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WHY Obama fails to be eligible in MULTIPLE WAYS..........
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Posted on 07/27/2009 11:38:14 AM PDT by Poparhoid

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Letter under "comments" is quite informative also to those just starting to look for the actual facts on this issue....not the Obots emotional hysterics.
1 posted on 07/27/2009 11:38:14 AM PDT by Poparhoid
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To: Poparhoid

Without a birth certificate he can’t even prove he’s old enough either.


2 posted on 07/27/2009 11:42:37 AM PDT by FrdmLvr
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To: Poparhoid

Here’s a list that was sent to me....

1. Offended the Queen of England (The President’s gift to the world’s oldest reigning monarch? An iPod).

2. Bowed to the King of Saudi Arabia .

3. Praised the Marxist Daniel Ortega.

4. Kissed Hugo Chavez on the cheek.

5. Endorsed the Socialist Evo Morales of Bolivia .

6. Announced we would meet with Iranians with no pre-conditions.

7. Gave away billions to AIG also without pre-conditions.

8. Expanded the bailouts.

9. Insulted everyone who has ever loved a Special Olympian.

10. Doubled our national debt.
(10.a. Actually, tripled our national debt.)

11. Announced a termination of the space defense system the day after the North Koreans launched an ICBM.

12. Despite the urgings of his own CIA director and the prior four CIA directors, released information on intelligence gathering.

13. Accepted without public comment the fact that five of his cabinet members cheated on their taxes and two others withdrew after they couldn’t take the heat.

14. Appointed a Homeland Security Chief who quickly identified as “dangers to the nation”, groups including veterans of the military, and opponents to abortion on demand, and who ordered that the word “terrorism” no longer be used but instead referred to such acts as “man-made disasters”.

15. Circled the globe so he could openly apologize for America ‘s greatness.

16. Told the Mexican President that the violence in their country was because of us.

17. Politicized the census by moving it into the White House from its Department of Commerce origins.

18. Appointed as Attorney General the man who orchestrated the forced removal and expulsion from America to Cuba of a nine-year old whose mother died trying to bring him a life of freedom in the United States.

19. Saluted as heroes three Navy SEALS who took down three terrorists who threatened one American life and the next day announced members of the Bush administration will likely stand trial for “torturing” a terrorist who had played a part in killing 3000 Americans by pouring water up his nose.

20. Air Force One over New York City .

21. Sent his National Defense Advisor to Europe to assure Europe that the US will no longer treat Israel in a special manner and they might be on their own with the Muslims.

22. Began the process of nationalizing the auto Industry and the insurance industry. Fired the CEO of what once was the world’s largest company (GM).

23. Nationalized the mortgage business.

24. Announced that for all intents and purposes the Health Insurance Industry will be nationalized.

25. Fired an Inspector General without notice because the IG had challenged (federally-funded) expenditures made by a former NBA player, now mayor of Sacramento, through a charity the player operated. The IG was fired summarily despite the fact that Senator Obama had co-sponsored a bill requiring 30 days notice for such terminations together with a full explanation to Congress (which had not been made.)

26. Threw out 210 years of law and precedent by placing unsecured union claims ahead of those of secured creditors in bankruptcy court.

27. Contrary to campaign promises, President Obama urged the largest tax increase in American history by advocating Cap-and-Trade carbon emissions laws. This tax will hit lower-income people hardest, as it will amount to a tax passed on by corporations to consumers on every carbon energy sources, diesel, fuel oil, coal, natural gas, aviation fuel—in short, everything used to provide energy to our nation and its economy today. But using nuclear energy is out of the question.

28. Changed the overnight classification of demand deposits using daily transfers to different money vehicles so as to disguise the enormous and rapid increase in the U.S. money supply—it has doubled in 90 days. The sham transactions result in an “apparent” reduction of actual M1 by 70%.

