Yep.
Amazing << Hear this. Feel this, and tell me that this isn't music.
Oh, dear...
Posted on 05/31/2009 7:12:33 PM PDT by xzins
President Obama, friend of former Weather Underground murderers, William Ayers and Bernadette Dohrn, finds it fashionable to condemn the killings of one violent anti-government type, but finds soirees with Ayers and Dorhn perfectly acceptable. Ayers anti-government group, the Weathermen, killed Walter Schroeder, Peter Paige, Edward O'Grady, and Waverly Brown.
Scott Roeder, the name now being linked to the murder of baby killer, Dr. George Tiller, is a violent, exconvict who had served time on an explosives charge, and who had had a parole violation on that same charge. http://www.cjonline.com/stories/071097/parole.html
Other information on Roeder includes his association with the Freeman, an anti-government group kept under watch by authorities.
Acting on his anti-government beliefs has apparently led Roeder to take the life of Dr. George Tiller, a gruesome abortionist sometimes featured on the O'Reilly Factor and other news programs. Tiller's specialty was birthing murder, or late term abortion.
Tiller's murder, however, is objectionable to our president. Meanwhile, Obama's friends, Ayers and Dohrn, with known connections to police killings and efforts to overthrow our government, get a pass.
Obama must think that one man's murderer is another man's revolutionary. But, not the other way around???
Tiller is dead? When did this happen?
Ping
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It was a very very late term abortion.
What a HYPOCRITE! Why would a LOSER like Tiller EVER go to CHURCH??
Because it was a very lenient church?
This sentence was begging for editing. They **are** murderers. They are not "former" murderers.
No problem (however, they are former weather underground.)
This makes me feel better.
Remember: the Weather Underground thinks violence against an unjust government is okay.
Ayres should be proud today. A rebel stood up for the little guy against the racist, sexist, homophobic government that endorses such awful acts.
Brilliant post. Thanks.
Well it's all in how you look at the players here. Ayers, et al, were simply making their voices heard against capitalist American hegemony. They were actually victims, not terrorists. And Tiller was a champion of women's rights, social justice, and affordable health care, gunned down by a right-wing gun nut.
Only half the patients who go into an abortion clinic come out alive.
Yes it was a late term procedure, done at 67 years and 9 months.
Let’s not forget that Ayers gave a shout to Sirhan Sirhan in his book. Referring to him as a political prisoner.
Evidently some killers are heroes to the demented.
Hang on for this bit of news, Tiller sometimes “assisted with communion” at his so-called church. Just read that in an official statement from the fake church’s fake pastor, posted on another thread. How sick is that, getting communion from a baby killer?
If you google in Reformation Lutheran Church you will find that it is anything but a liberal church.
It’s beyond my understanding how they came to welcome this man to their midst.
I can only assume it was due to very large donations.
Their mission statement is the antithesis of everything this evil man did in his life.
“It was a very very late term abortion.”
Funny! I have been out all day.....I had not heard. I am shocked. What is more shocking.....He went to church? What church would have him?
You know....I have to wonder...I am shocked he was going to church. Maybe, just maybe he was looking for forgiveness? Maybe his conscience was starting to bother him.....just a little? Maybe he was going to church looking for something........
After all who are we to judge. The house of God is for sinners not for saints. If we were all saints, we would not need church.
Somehow I have this feeling he wanted to be forgiven.
After he committed his first abortion. He went to meet his maker today.
I'm sure the media will forget to mention the similarities.
There are a lot of churches that make abortionists feel like heroes. They not only condone sin, they put some sins on a pedestal, such as homosexuality and abortion and claim that these sins are "Good".
Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter! (Isa 5:20)
Its been going on for a long time.
(He's been a member of that church for yrs & yrs)
The little guy against the government is exactly the argument of the Weather Underground, Bill Ayers, and it continues for them today.
They should be offering Roeder a place on their board of directors shortly. He's one of them.
It sounds as if Tiller was a long-time member of this church, so it was probably not a matter of conscience that took him there yesterday morning.
He went because his views were accepted in that church, OR because they didn’t know they had a murderer in their midst.
Who was the serial killer who was caught a few years back who was a Sunday School teacher at some church?
I won't even get into the fact that this "church" offerred a lay leadership position to a notorious abortinist. I prayed fervently for the BTK killer's congregation (also Lutheran), ignorant as they were of the devil in their midst. But I am so far finding it impossible to pray for this church. They knowingly yoked themselves to Satan.
Xzins, to answer your question, the BTK killer was a lay minister in his church. He had access to all the churches facilities and I believe he both stored some of his “equipment” on church property and used the church itself in the commission of one of the murders.
Thanks. The BTK killer, and it, too, was a serial murderer in the midst of a Lutheran congregation.
As you point out, that Lutheran congregation did not know they were hosting a serial murderer. I’m assuming that Tiller’s congregation was aware that he was a professional baby killer.
George Tiller was simply huge on the Wichita scene. I don’t think there is any possible way to give his church the benefit of a doubt. It would be like having O.J. Simpson in the congregation. They had to know who he was.
I imagine the Lutherans are in the same boat with the pro life community, not wanting the public to judge their assembly by the actions of a few sick people.
Tiller being killed at church by Roeder was a bit too dramatic for me. If, as we are being told, Roeder has been involved in activism for some time, then we should also realize that he would know that the impact of his actions would be front page news, and that that news would be damaging to the pro-life movement.
Therefore, I’m assuming that’s what Roeder intended to accomplish. He intended to hurt the pro-life movement.
I feel sorry for Christian Lutherans who might be associated with any weeds in their midst. As you point out, that is a common malady in all church.
Jboot says Tiller was too big a topic in Wichita for the church not to have known his background. I don’t live there, but I tend to agree with that.
At the same time, Tiller’s killer, in my view of things, had the background and experience to know that his act would tend to hurt the pro-life movement rather than help it.
It is fair to ask the question, “Why did Roeder want to hurt the pro-life movement?”
If so, it was selfish in the extreme, without a care for the pro-life movement, victims of future abortions, indeed many voters who stand against encroaching governance. Or to put it another way, it serves the interest of the political powers both in government and the media to pin this deed on their political adversaries.
Thank you for sharing your insights, dear brother in Christ!
I tend to agree with your thesis. Could it be possible that Roeder was angry with the movement for something? For publically eschewing violence, perhaps? For not supporting someone who had already killed for "the cause," like Eric Rudolph? Or not being "committed" enough (whatever that might mean in his criminal mind)?
Then again, could he be deranged and actually believe that by murdering Tiller he was "firing the first shot" in some "Turner Diaries"-esque pro-life civil war scenario? I guess we will find out at the trial.
Yep.
Amazing << Hear this. Feel this, and tell me that this isn't music.
Oh, dear...
East German Stasi Spy Killed Protester, Ohnesorg, in 1967 ...
A discovery has upended perceptions of a 1967 killing that sent West Germany down a progressive road.
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