Posted on 07/14/2009 8:59:17 PM PDT by The Daily Separatist
The inherent vice of capitalism is the unequal sharing of blessings; the inherent virtue of socialism is the equal sharing of miseries. -Winston Churchill
So why, then, haven't we taken example from history and turned off the road from which we're headed? I must take exception to anyone claiming we live in a capitalistic economy. Capitalism implies that there is freedom of choice, industry and private ownership of both capital and assets. If a country run by corporations and corporate slaves alike is your definition of capitalism, I retract my previous statement. If you take solace in the fact that your money is controlled by faces you will never see, please discontinue reading.
Socialism has had a part in America and American industry ever since the mid 1850's, and the Socialist Party in the US saw outrageous growth during the early 1900's. The New Deal was it's first noticeable start with the advent of numerous social programs; The Social Security Act, The Economy Act, etc., are only a couple early examples. Since then, socialism has been a creeping ivy on the back steps of middle-America, it's wrath only felt when it begins peeking into your very own home, business and livelihood.
I'll end the social discourse and begin with the political; what happens with those of us who don't necessarily fall into either genre, or simply think that our country and government have lost it's way? For sake of labels, I'd consider myself an independent conservative with a few libertarian leanings. The Grand Ole Party is dead and old school liberalism has gone the way of the DoDo Bird. Where do we go from here? Is there any one out there who represents me?
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3rd parties just don’t work. We need to keep the pressure on the Republican party to go in the Conservative direction.
This country is screwed. ACORN might as well be counting the vote for whatever an election is worth.
This is what happens when the majority thinks they can all give themselves free money.
They will not surrender that fantasy any time soon or easily.
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It would take an unknown number of election cycles for a Third Party to have an affect. We don’t have that much time.
There should be a third party. We can call it the moderate party and all rinos should be members. Let’s make the Republican Party the conservative party. I mean, most of the base is conservative, why should we leave our party? It’s like yielding your house to some obnoxious house guest.
NO
Third Party ideas are for fools who do not want to win.
Perot elected Clinton in 1992.
There is aways a first time in anything.
How it all falls I don’t care. The People should be represented IMO.
Not in the forms of the third parties we have now, that’s for sure.
I’m on the fence. Well, leaning more to the independent side at the moment. I’ve been looking at the Whig party lately. They say they are middle of the road, but all the ones I’ve talked to seem more fiscally conservative, limited government and common sense people like Glenn Beck.
A sticking point for some would be the abortion issue. As far as I know they haven’t taken a stand on it, and I think they’d rather leave it as a back burner kind of thing.
They have plans to address most of the issues that are important to me in ways that I like. If they could manage to win over Reaganites, they just might have at least a snowball’s chance in the hot place.
No he didn't...Bush I defeated himself. He lied to the American people & didn't govern as a true conservative. Had he been more like Reagan & less like Ford, Ross Perot wouldn't have gotten as much support as he did.
We already have a “moderate party”...it’s called the GOP. If you want to return to TRUE conservative / American values, then the Constitution or American Independent Parties are out there.
If you're really a conservative, go peddle your separatist wares to the Democrats - break them up. If you're really a closet Leftist or just a moron, preach separatism to Conservatives.
No he didn't...Bush I defeated himself. He lied to the American people & didn't govern as a true conservative. Had he been more like Reagan & less like Ford, Ross Perot wouldn't have gotten as much support as he did.
You're both right. Bush hurt himself by 'reaching across the aisle' to raise taxes, and Perot grabbed a disproportionate share of Bush voters compared to Clowntoon voters.
Why would anyone waste their time and effort on a third party?
Exactly. I half think sometimes that these FReepers who come on here and babble on about how we need to all go third party are really Dem plants trying to split conservatives and hand elections to the other side.
I don’t really advocate the split of the party because that would only give more votes to liberals to help them stay in power forever. On the other hand, who out there even represents us? Are there even any true conservatives left?
Don’t let the “a few libertarian leanings” fool you; I’m still a conservative. Read the rest of the blog, then come back and tell me I’m a liberal.
I understand the apprehension considering how new I am, that’s fine; especially considering the choice of screenname and name of the site. I imagine that does raise a few eyebrows. I’ll prove you wrong, though.
Have a good day all, and thanks for your comments.
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