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Khalid Sheikh Mohammed Was Waterboarded FIVE times, NOT 183
FOXNews.com ^ | April 28, 2009 | Joseph Abrams

Posted on 04/29/2009 6:48:27 PM PDT by Seth_Stuck

Like the 90% myth regarding American guns seized from the Cartel, the MSM took the story about Khalid Sheikh Mohammed being "waterboarded 183 times" and ran with it - poisoning the American public with a falsehood before the facts could be realized. The MSM will stop at nothing to push their liberal agenda...

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TOPICS: Government; History; Military/Veterans; Politics
KEYWORDS: 183; khalidsheikh; times; waterboard

1 posted on 04/29/2009 6:48:27 PM PDT by Seth_Stuck
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To: Seth_Stuck

Too bad...


2 posted on 04/29/2009 6:49:35 PM PDT by Virginia Ridgerunner (Sarah Palin is a smart missile aimed at the heart of the left!)
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner

Not really.

This type of technique loses its efficacy if it’s used too often, especially on the same subject.


3 posted on 04/29/2009 6:51:50 PM PDT by MortMan (Power without responsibility-the prerogative of the harlot throughout the ages. - Rudyard Kipling)
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To: Seth_Stuck

Hunting season is approaching ...


4 posted on 04/29/2009 6:53:22 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: Seth_Stuck

The most that these prisoners were allowed to be underwater was 40 scconds.
Can you hold your breath that long?

My hubby and I just did a minute.

This guy was a wimp.


5 posted on 04/29/2009 6:53:58 PM PDT by netmilsmom (Psalm 109:8 - Let his days be few; and let another take his office)
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To: Seth_Stuck

This isn’t correct, I heard David Letterman say it was over 180 times.


6 posted on 04/29/2009 6:57:48 PM PDT by americanophile
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To: netmilsmom

Yeah but you did it in the comfort of your own home big difference


7 posted on 04/29/2009 6:58:07 PM PDT by al baby (Hi Mom)
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To: MortMan

Which is exactly why disclosing its use is so damaging. Some people CAN train to the point where waterboarding is bearable. That’s bearable, not pleasant. Just practice, practice, practice is a safe environment, and the brain learns that the illusion of drowning is just that, an illusion. And no, I’m not saying anything that anyone knowledgable about the subject doesn’t already know.


8 posted on 04/29/2009 6:59:25 PM PDT by piytar (Obama = Mugabe wannabe. Wake up America.)
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To: Seth_Stuck

If KSM actually endured it 183 times, that’s the best argument there is that it’s not torture


9 posted on 04/29/2009 7:00:19 PM PDT by muir_redwoods ( O.B.A.M.A. = One Big Asinine Mistake, America)
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To: Seth_Stuck

The media is a bunch of liars. Our President is a liar. His administration is a bunch of liars. Democrats are a bunch of liars.

I don’t know about you folks, but I’m hoping that I really am on a watch list, ‘cause I’m mad as hell.


10 posted on 04/29/2009 7:00:48 PM PDT by AnglePark
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To: Seth_Stuck

President Obama: Would you dunk KSM underwater for a few seconds to save one American life? 100? How about the approximately 3000 that were killed on 9/11/01? And if not, what moral precept is it that would trade a few seconds of discomfort to a mass murderer for 3000 innocent lives?


11 posted on 04/29/2009 7:02:21 PM PDT by jwalsh07
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To: al baby

>>Yeah but you did it in the comfort of your own home big difference<<

Well, actually, I’m not the potential killer of thousands of Americans.

For him, good on ya son! Pity they didn’t hold ya down there longer.


12 posted on 04/29/2009 7:03:06 PM PDT by netmilsmom (Psalm 109:8 - Let his days be few; and let another take his office)
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To: AnglePark
"The media is a bunch of liars. Our President is a liar. His administration is a bunch of liars. Democrats are a bunch of liars."

Quoted because it is true.

13 posted on 04/29/2009 7:03:30 PM PDT by Volunteer (Though I know that the hypnotized never lie, do ya? - The Who)
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To: Seth_Stuck

I drown all the rats I catch in my traps.....send Khalid Sheikh Mohammed to me....I’ll waterboard him......no problem....at least he won’t complain about torture anymore.....and he will still have his head, at that...


14 posted on 04/29/2009 7:04:20 PM PDT by nbhunt
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To: muir_redwoods

Amen!!!


15 posted on 04/29/2009 7:05:31 PM PDT by netmilsmom (Psalm 109:8 - Let his days be few; and let another take his office)
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To: All
DEFENSElink.mil (AMERICAN FORCES PRESS SERVICE): Washington - "PENTAGON TO RELEASE PHOTOS FROM DETAINEE CUSTODY INVESTIGATIONS" by Gerry J. Gilmore (April 24, 2009)

Link (pdf)

Link

DEFENSElink.mil (AMERICAN FORCES PRESS SERVICE): Washington - "SPOKESMAN CITES PENTAGON COOPERATION IN INTERROGATION PROBE" by Gerry J. Gilmore (April 22, 2009)



FOX NEWS.com: "DESPITE REPORTS, KHALID SHEIKH MOHAMMED WAS NOT WATERBOARDED 183 TIMES" (April 28, 2009)

US DOJ.gov/ag - "100 Days Progress Report" (April 29, 2009)

