and (more or less) repents then far be from me to complain. After all, souls are at stake. But I think we have to approach it with more analytical caution. SJ is religious doctrine, not political ideology, and as long as there are believers, the movement (and the threat) will persist.”


14 posted on 10/06/2009 5:25:44 PM PDT by Cindy
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Note: Video included.

http://edition.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/africa/11/09/libya.jihadi.code/

“New jihad code threatens al Qaeda”
By Nic Robertson and Paul Cruickshank, CNN
November 10, 2009 — Updated 1529 GMT (2329 HKT)


15 posted on 11/11/2009 2:56:55 PM PST by Cindy
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I have been looking for information on how much of an influence the LIFG has on the present 'rebel' group in Libya today.

what is your take on this?

16 posted on 03/27/2011 11:08:56 AM PDT by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric cartman voice* 'I love you guys')
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I’m not an expert on LIFG, but I have posted threads or added on to threads regarding the LIFG.

Here’s the FR key word for you to look at the index of articles.

http://www.freerepublic.com/tag/lifg/index?tab=articles

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Here’s Jarret Brachman’s posts on the topic of LIFG:

http://jarretbrachman.net/?category_name=lifg

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On Twitter I have “tweeted” regarding the general subject of libya and jihadis as the articles/web forum discussions become available:

http://twitter.com/#!/truthusadotcom

One of the tweets I posted today included a link to this article:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/africaandindianocean/libya/8407047/Libyan-rebel-commander-admits-his-fighters-have-al-Qaeda-links.html

“Rebel commander admits his fighters have al-Qaeda links”

“Abdel-Hakim al-Hasidi, the Libyan rebel leader, has said jihadists who fought against allied troops in Iraq are on the front lines of the battle against Muammar Gaddafi’s regime.”

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The other day I tweeted about A-Libi:

http://worldanalysis.net/modules/news/article.php?storyid=1782

“al-Libi : As-Sahab to our brothers in Libya-Shaykh Abu Yahia al Libi
Posted by Casey Britton on 2011/3/15 16:02:49”

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I looked at this site before going to church today to see what the latest jihad propaganda is regarding various “revolutions” around the world:

http://jihadology.net/


17 posted on 03/27/2011 3:13:25 PM PDT by Cindy
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WoW lots to look at here.
do you speak Arabic? The last link looks very good but only the parts I could read ha
18 posted on 03/27/2011 3:27:07 PM PDT by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric cartman voice* 'I love you guys')
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I use Google language translator when in need of instant translation.


19 posted on 03/27/2011 3:38:04 PM PDT by Cindy
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“Rebel commander admits his fighters have al-Qaeda links” “Abdel-Hakim al-Hasidi, the Libyan rebel leader, has said jihadists who fought against allied troops in Iraq are on the front lines of the battle against Muammar Gaddafi’s regime.”

Abdel-Hakim al-Hasidi = Abdel Hakim al-Hasady

Ex-Mujahedeen Help Lead Libyan Rebels (Gitmo detainee) Saturday, April 02, 2011 6:45:38 PM · by newzjunkey · 4 replies The Wall Street Journal ^ | APRIL 2, 2011 | CHARLES LEVINSON DARNA, Libya—Two former Afghan Mujahedeen and a six-year detainee at Guantanamo Bay have stepped to the fore of this city's military campaign, training new recruits for the front and to protect the city from infiltrators loyal to Col. Moammar Gadhafi... Abdel Hakim al-Hasady, an influential Islamic preacher and high-school teacher who spent five years at a training camp in eastern Afghanistan, oversees the recruitment, training and deployment of about 300 rebel fighters from Darna... Sufyan Ben Qumu, a Libyan army veteran who worked for Osama bin Laden's holding company in Sudan and later for an al Qaeda-linked charity in Afghanistan,...

[My note: Qumu & Hasidi were allegedly part of the attack on our mission in Benghazi]

Libya: Former Guantánamo detainee is training rebels Monday, April 04, 2011 2:46:32 AM · by bruinbirdman · 12 replies The Telegraph ^ | 4/3/2011 | Nick Allen Former detainee at Guantánamo Bay has taken a leading role in the military opposition to Col Muammar Gaddafi, it has emerged, alongside at least one other former Afghan Mujahideen fighter. Rebel recruits in the eastern port city of Derna are being trained by Sufyan Bin Qumu, a Libyan who was arrested following the US-led invasion of Afghanistan in 2001, and held at Guantánamo for six years. Port city of Derna, Libya Abdel Hakim al-Hasidi, a senior Libyan rebel commander in Derna, was also held following the invasion of Afghanistan and handed over to Libyan custody two months later. Both men...

20 posted on 05/27/2013 2:16:24 PM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge)
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