Posted on 06/27/2009 6:51:39 PM PDT by fiscon1
Did you hear the one about how the Federal Reserve controls the world? In fact, the Federal Reserve chairman is merely a puppet. They are always controlled by a super secret group of power players. No one, of course, knows exactly who they are because no one knows exactly who actually owns the Federal Reserve. In fact, the president is also merely a puppet. It is this super secret group of power players that ultimately puppeteer the world. It's all part of their goals to create a one world government and ultimately control that government. Furthermore, this is no new plan. This has been going on since the early nineteen hundreds. Way back then, John Rockefeller was quoted as saying that we are all moving toward a one world government and it was important that the right folks would control it. In fact, the North American Union is just such an avenue. Here's how libertarian Ron Paul characterizes it.
(Excerpt) Read more at theeprovocateur.blogspot.com ...
The word is "strawman".
huh
Add "Libertarian Derangement Syndrome" to the list.
If it's my first guess he's an idiot.
If it's my second guess he's a liar.
Either way he's no one who's opinion is of the slightest import at all other than as a demonstration of what not to do when attempting to criticize libertarianism.
really, so you’re saying that libertarians aren’t full of conspiracy theories. I guess then I must have met the wrong ones because all the ones I met, and there were plenty at the tea parties, were spinning all sorts of yarns.
If it walks like a duck and flies like a duck...it’s probably a black helicopter.
I’m confused. Do all of you think that libertarians don’t believe that the Fed is secretly controlled by a super secret group of power brokers, or do you think this isn’t a conspiracy theory?
Shhh...That is top secret Trilateral Commission project. Elvis said so.
Libertarians must be getting to close to the truth; so his widdle mind has to grasp it anyway it can.
That’s interesting, because I always thought Ron Paul was a Republican. Oh, wait, he is a Republican, not a Libertarian.
Even so, I’ll take him over the nanny state loving RINOs any day. If he would grow a pair in foreign policy, I’d vote for him.
Volpe is a vacuous nincompoop.
Libertarians believe in honesty, integrity, and accountability...they must be crazy.
Get with the program, you square Libertarians!
Furst, before he ran for prez as a Republican, he ran for prez as a libertarian. Second, in this case, libertarian is the philosophy not necessarily the party.
So, in other words, you all think that these aren’t merely conspiracy theories but the truth.
I don’t think that’s what the article said at all. The philosophy is fine, but making everything a conspiracy theory is a huge problem.
All you have to do is read L Ron Paul’s own words and what he supports.
Congress voted to condemn Ahmadinejad for his anti American speech at the UN and Columbia a few yrs. back.
L Ron Paul voted against condemning the Terrorist Ahmadinejad.
Congress Voted in support of the Iranians in the streets wating freedom, L Ron Paul voted against the Iranians and their freedom.
L Ron Paul 6 April Denounced American and others in reaction to North Korean Rocket Launch. L Ron Paul believes North Korea poses no threat.
L Ron Paul blames American interventionism in the Middle East for out problems with them and why the attacks of
Sept. 11. Paul called it blowback.
Paul said “they attack us because we’ve been over there”
In other world L Ron Paul thinks we deserved 9/11
These are the same comments of Noam Chomsky, Michael Moore, and the rest of the Left wing.
Paul voted No on Constitutional Amend banning same sex marriage Sept. 2004
Paul voted No on Constitutionally defining marriage asone man one woman July 2006
Opposes the death penality Jan 2007
Paul voted No on allowing school payer during the War on Terror Nov 2001.
The Libertarians and other third party loons are no beter and worse.
Wow. You catch on quick.
I guess then I must have met the wrong ones...
If your taste in tea parties is no better than your taste in writers that is not the least bit surprising.
wow, your “in other words” can encompass quite a bit. So I suppose I can call you a big government loving RINO about now? No, I’ll just think that perhaps we disagree on the value of libertarians and Libertarians to the movement. I think Reagan, Buckley and Goldwater would probably be on my side, but I digress. Oh, let’s digress a little more: Friedman, Hayek, Sowell, Posner,Epstein, etc... Yes, Paul ran as a Libertarian over 20 years ago. Not sure Paul really speaks for all.
At one of the Tea Parties I attended, the Paulites were handing out papers re their showing a 9/11 Truther film.
I guess that’s why a perfectly good philosophy has absolutely no mainstream support. Why is that if it isn’t the conspiracy theories spun by most that are true believers.
First of all, Reagan, Goldwater, and Buckley were conservatives not libertarians. They had a libertarian streak, but none wanted to legalize all drugs.
I like the libertarian philosophy, but I have found an awful lot who spin a lot of conspiracy theory.
Yea, all those guys like Reagan, Goldwater, and Buckley spewed infantile crap like this about Libertarians.
Well you go right ahead there 'conservative Republican'. See how far your party gets without attracting Libertarian voters.
God knows y'all are doing such a bang up job all on your litle lonesomes.
Enjoy your minority status, loser.
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See post #17 for some of RINO Paul’s statements etc.
McCain, Romney, Spectre, Craig, Rooty, Powell, Duke Cunningham, Bloomberg, Christie Todd Whitman etc., etc.
You made a very lazy argument
Because the truth is, both the dems and repubs really want big government. They either want their welfare, bail outs and stimulus or they want to have laws that regulate people’s behavior.
