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Is A Third Party Truly Viable In America?
The Daily Separatist ^ | 7/14/09 | The Daily Separatist

Posted on 07/14/2009 8:59:17 PM PDT by The Daily Separatist

“The inherent vice of capitalism is the unequal sharing of blessings; the inherent virtue of socialism is the equal sharing of miseries.” -Winston Churchill

So why, then, haven't we taken example from history and turned off the road from which we're headed? I must take exception to anyone claiming we live in a capitalistic economy. Capitalism implies that there is freedom of choice, industry and private ownership of both capital and assets. If a country run by corporations and corporate slaves alike is your definition of capitalism, I retract my previous statement. If you take solace in the fact that your money is controlled by faces you will never see, please discontinue reading.

Socialism has had a part in America and American industry ever since the mid 1850's, and the Socialist Party in the US saw outrageous growth during the early 1900's. The New Deal was it's first noticeable start with the advent of numerous social programs; The Social Security Act, The Economy Act, etc., are only a couple early examples. Since then, socialism has been a creeping ivy on the back steps of middle-America, it's wrath only felt when it begins peeking into your very own home, business and livelihood.

I'll end the social discourse and begin with the political; what happens with those of us who don't necessarily fall into either genre, or simply think that our country and government have lost it's way? For sake of labels, I'd consider myself an independent conservative with a few libertarian leanings. The Grand Ole Party is dead and old school liberalism has gone the way of the DoDo Bird. Where do we go from here? Is there any one out there who represents me?

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; Miscellaneous; Politics
KEYWORDS: conservative; independent; liberal; republican; thirdparty

1 posted on 07/14/2009 8:59:18 PM PDT by The Daily Separatist
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To: The Daily Separatist

3rd parties just don’t work. We need to keep the pressure on the Republican party to go in the Conservative direction.


2 posted on 07/14/2009 9:00:32 PM PDT by Parley Baer
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To: The Daily Separatist
I haven't thought so. Palin makes me wonder.
3 posted on 07/14/2009 9:00:34 PM PDT by allmost
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To: The Daily Separatist

This country is screwed. ACORN might as well be counting the vote for whatever an election is worth.

This is what happens when the majority thinks they can all give themselves free money.

They will not surrender that fantasy any time soon or easily.

http://unitedcitizen.blogspot.com


4 posted on 07/14/2009 9:01:40 PM PDT by GeronL ( Patriotic Insurrectionist at http://tyrannysentinel.blogspot.com)
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To: The Daily Separatist

It would take an unknown number of election cycles for a Third Party to have an affect. We don’t have that much time.


5 posted on 07/14/2009 9:02:12 PM PDT by unkus
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To: allmost

There should be a third party. We can call it the moderate party and all rinos should be members. Let’s make the Republican Party the conservative party. I mean, most of the base is conservative, why should we leave our party? It’s like yielding your house to some obnoxious house guest.


6 posted on 07/14/2009 9:04:00 PM PDT by ABQHispConservative (A Blue Dog Democrat is an oxyMoron!)
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To: The Daily Separatist

NO

Third Party ideas are for fools who do not want to win.


7 posted on 07/14/2009 9:04:46 PM PDT by Kansas58
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To: Kansas58

Perot elected Clinton in 1992.


8 posted on 07/14/2009 9:06:02 PM PDT by unkus
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To: Kansas58
Only if a democrat starts it, then we should all support it in front of every democrat voter we know..........
9 posted on 07/14/2009 9:06:52 PM PDT by Lakeshark (Thank a member of the US armed forces for their sacrifice)
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To: Parley Baer

There is aways a first time in anything.


10 posted on 07/14/2009 9:07:51 PM PDT by odin2008 (Everything in the universe is subject to change.)
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To: ABQHispConservative

How it all falls I don’t care. The People should be represented IMO.


11 posted on 07/14/2009 9:08:18 PM PDT by allmost
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To: The Daily Separatist

Not in the forms of the third parties we have now, that’s for sure.


12 posted on 07/14/2009 9:09:57 PM PDT by mnehring
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To: The Daily Separatist

I’m on the fence. Well, leaning more to the independent side at the moment. I’ve been looking at the Whig party lately. They say they are middle of the road, but all the ones I’ve talked to seem more fiscally conservative, limited government and common sense people like Glenn Beck.

A sticking point for some would be the abortion issue. As far as I know they haven’t taken a stand on it, and I think they’d rather leave it as a back burner kind of thing.

They have plans to address most of the issues that are important to me in ways that I like. If they could manage to win over Reaganites, they just might have at least a snowball’s chance in the hot place.