29. Gave his first press interview as America’s 44th president to a foreign news organization—Al Jazeera.

30. Honduras...need we say more?


3 posted on 07/27/2009 11:43:17 AM PDT by BCW (http://babylonscovertwar.com)
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4 posted on 07/27/2009 11:44:20 AM PDT by Diogenesis ("Those who go below the surface do so at their peril" - Oscar Wilde)
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To: BCW
"Security Breach May Lead To Obama Natural Born Status
A series of 2008 security breaches at the US State Department may indicate that someone knows Barack Obama’s true status as a natural born citizen - and is waiting for the right time to reveal it. The breaches, which occurred on January 9, February 21 and March 14 of 2008, were done by two “low level” contractors and another in a mid-level position with no management role.
... An investigation of the incidents revealed that all three major presidential candidates - Barack Obama, Hillary Clinton, and John McCain - had their passport files compromised.
... News of the security breaches prompted a statement from then-Senator Joseph Biden, who had not yet been chosen as Obama’s running mate. Biden, who was chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, had oversight of the Foreign Service and the passport office.

“I am deeply troubled that State Department contract employees sought access to Sen. Barack Obama’s passport files,” the statement from Biden read. “Firing or disciplining those responsible is an important first step. But we need to understand why these employees had access to this information in the first place, why they sought the information, and why it took over two months for this matter to come to light. I urge the Secretary of State to promptly refer this matter to the State Department Inspector General for investigation.”
... On April 5, 2008, Deputy Assistant Secretary for Passport Services Ann Barrett resigned from her post after a credit card scheme using US passport date was uncovered by the security probe. State Department Spokesman Tom Casey told The Washington Times that 24-year-old Lieutenant Quarles Harris Jr. told federal authorities he obtained “passport information from a co-conspirator who works for the U.S. Department of State.”

From The Washington Times report:
The investigation began after Metropolitan Police on March 25 pulled over Mr. Harris in Southeast on suspicion that the windows of his vehicle were tinted too darkly.
After searching Mr. Harris and his vehicle, police found marijuana and 21 credit cards that were not issued in his name or the name of a female passenger with him. Police also found eight printouts of State Department passport applications, and four of the names on the applications matched four of the credit cards.
Upon questioning by agents from the U.S. Secret Service, U.S. Postal Service and State Department, Mr. Harris “admitted he obtained the passport information” from a State Department employee, court documents say.

Mr. Harris also said the fraud ring submitted credit-card applications using the names and “identifying information” of the persons listed on the passport applications, and that a postal service employee then would intercept the cards before they were delivered to the appropriate residences.
Then, on April 17, 2008, Lt. Harris was found fatally shot dead slumped over the steering wheel of his car in front of the Judah House Praise Baptist Church in Northeast DC."


Key Witness in Presidential Passport Tampering Case Murdered in 2008, No Arrests
On April 8, 2008, Obama confessed to having taken a trip to Pakistan in 1981. Here is what Obama said - Jake Tapper was there:
"So when I speak about having lived in Indonesia for four years, having family that is impoverished in small villages in Africa --knowing the leaders is not important -- what I know is the people...I traveled to Pakistan when I was in college -- I knew what Sunni and Shia was [sic] before I joined the Senate Foreign Relations Committee."
... Much speculation has been made about what national passport Obama used when he traveled to Pakistan in 1981.
So Obama confessed to this trip two weeks after his passport was tampered with.


.... A key witness in a federal probe into passport information stolen from the State Department was fatally shot in front of a District church, the Metropolitan Police Department said yesterday. Lt. Quarles Harris Jr., 24, who had been cooperating with a federal investigators, was found late Thursday night slumped dead inside a car, in front of the Judah House Praise Baptist Church in Northeast, said Cmdr. Michael Anzallo, head of the department's Criminal Investigations Division.
Cmdr. Anzallo said a police officer was patrolling the neighborhood when gunshots were heard, then Lt. Harris was found dead inside the vehicle, which investigators would describe only as a blue car."


"Mysterious Dead Person Connected To 2008 Elections
The Washington Times reported April 5 that contractors for the State Department had improperly accessed passport information
for presidential candidates Sens. Hillary Rodham Clinton, Barack Obama and John McCain, which resulted in a series of firings that reached into the agency's top ranks."



5 posted on 07/27/2009 11:46:03 AM PDT by Diogenesis ("Those who go below the surface do so at their peril" - Oscar Wilde)
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To: Diogenesis

Everything has been “sealed”. Obama in his first day as President, created and signed Executive Order 13489 over-turning amendments in the Freedom of Information Act.
COVER UP Obama is a like issue.