Again, Reagan, Goldwater, and Buckley were CONSERVATIVES not LIBERTARIANS. Often, the two intersect, but I do remember that Reagan took the war on drugs very seriously. A libertarian would have simply legalized all drugs. There is a difference.
I have no problem with the philosophy of libertarianism. Conspiracy theories are another story.
So you are merely criticizing extremists? In that case I agree, though Buckley was for drug legalization, and I agree with him on that. As for conspiracy theories, paleocons sure do have their share and more (the Joos continue to haunt Buchanan et al), so I guess we can define conservatism to the point where we get rid of all that. Paul is a bit of a crank, but no more than anyone who thinks that the government can provide less expensive health insurance.
That’s fine but what does that have to do with libertarians making far too many conspiracy theories.
Like all of the conspiracy theories that gun owners ascribe to? How about the padlum about BO’s birth certificate? (If it was fake then Hillary’s crew would have made it an issue long ago), the take over of the government by socialists, Obama is really gay or a whole bunch of other crap I hear coming from repubs.
No party is immune to their crackpots
“conservatives” and repubs have their share as well.
like many of a libertarian bent, he needs to grow a pair in foreign policy. You can’t have free trade without the modern equivalent of the British Navy. Aside from that reasonable minds may disagree on prayer in school, and I can’t figure out how the state ever got involved in marriage in the first place. There wasn’t a state official present at mine.
I don’t know of any mainstream conservative that ascribes to the birth certificate theory. I don’t think that republicans think that Obama will secretly have the socialists take over, instead, they think his policies are very close to socialism.
There’s a difference between that and saying that the Fed really runs the world.
You mean theories like Michael Moores or any of those other leftwing nutjobs? Why doesn't the author write about them? They're the ones with the power now, not the Libertarians.
Personally I'd rather live in a world run by Ron Paul than Michael Moore.
Why are you posting this crap on a pro-freedom website? Why are you trying to play up the divisions between Republicans and Libertarians? What kind of freaking Troll are you?
Republicans and Libertarians are pretty much natural allies right now, or at least they should be.
But no, you have to post this crap by some guy who doesn't know diddly squat about Libertarian philosophy trying to stir up trouble right America can least afford it.
What is this jerks agenda?
I don’t agree that the Fed runs the world but I do believe that there is a class of people making decisions in the finance industry that hold sway over the Fed. The Fed has been breaking the law for quite some time in favor of the select few. No one seems to care though.
Specter started out as a Democrat, just went back home for him.
Bloomberg has been a life long Democrat. Changed to Republican when he ran after Rudy due to his popularity
then changed to Independent.
Duke Cunningham, Air Ace in Viet nam, was Conservative
and got hooked up in the end with the wrong money guy.
Powell did not have a republican background and was apolitical.
At least MccCain and Rudy know who the enemy is and don’t want to see America attacked again.
Romney and his 5 sons never served in the military.
Most Republicans didn’t take him serious as a candidate
and why he is a never was.
He now lives around 10 miles from me here in San Diego
You are lazy in obtaining facts. You don’t make your argument
Because this piece was about libertarians not about liberals. What I still don’t get is what about the piece is wrong? Are you saying that libertarians don’t spew a lot of conspiracy theories, or do you agree with the theories.
there’s nothing wrong with the libertarian philosophy but conspiracy theories marginalize people.
Except for the folks who voted for Reagan.
the folks that voted for Reagan were conservative first and foremost not libertarians. A libertarian would want all drugs legalized and Reagan never went for that.
It’s pretty easy to hatch a conspiracy theory when you’re surrounded by unending, ever-worsening corruption.
Interesting how facts in #17 with the Michael Moore Left Wing views of Paul are just put aside. Much more could be added.
The Paulites answer is well so in so is a whatever.
I don’t think it’s a conspiracy theory to say that those that run the fed know a lot more powerful people than average people. It’s a little different when you start saying that the fed is secretly run by power brokers behind the scenes and the fed chairman is really just a mouthpiece.
Reagan was a Conservative Republican period.
I worked for him when he first ran for Gov.
Saw and heard him many times in person as Gov. and Pres.
and met him.
That would be an accurate statement. Lots of people with widely divergent political views "spew", to use your word, conspiracy theories. Like the liberals repeating over and over again how "Bush stole the election in Florida", or conservatives claiming that "ACORN stole the election and engaged in wholesale voter fraud" (seen any hard evidence??), and tinfoil hat types of all stripes claiming conspiracies and/or coverups behind the 9/11 attacks, the Oklahoma City bombing, oil prices, TARP funding, President Clinton's affairs -- oops, that one was true -- etc. ad nauseum.
Why is it that everyone gets fixated on one minor aspect of the libertarian philosophy and assumes agreement or disagreement with that one issue defines the entire philosophy?
Truth there. Any true libertarian is disgusted with the Repukes here lately. And not because of any silly conspiracy crap.
He made the EXACT same argument you did.
I don’t think that’s minor. Did Reagan also want to get rid of the Dept. of Education? How about the FDA? Did he want to abolish the Fed? There’s plenty in the libertarian philosophy that Reagan disagreed with and that’s because he was a CONSERVATIVE not a LIBERTARIAN.
mainstream liberals and conservatives, do NOT make conspiracy theories the center piece of their platform. To say that Bush stole the election is not the same as claiming that the Fed secretly runs the world, and it’s not even run by the chairman.
The premise. Therefore everything that follows is wrong.
there’s nothing wrong with the libertarian philosophy
No sh**, Sherlock.
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