Obama Threatens Lawyer Over Birth Certificate

From Sea to Shining Sea ^ | 5/4/09 | Purple Mountains

[OneWingedShark]

>Do you think its possible...I mean the guys got no legitimate leg to stand on to pass any of these laws.

Actually, we would have to round up and try the Congress for collusion, conspiracy, dereliction of duty, and (of course) treason. The same for the USSC, as well as for any judges who ruled in favor of any congressman since Obama took the oath of office (as they could be aiding and abetting [these] traitors) such as the pukes who ruled that Murtha is immune from civil slander suits because of his position.

Also, at that point we would be wise to review the laws/regulations/USC and throw out ALL laws which are remotely contra-Constitutional.

IOW, it will be a lot of work.... but I would like to see truth, justice, and the American way prevail here.

[ElectronVolt]

Not being a bandwagon person, I would say that even with a birth certificate proving Obama is foreign-born, he certainly had an American mother, and that is all it takes. Well, there is a further step of declaring nationality at the age of majority, but I seriously doubt that would be an issue because one doesn't have to declare immediately, as I recall.

My further question is that to receive a passport, one has to present a birth certificate or similar authenticating document. The certificate is checked against county-registered documents. I remember my mom and dad having issues getting passports because their documents didn't get recorded at the times of birth. So what is he trying to hide? I don't know, and maybe there is an issue with the birth certificate that would be embarrassing. I just doubt that it will be sufficient to yank him from office.

What really bothers me is that these constant stories of intimidation never make it outside the blogs. The lapdog press has no interest in reporting. Obama is a Chicago thug, but on NBCCBSABCMSNBCCNN, we just see a smiling, happy guy who loves us. I have faith that this image will erode over time.

[Uncle Sham]

The case for DEMANDING that Barack Obama present his eligibility requirement qualifications is not a complicated case. The U.S. Constitution clearly provides that this is a burden of the “President elect” as can be seen in the excerpts from the Constitution itself. “Qualification” must occur before someone is allowed to serve as President or Vice President. The only qualifications listed within the Constitution that are not health related are these in Article two:

" No person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any Person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty-five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States."

In addition, he must take the following oath of office:

"I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the Office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my Ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States."

Now, here are the defining criteria DEMANDING that a “President elect” submit qualifications BEFORE being allowed to serve as President:

Exhibit A, The Twentieth Amendment, Section 3 reads as follows:

"3. If, at the time fixed for the beginning of the term of the President, the President elect shall have died, the Vice President elect shall become President. If a President shall not have been chosen before the time fixed for the beginning of his term, or if the President elect shall have failed to qualify, then the Vice President elect shall act as President until a President shall have qualified; and the Congress may by law provide for the case wherein neither a President elect nor a Vice President elect shall have qualified, declaring who shall then act as President, or the manner in which one who is to act shall be selected, and such person shall act accordingly until a President or Vice President shall have qualified."

Exhibit B, U. S. Code CITE: 3USC19 "TITLE 3--THE PRESIDENT CHAPTER 1--PRESIDENTIAL ELECTIONS AND VACANCIES

Sec. 19. Vacancy in offices of both President and Vice President; officers eligible to act

(a)(1) If, by reason of death, resignation, removal from office, inability, or failure to qualify, there is neither a President nor Vice President to discharge the powers and duties of the office of President, then the Speaker of the House of Representatives shall, upon his resignation as Speaker and as Representative in Congress, act as President."

Exhibit C: U. S. Constitution, Article Six Oath of Office for elected officials:

” The Senators and Representatives before mentioned, and the Members of the several State Legislatures, and all executive and judicial Officers, both of the United States and of the several States, shall be bound by Oath or Affirmation, to support this Constitution; but no religious Test shall ever be required as a Qualification to any Office or public Trust under the United States.”

Exhibit D: The Electoral Vote Counting Act of 1877:

The process currently provides that someone “challenge” eligibility during a short, specified time frame while the electoral college votes are opened and tabulated. This process runs counter to the language of the twentieth amendment which DEMANDS qualifications to be provided by the President elect or whomever is being considered for the office of President. The very fact that this act does not require that qualifications be presented by the President elect serves to undercut the provisions in the Constitution itself. No act that does not support the Constitution is constitutional. In order to change the requirements of the Twentieth amendment, one would need to pass another amendment. An “Act” doesn’t cut the mustard.

Based upon the above, I conclude that

1. We currently have a vacancy at President because no one has yet “qualified” as required in the Twentieth amendment. The terms "The President elect shall have failed to qualify" clearly places this burden upon the President elect and not on someone raising their hand in objection. If this “qualification” has in fact been made, we the people should have access to it and deserve to know to whom it was made and when.