6 posted on 07/27/2009 11:46:20 AM PDT by Vaduz
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To: BCW

you would think that almost any of the stated facts would be grounds for removal from office....


7 posted on 07/27/2009 11:49:24 AM PDT by tatsinfla
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To: Poparhoid

This is all great material and I don’t dispute any of it. But we had the chance to discuss these things and expose BHO during the campaign. This is all a day late and a dollar short. BHO was elected by the popular vote and the Electoral College. His election was certified. He has huge Democrat majorities in Congress so this Congress will never hold hearings on his status or even consider impeaching him. BHO controls the military. As POTUS he is CINC. The federal courts don’t have the cojones to challenge BHO’s citizendhip status.

I would love to see this Marxist dictator deported back to Kenya or Indonesia. But how do you do it? Seems to me that BHO and the Dems are holding all the cards.

Better idea: Take back control of Congress next year when we have the chance. Then hold congressional hearings on the matter.


8 posted on 07/27/2009 11:52:22 AM PDT by Welcome2thejungle
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To: Diogenesis
...and Joe Biden, Chairman of Senate Foreign Relations Committte that oversees the Passport Office ends up being Obamah's Vice President.

Hummmmmm..... If I were conspiracy-minded, I'd think there was a connection here.

9 posted on 07/27/2009 11:57:50 AM PDT by TexasCajun
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To: Poparhoid
To be "natural-born", both parents must be "natural-born" citizens and with only US citizenships.

Please provide the Article and Section in the United States Constitution, or the Section of the Code of Federal Register, which defines "natural born" in this way.

10 posted on 07/27/2009 12:09:18 PM PDT by WayneS (Respect the 2nd Amendment; Repeal the 16th)
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To: Welcome2thejungle

Jesus, where have you been? What the hell do you think people have been trying to do since before the election? The fact is there is such rampant corruption that no one will hear this case on its merits! Senators, and Representatives won’t touch it with a 10 foot. Each day the pressure builds though. We cannot let these weasels get by 1 minute longer than has to be. WRITE people, DO something, ACT! The government really thinks they can get away with almost anything now. Even this simple concept of not meeting three requirements for president of the united states. The buck simply must stop here. If the people can demand and get this problem fixed, we can go on to other things like the illegality of the 14th amendment, etc. God damn it we have to ACT. Write both your senators and Representatives and let them have it. If you haven’t done your homework, send them this report written by an ex CIA employee:

http://www.westernjournalism.com/?page_id=2697

Let them know you know and then ask them if they won’t do anything, do you as a citizen have any rights to demand an investigation of your senator or representative. (I still haven’t gotten a letter back on this one, I have received canned letters and one senator, Kay Hagin, will simply not respond after numerous attempts. Jeesh, i guess some of them thought all they had to do was sit in a cushy office and collect campaign contributions for fucking with the collosal tax code.


11 posted on 07/27/2009 12:16:24 PM PDT by woops
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I AM doing something. I am trying to change control of Congress. The process of impeachment is the only constitutional method I am aware of to remove a sitting POTUS.


12 posted on 07/27/2009 12:21:21 PM PDT by Welcome2thejungle
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Hey everyone;

E-Mail CNN and thank Lou Dobbs for covering the Obama “non natural born citizen” issue. Ask them to continue covering it and require that Obama presents his original long form birth certificate to prove whether he is eligible to serve as President since he may not be a natural born citizen:

http://www.cnn.com/feedback/forms/form5.html

I found these addresses too:
Lou Dobbs, loudobbs@cnn.com CNN,
Lou Dobbs, lou.dobbs@turner.com CNN
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13 posted on 07/27/2009 12:22:11 PM PDT by real_patriotic_american
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To: Poparhoid
Whoo wee, boy boy are we cookin with gas now or what?

This is why the entire birth certificate issue is, as the author correctly points out, a red herring. It doesn't matter if the Usurper was bor in Hawaii or not - both parents must be citizens for Zero to be a natural born citizen and eligible for the office.

I predict a full blown constitutional crisis within the next year. This issue is not only NOT going away - it is gaining momentum hourly!

