Posted on 05/17/2009 4:42:27 PM PDT by Shout Bits
I believe in the free market. I believe WF should sell what they can, I believe Safe Way and other regular food stores should sell what they can. I believe people should shop where they want to shop and to he** with the “green” BS. In other words I believe in freedom to sell and/or shop at your pleasure.
No she quit drinking milk with the artifical hormones used to increase milk production. She still drank milk.
But that isn't happening so, even though you see a correlation between this girl's period and her consumption of milk, proving causation just isn't possible.
Start here: http://www.dirtdoctor.com. Oh, and I get my organic milk for $4.99 a gallon (sometimes $3.99 on sale!).
Don’t think they were interested in proving anything. They were interested in improving her health which occured when she stopped. The failure of a doctor or scientist to explain why stopping helped is irrevelent.
Sure there’s a middle ground to improve food safety. For a food conglomerate like cargill to claim natural foods are unsafe is the fox guarding the henhouse. They have an obvious agenda to control everyones food.
I’ve had enough of chickens grown in cages to small for them to stand up. They taste like cardboard.
It is much cheaper to ship vegetable seeds than vegetables. The very best organic vegetables are grown at home.
You are throwing the baby out with the bathwater. If you had two beautiful peaches in front of you, and you knew that one had been grown from a kernel that was sprayed with a certain heavy chemical and the other was not, all else being equal, which one would you eat?
Organic is not perfect. Organic, re fruits and veggies, means your product has had LESS toxic input that non-organic.
It’s not about taste or cost, it’s about LESS non-food and poison going into it.
Maybe you can afford to shop there (for fruits, veggies, and meat /fish — forget packaged foods, they are cr@p from anywhere!), if you think about paying more to grocery and less to doctors later.
And yeah, you had to avoid all the Obamanauts that work there, but it’s worth it!
Mainly the case. They also have the most annoying customers in the known universe.
Do you really believe that the organic offering will be totally free from pesticides? That's nonsense. Without the use of toxins or genetic modification, you wouldn't have peaches, organic or otherwise. People who believe that organic means free from pesticides, or any other chemicals, believe in fairy tales.
Organic, re fruits and veggies, means your product has had LESS toxic input that non-organic
More nonsense. Insect predation is associated with increased levels of toxins in plants and that's why it's important to treat against insects and use genetic modification to produce more disease resistant crops. Organic attempts to use fewer pesticides and therefore requires more disease-resistant crops. Protoplast fusion, cytoplasmic male sterility without restorer genes, radiated mentor pollen and mutation induction have been used by organic producers for a long time. It is practically impossible to find any produce, organic or otherwise, that is not the product of the above plant breeding techniques.
You fear trace amounts of chemicals that produce no harm to your body but readily accept the above methods? Organic advocates may mean well but they sure are mired in hypocrisy.
It’s not about taste or cost, it’s about LESS non-food and poison going into it.
LOL! If you want to avoid toxic chemicals the best way to do it is to skip any meal you had planned. Plants are chemical factories and produce a variety of secondary metabolites, some of which are toxins used to protect the plant. In addition, fungal or other infestation not only induces the production of more plant toxins but themselves produce potentially deadly toxins, which can occur in the field or at various stages of post harvest storage and distribution. Beyond that, the foods you eat every day contain trace chemicals that are known carcinogens and poisons. Potatoes have arsenic. Lima beans contain cyanide. Orange juice has limonene (paint thinner). Apples and breads contain acetaldehyde. Aflatoxin is found in nuts. Benzene is found in butter, roast beef and coffee. The list goes on and on.
If organic is about taste then that's a personal preference. But to say that organic offers superior nutritional value or less non-food and poison is absolute nonsense. Paying so much more for something that delivers little or nothing in return doesn't make much sense to me. The whole organic craze has benefited the small farmer who has chosen to specialize however, so I suppose that's a good thing. Otherwise, they'd never be able to compete with corporate agriculture.
But she's still consuming the evil hormones by drinking milk. Like I said about correlation and causation.
The failure of a doctor or scientist to explain why stopping helped is irrevelent.
It's relevant if you want to know why she was experiencing those problems. If millions of girls around the country are drinking non-organic milk and not experiencing what she did then it's pretty obvious that it isn't the milk. There's something else involved but the milk is being blamed as the cause cause when it isn't the cause of her problem.
Sure there’s a middle ground to improve food safety.
Huh? You either improve it or you don't. There's not a lot of gray area in there. You either irradiate or you don't. How do you find middle ground with irradiation?
For a food conglomerate like cargill to claim natural foods are unsafe is the fox guarding the henhouse
Considering Cargill is moving into the "natural foods" market I find your claim hard to believe. I guess it would also depend on how one defines the term "natural."
They have an obvious agenda to control everyones food.
Cargill is the largest privately held company in the country but they are a long way from controlling the food supply. The food industry is huge and highly fragmented. Suggesting that one company could control the food supply is laughable.
I’ve had enough of chickens grown in cages to small for them to stand up. They taste like cardboard.
Free range chickens are a lot like grass fed beef: lousy. If you want better chicken then you're going to have to pay for it. Relying on Tyson or store brands won't get you there. Try the butcher shop or look for the Purdue brand. The food business is like any other. For the most part you get what you pay for.
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