2. Anyone serving in Congress (see “Congress” in bold in Exhibit A)can DEMAND that their oaths be met by receiving proper “qualifying” documentation from Mr. Obama. This charade at the time of counting the electoral college votes does not limit their ability to do so at any time they so choose. The FACT is that "The Senators and Representatives before mentioned, and the Members of the several State Legislatures, and all executive and judicial Officers, both of the United States and of the several States' all are duty bound by this oath to demand that qualifications are presented. They all have "standing" to do so by virtue of this oath in Article six of the U.S. Constitution. To deny anyone who has been administered this oath "standing" to defend the Constitution is to deny them the ability to keep from upholding their oath of office. Breaking your oath is braking the law. No judge can require you to break the law in your own effort to uphold the law. The Constitution is the law. All we need is ONE official from the above listing to press the case forward. One.

[GBA]

And your reaction is exactly why any American, especially those in the military, is entitled to an answer. obama needs to show his documents, birth certificate, school records, whatever it takes to answer the eligibility question.

[Uncle Sham]

"Not being a bandwagon person, I would say that even with a birth certificate proving Obama is foreign-born, he certainly had an American mother, and that is all it takes."

On what do you base this statement? It's so wrong, it's ACORN-like.

[Atom Smasher]

Okay! So, the FReepers who have the backgrounds that are needed ie poli sci people, attorneys, researcher, ex-congressional/senate staff, etc. Even ex judges for that matter. We see what we can pull together and we start publicizing it OUR OWN WAY!

We utilize all sources of media that we know aren’t liberal. What could it hurt. For the energy we use up sitting here pointing out these facts, we could be making a hell of a difference.

All that sounds good, doesn’t it...but I, like many others probably...don’t know where to start. And calling any of those roaches in office does no good. They are not listening!

So, if anyone can come up with a way...I am in!

[Atom Smasher]

Thanks GBA. For a moment there I wasn’t sure if I was being insulting to our troops by saying that. I feel our military always deserves the truth.

[Ex-expromissor]

"This is the first that I have heard that his Occidental College records state that he was a non-American. Unbelievable. I'm with you. WHAT DOES IT TAKE TO GET THIS INVESTIGATION MOVING????"

Guts... The so called "conservatives" in this country no longer have any. If they did, Congressional and Senate conservatives would demand a formal investigation to prove once and for all whether Obama is legit or not.

Not holding my breath...

[Atom Smasher]

Thanks for posting that. This is why I can not fathom how this idiot is getting away with all of this. He is stomping on the Constitution every time he turns around. Where is the recourse that any citizen can take other than waiting for another election. This is ridiculous!

[Uncle Sham]

"So, if anyone can come up with a way...I am in!"

I'm studying how to best press charges against all of my representatives at the state and federal level for NOT upholding their oath to "support the Constitution". You are not supporting it if you are ignoring any of it's provisions. The only way it can be supported is to ENFORCE it. All of it.

I suggest that "We the People" do this across the land to all of our elected officials covered by the oath of office from Article Six of the Constitution.

[abigailsmybaby]

I stopped at the Hall of Records in Kern County, CA to try to get a copy of my dil’s BC for her. I couldn’t get a copy, but if I had been a parent, a grandparent, her husband, or a sibling I could have.

[M Kehoe]

Let's see, the U.S. Army, DMV, C.I.A, passport office, etc. have seen my birth certificate. Oh, that's right, I forgot, 0bama is the anointed one, who graces us peons with his presents.

5.56mm

[Atom Smasher]

This is beautiful! I have been asking all over the place why our hands are tied as “We the People”. Please let me know just as soon as you find out how to proceed with pressing these charges, and I will start rounding up everyone I can to do it in my state.

I think maybe I will finally sleep tonight!

You’re awesome...

[Marysecretary]

I wonder if his real BC lists his real father and not the one who was married to his mother at the time. Hmmm...

[pelican001]

“We have his Occidental College records stating that he registered as a non-American”

Are you sure of this? Where can I find a copy of those records?

[dhm914]

more painful than 9/11. this obama is worse than 9/11, this is nuts, we need to stop this mad man. he is worse than al quida, at least they outright declared war on us, we could fight them, this SOB is destroying america in stealth mode, and no one with any power to do anything is doing anything about it. we are being betrayed by this so called president right before our eyes.

[pelican001]

“Why the total silence? I don’t get it . . . no Rush, Hannity, Levin, no conservative magazines, no Fox-News, no Beck, no Coulter, no NOBODY! “

I actually called into an obscure radio station and asked this question to Jerome Corsi. He said “Good question” but then proceeded to give me a bad answer. Something along the lines of this being similar to the way people opposed to the Nazis in the 1930’s didn’t critise Hitler because they were too interested in trying to appease him. He said this attempted appeasement of Obama “is not going to work.”

[Know et al]

Where is the recourse that any citizen can take other than waiting for another election. This is ridiculous!

The recourse is stated in the Constitution but unfortunately, that document seems to be passe to far too many of our representatives (I use that term representatives rather loosely).

[clashfan]

“to receive a passport, one has to present a birth certificate or similar authenticating document”

Not if you are a member of congress. A member of congress is given a ‘official’ (maroon cover) passport. One must present a birth certificate to get a ‘regular’ (blue cover) passport, but not to get an ‘official’ passport.

[Poison Pill]

I’ll bet $20 that the BC lists his race as white.

Or his religion as Muslim.