14 posted on 07/27/2009 12:25:43 PM PDT by atc23
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Fact 2: To be "natural-born", both parents must be "natural-born" citizens and with only US citizenships.

Can we source that?
Actually, this doesn't even make sense, to be natural born, you're parents had to be natural born, but then their parents would have to be natural born . . . .

My father was born in Dublin and came here when he was 2 and served in WWII. My mother's family has been here since New York was Dutch. And I eligible, being that I'm over 35?

15 posted on 07/27/2009 12:26:49 PM PDT by Tanniker Smith (Obi-Wan Palin: Strike her down and she shall become more powerful than you could possibly imagine.)
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Here is Gov (commerce secretary elect)Bill Richardson saying in Spanish that Obama is an "immigrant." (So he understands understands "immigrant" issues.)The context suggests that by "immigrant" bill richardson means "illegal immigrant"



Here in plain English is the Kenyan Ambassador saying that Obama is born in Kenya.



Obama's own flacks deny that obama was born in Kenya but do acknowledge that he had a dual citizenship up until 1982

from obama's own site factcheck.org(this is cached as the original was taken down) by way of fightthesmears on his dual citizenship at birth

“When Barack Obama Jr. was born on Aug. 4,1961, in Honolulu, Kenya was a British colony, still part of the United Kingdom’s dwindling empire. As a Kenyan native, Barack Obama Sr. was a British subject whose citizenship status was governed by The British Nationality Act of 1948. That same act governed the status of Obama Sr.‘s children.

Since Sen. Obama has neither renounced his U.S. citizenship nor sworn an oath of allegiance to Kenya, his Kenyan citizenship automatically expired on Aug. 4,1982.”(Someone will want to cache the above web page because it will be taken down eventually. Ah here is the cached version.) Here is a better cached versionHere's a third Kindly cache these too.

Here is the problem with fighthesmears narrative: We already have recorded that Obama's wife michellle said Obama's mother was "very young and very single" when obama was born. British law at the time of obama's birth only gave citizenship from the father to the son in the case that the father is married to the mother:ie the son is legitimate. See wikipedia 2.4.3Since obama's parents were NOT married -- how did obama get his British/Kenyancitizenship? Its not unreasonable to think that he got his British/Kenyan because he was born there--and not because of his parentage. As to the famous newsclipping in Hawaii that states that bama was born there in 1961--there is evidence to suggest that the house named as the place where Obama was born -- was lived in by someone else besides his parents. Once again, Just one piece of evidence could easily be dismissed. It is the accumulation of evidence that is troubling.
It is well established that Obama did travel to Indonesia and Pakistan in 1981. In a tape of his speech at this April 6, 2008 San Francisco Fundraiser, Obama discloses his trip to Pakistan (40:17) when he was in college. On what passport did he travel?

A last arguement for baraks people might be that of course the Kenyans would have an interest in claiming that obama was a "son of the soil" both as a matter of pride and as a matter of bucks coming their way. However, if Obama was not born in Kenya -- then why wouldn't Obama release his original long form birth certificate. Instead of just releasing his long form birth certificate he has paid his lawyers 1 million dollars from campaign contributions since Sept 08 to squash the suits brought on the issue. On top of that according to the LA Times since the election -- the Kenyans feel that Obama has gone out of his way to snub/ignore/distance-himself them. The Kenyans are putting up reasons like perhaps they are insufficiently perfected for him to notice them--but here in the USA we have seen Obama throw a number of embarrasing people from his past under the bus. Obama is going to Africa. Will he visit Kenya? Nope. Exactly What IS a Natural Born Citizen?

The thing has become a joke in washington. Joe Biden Joked at the Gridiron Dinner in March 09.

After mentioning one of the Republican speakers for the evening, Arnold Schwarzenegger, was born in Austria and that one of the Democratic speakers, Michigan Gov. Jennifer Granholm, was born in Canada, Biden chortled: "Folks, this is going to be Lou Dobbs' worst nightmare. "

From there, Biden transitioned to the birth certificate controversy.