13 posted on 07/14/2009 9:12:00 PM PDT by dajeeps
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To: The Daily Separatist
If the Republicrats would get out of the way & let the political "market" WORK, then I think 3rd Parties could have a chance to be viable...but the system is rigged to where 3rd's aren't able to even appear @ the Presidential debates, they are shut out by the MSM, & those who would like to support them are insulted by those in either side of the Republicratic divide.
14 posted on 07/14/2009 9:16:14 PM PDT by ChrisInAR (The Tenth Amendment is still the Supreme Law of the Land, folks -- start enforcing it for a CHANGE!)
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To: unkus
Perot elected Clinton in 1992.

No he didn't...Bush I defeated himself. He lied to the American people & didn't govern as a true conservative. Had he been more like Reagan & less like Ford, Ross Perot wouldn't have gotten as much support as he did.

15 posted on 07/14/2009 9:22:42 PM PDT by ChrisInAR (The Tenth Amendment is still the Supreme Law of the Land, folks -- start enforcing it for a CHANGE!)
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To: ABQHispConservative

We already have a “moderate party”...it’s called the GOP. If you want to return to TRUE conservative / American values, then the Constitution or American Independent Parties are out there.


16 posted on 07/14/2009 9:25:30 PM PDT by ChrisInAR (The Tenth Amendment is still the Supreme Law of the Land, folks -- start enforcing it for a CHANGE!)
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What often happens is that one of the two major parties will adopt a popular program or idea from a third party. I have supported the GOP ever since I could vote. I think I voted for Richard Nixon back then. I have grown weary of both parties. It seems that all I do is vote against the libs, and not really for my candidate. I'm at the point where I'm looking into joining a third party that supports secession. It seems that we only have the option of voting for socialism now or socialism later.
17 posted on 07/14/2009 9:34:53 PM PDT by Nosterrex
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To: The Daily Separatist
Is A Third Party Truly Viable In America?

If you're really a conservative, go peddle your separatist wares to the Democrats - break them up. If you're really a closet Leftist or just a moron, preach separatism to Conservatives.

18 posted on 07/14/2009 9:37:32 PM PDT by Post Toasties (Conservatives allow the guilty to be executed but Lefties insist that the innocent be executed.)
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To: ChrisInAR
Perot elected Clinton in 1992.

No he didn't...Bush I defeated himself. He lied to the American people & didn't govern as a true conservative. Had he been more like Reagan & less like Ford, Ross Perot wouldn't have gotten as much support as he did.

You're both right. Bush hurt himself by 'reaching across the aisle' to raise taxes, and Perot grabbed a disproportionate share of Bush voters compared to Clowntoon voters.

19 posted on 07/14/2009 9:45:17 PM PDT by Post Toasties (Conservatives allow the guilty to be executed but Lefties insist that the innocent be executed.)
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To: The Daily Separatist
America's Independent Party - A Reagan Peace through Strength party founded by FReepers only last year, and already the third-largest party in the country based on voter registrations
20 posted on 07/14/2009 9:50:12 PM PDT by EternalVigilance ("The fiat of the Almighty, "Let there be Light," has not yet spent its force." - Frederick Douglass)
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To: The Daily Separatist

Why would anyone waste their time and effort on a third party?


21 posted on 07/14/2009 9:58:11 PM PDT by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus (We bury Democrats face down so that when they scratch, they get closer to home.)
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To: Post Toasties
If you're really a conservative, go peddle your separatist wares to the Democrats - break them up. If you're really a closet Leftist or just a moron, preach separatism to Conservatives.

Exactly. I half think sometimes that these FReepers who come on here and babble on about how we need to all go third party are really Dem plants trying to split conservatives and hand elections to the other side.

22 posted on 07/14/2009 10:01:39 PM PDT by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus (We bury Democrats face down so that when they scratch, they get closer to home.)
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To: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus

I don’t really advocate the split of the party because that would only give more votes to liberals to help them stay in power forever. On the other hand, who out there even represents us? Are there even any true conservatives left?

Don’t let the “a few libertarian leanings” fool you; I’m still a conservative. Read the rest of the blog, then come back and tell me I’m a liberal.

I understand the apprehension considering how new I am, that’s fine; especially considering the choice of screenname and name of the site. I imagine that does raise a few eyebrows. I’ll prove you wrong, though.

Have a good day all, and thanks for your comments.


23 posted on 07/15/2009 6:53:41 AM PDT by The Daily Separatist
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