WEEKLY STANDARD.com: "PREENING & POSTURING Throwing those who guard us while we sleep to the wolves." by William Kristol (SNIPPET: "The dark and painful chapter we have to fear is rather the one President Obama may be ushering in. This would be a chapter in which politicians preen moralistically as they throw patriotic officials, who helped keep this country safe, to the wolves, and in which national leaders posture politically while endangering the nation's security. The preening is ridiculous, even by the standards of contemporary American politics and American liberalism. Obama fatuously asserts there are no real choices in the real world, just "false choices" that he can magically resolve. He foolishly suggests that even in war we would never have to do anything disagreeable for the sake of our security. He talks baby talk to intelligence officers: "Don't be discouraged that we have to acknowledge potentially we've made some mistakes. That’s how we learn."") (May 4, 2009 Issue)
WEEKLY STANDARD.com - blog: "GOSS: OBAMA DECISION "CROSSED A RED LINE"" -Posted by Stephen F. Hayes (SNIPPET: "Porter Goss, former CIA Director and past chairman of the House Intelligence Committee, blasted the Obama administration for releasing Justice Department memos on harsh interrogation techniques. "For the first time in my experience we've crossed the red line of properly protecting our national security in order to gain partisan political advantage," Goss said in an interview.") (April 23, 2009, 1:53 pm)
WASHINGTON TIMES.com: "BOEHNER: CIA METHODS NO SECRET ON HILL" by S.A. Miller (April 23, 2009)

stepping back in time...WASHINGTON POST.com: "HILL BRIEFED ON WATERBOARDING IN 2002 In Meetings, Spy Panels' Chiefs Did Not Protest, Officials Say" by Joby Warrick and Dan Eggen (December 9, 2007)

CNS NEWS.com: "CIA CONFIRMS: WATERBOARDING 9/11 MASTERMIND LED TO INFO THAT ABORTED 9/11-STYLE ATTACK ON LOS ANGELES" by Terence P. Jeffrey (April 21, 2009)

DIRECTOR BLUE - blog: "EXCLUSIVE TEXT: WHAT WATERBOARDING REVEALED" (April 21, 2009)

Transcripts.CNN.com: "STATE OF THE UNION WITH JOHN KING Interview with Janet Napolitano; Interview with Senators Klobuchar, Ensign" (Aired April 19, 2009, 09:00 ET)

FRONTPAGE MAGAZINE.com: "This is Torture?" by Jacob Laksin (SNIPPET: "Nevertheless, the administration erred in releasing the memos.") (April 21, 2009)

DNI.gov - DIRECTOR OF NATIONAL INTELLIGENCE: Washington, DC - "STATEMENT BY THE DIRECTOR OF NATIONAL INTELLIGENCE Mr. Dennis C. Blair (April 21, 2009)

CNN.com: Washington - "EX-CIA CHIEF: OBAMA RISKS NATIONAL SECURITY" (SNIPPET: "A former head of the CIA slammed President Obama on Sunday for releasing four Bush-era memos, saying the new president has compromised national security.") (Updated April 19, 2009, 7:44 p.m. EDT)
Online.WSJ.com: "THE PRESIDENT TIES HIS OWN HANDS ON TERROR The point of interrogation is intelligence, not confession." by Michael Hayden and Michael B. Mukasey (April 17, 2009)
CIA.gov: "MESSAGE FROM THE DIRECTOR: RELEASE OF DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE OPINIONS Statement to Employees by Director of the Central Intelligence Agency Leon E. Panetta on the Release of Department of Justice Opinions" (April 16, 2009)
US DOJ.gov/opa - Press Release: "DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE RELEASES FOUR OFFICE OF LEGAL COUNSEL OPINIONS" (April 16, 2009)

WHITEHOUSE.gov: "STATEMENT OF PRESIDENT BARACK OBAMA ON RELEASE OF OLC MEMOS" (April 16, 2009)

FOX NEWS.com: "EX-CIA CHIEF CRITICIZES RELEASE OF INTERROGATION MEMOS Former CIA Director Michael Hayden says release of the memos will give terrorists a precise guide for what to expect in a CIA interrogation if those methods are ever approved for use again" (April 16, 2009)
FOX NEWS.com: "OBAMA MAY RELEASE DETAILS OF CIA's INTERROGATION METHODS USED ON TERROR SUSPECTS" by Brit Hume (SNIPPET: "The president's decision will tell us much about him.") (April 15, 2009)

16 posted on 04/29/2009 7:18:52 PM PDT by Cindy
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To: AnglePark

“The media is a bunch of liars. Our President is a liar. His administration is a bunch of liars. Democrats are a bunch of liars.”

You’ve just captured all you need to know about the present state of American politics.


17 posted on 04/29/2009 7:23:42 PM PDT by popdonnelly (The greatest crimes in history have been perpetrated by governments. You've been warned.)
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To: Seth_Stuck
...yeah ,but it was those caterpillars wearing the little scuba tanks that drove them over the edge
18 posted on 04/29/2009 7:23:59 PM PDT by Doogle (USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated))
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To: Seth_Stuck

So in 5 times he gave up the attack on the GW Bridge. Sounds pretty effective. Obama is more concerned w/terrorists safety than Americans.

Pray for America


19 posted on 04/29/2009 7:26:35 PM PDT by bray (No Obozos)
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To: bray

Obama is concerned with appeasing the liberal traitors that make up the base of his party.


20 posted on 04/29/2009 8:04:41 PM PDT by RC one
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To: Seth_Stuck

The regime’s propagandists in the mainstream media (I’m including Schlep Smith in that crowd) know this but don’t care.


21 posted on 04/29/2009 8:15:44 PM PDT by TBP
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To: Seth_Stuck

It just means that Khalid is a slow learner!


22 posted on 04/29/2009 8:24:25 PM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (THE SECOND AMENDMENT, A MATTER OF FACT, NOT A MATTER OF OPINION)
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To: Seth_Stuck

If he was only waterboarded five times, then we’re still 2995 sessions short.


23 posted on 04/29/2009 8:39:06 PM PDT by ottbmare (Ein Reich, ein Volk, ein Obama! (If you're old enough, you'll understand the reference))
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