Les Kinsolving asked the Presidential Press Secretary Gibbs to release the long form birth certificate. The press secretary suggested mockingly that the copy of the short form birth certificate supplied online is Obama's long form birth certificate. Not so.(However, as of july 2009--eight months after the election-- Hawaii changed their rules so as to make the short form legal.There is even evidence to suggest the online "certification of live birth"--ie not a birth certificate--obama presented... was a forgery. See the press conference out take here.

The White House 'dialogue' site has to be scrubbed regularly because of long form birth certificate eligibility posts.

Rush Limbaugh joked several times on his radio show on 6/10/09: "What do God and Obama have in commen? (Answer) Neither have birth certificates."

Even the liberal LA Times on June 30, 2009 in an article dripping with contempt--conceded that the thing Obama's people posted online was "technically... not a birth certificate".

A bill in the US congress with 10 backers currently -- calls for future presidential candidates to be required to show a birth certificate.

The library of congress has recently started including the Obama File in its historic collections of Internet materials related to the Presidential Transition during a Time of Crises. The Obama File holds that Obama's birth certificate as presented online is bogus.

Now this story is starting to change. Some liberals in an open acknowledgement of Obama's problems are starting to call for a change in the constitution.Liberal defenders of Obama in full retreat on Birth CertificateNow The LA Times Wants To Amend the Constitution Rather Than Have Obama Show His Birth Certificate. (Translation: Yeah he’s not a Natural Born Citizen — As the Constitution Requires.)
16 posted on 07/27/2009 12:27:44 PM PDT by ckilmer (Phi)
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To: WayneS; Poparhoid
Please provide the Article and Section in the United States Constitution, or the Section of the Code of Federal Register, which defines "natural born" in this way.

You are correct. If Obama was actually born in Hawaii, he is a natural born citizen, assuming he has not voluntarily revoked that citizenship as an adult. Any assertion to the contrary is ridiculous.

17 posted on 07/27/2009 12:30:23 PM PDT by rmh47 (Go Kats! - Got Seven? [NRA Life Member])
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To: Welcome2thejungle
"The process of impeachment is the only constitutional method I am aware of to remove a sitting POTUS"

If you steal a car and six months later the cops catch you, just because you've had the car for six months doesn't mean it's yours now. Possession is nine points of the law, not 10. You think the Lewinsky scandal spun some heads . . wait til this thing gets going. Must see TV.

18 posted on 07/27/2009 12:34:13 PM PDT by atc23
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To: atc23

Yeah but the problem is the Congress and the federal courts don’t want to touch this issue with a ten foot pole.

If by chance we could defeat the Democrats in next year’s midterm elections, we could at least get a congressional hearing on this subject.

Do you think Nazi Pelosi would ever allow congressional hearings on BHO’s citizenship status? Do you think the SCOTUS will ever take it up?

And when are our leading conservative talk radio hosts going to even mention it on their programs?


19 posted on 07/27/2009 12:41:19 PM PDT by Welcome2thejungle
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To: Tanniker Smith
My father was born in Dublin and came here when he was 2 and served in WWII. My mother's family has been here since New York was Dutch. And I eligible, being that I'm over 35?

I got a better one. I was born in the US. Both my parents were born in the US. All four of my grandparents were born in the US. But my great grandfather, on my mother's father's side, was born in Italy, immigrating here in 1913. He didn't become a citizen, renouncing his Italian citizenship, until 1943, well after my grandfather was born (and a year before another of his sons was killed fighting in Normandy).

Under Italian law, which is juris sanguinis-based, I am considered an Italian citizen, since my grandfather never renounced his Italian citizenship (he never knew he had it) and my mom never renounced her Italian citizenship (she never knew she had it).

Today, if I come up with a bunch of documentation, I can get an Italian passport. This does not mean I have to apply for Italian citizenship. In their eyes, I already am a citizen.

Now, am I a natural born US citizen?

If the answer is "No," suppose my great grandfather had been born in, say, Spain, which has no law allowing citizenship to the great grandchildren of emigrants. I presume then that the answer would have to be "Yes," that I am a natural born citizen. But then the problem is that the only difference is a difference of foreign law, and you're allowing foreign law to dictate who is and isn't a natural born citizen.

20 posted on 07/27/2009 12:43:47 PM PDT by Bubba Ho-Tep ("More weight!"--Giles Corey)
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