Posted on 04/25/2009 6:35:12 PM PDT by Kozman
I realize that writing this current post will put me out on the outer fringe of conspiracy theorists, but hear me out. There are enough oddities here that at an investigation of some sort should begin.
Here's my case. It is based on four facts.
1.During President Obama's recent trip to Mexico, Obama was received at Mexico’s anthropology museum in Mexico City by Felipe Solis, a distinguished archaeologist who died the following day from symptoms similar to flu... Given that it is possible that Obama could have been infected and that the virus appears to kill the healthy, then it is clearly possible that this could have been lethal to Obama if he caught it.
3. This flu is appearing at an odd time, suggesting the possibility of a synthetic virus and not a natural virus... Keep this in mind. The population of Mexico City, where Obama was greeted by Solis, has a population of roughly 8.8 million people. If we assume all the 1,000 reported cases of the flu in Mexico are in Mexico City, the odds of any specific person in Mexico City having the virus is .0125%. And this guy ends up greeting the President? It's investigation time...
(Excerpt) Read more at economicpolicyjournal.com ...
Mossad?
No one heard of this type of flu until Zero visited Mexico. He has cooties and has infected people.
24 Season 3?
No. The killer cold assassination is the stuff of bad movies and books. Out here in reality you just shoot them.
No conspircy here.....the anti-Christ is supposed to receive a head wound and recover.
Is this part, that you left out of # 1, true from a medical perspective?
“Clearly, if the man died the next day, he was highly contagious when Obama met him...”
Alternative theory: He slept with a Mexican sheep!
Has the 0bama puppy been to the vet yet?
Not an assasination attempt. More like US spreading the virus to Mexico, to give US cover to impose draconian policies
One could pray
I think the outer fringe are those folks behind you, calling you to come back.
Makes me glad I've got plenty of Anti-Baraktic on hand.
Filipe died the next day?? Sounds more like anthrax than the flu.
Get your Wellies on.
Glad I don’t eat mutton.
ROTFLMAO! good one.
Maybe more a plot to terrorize—
30,000 Americans die of the flue every year. It is now almost may and this strain has killed 81 Mexicans.
Can I sell you some stuff for Y2K? you might need it again in 3000.
Not so much here, but I've read more than one comment that some seem happy as it could mean a reduction in world population which I find distasteful and alarming.
I'm concerned about some of what I'm looking up now. In I believe it was about 1999, a scientist named Taubenberger got samples of the 1918 flu virus and partial genetic sequencing, but the RNA was damaged. So the first attempt failed, but another tissue sample was obtained from a victim buried in the Alaskan permafrost and led to the full discovery. The genome sequencing and method was posted on the internet!
The world took little notice at the time, but there were safety issues raised in the Guardian. I don't know if the current strain is exactly the duplicate or not, but it is not too far fetched to think that a variant could be bioengineered, not saying it was.
So while not wanting to feed into a conspiracy, I don't necesarily believe everything can be explained by coincidence. Regardless, I doubt we will ever know the full truth about it.
Ethics of reconstructing Spanish Flu: Is it wise to resurrect a deadly virus? (nature.com)
There are multiple other references out there, but it sounded like a bad idea at the time as I did hear something about it in the news.
Are the folks south of the border that organized to pull this off?
The only thing they seem to pull off with any sort of regularity is leaving Mexico to get here.
Where do you get this from?
The flu annually kills 30K very old and usually very sick people with otherwise compromised immune systems. When the very healthy start to succumb to the flue, it quickly gets the attention of people who work with communicable diseases for a living.
It’s difficult to reply to such a thread: I’m laughing too hard.
Yes, it does. It's the most compelling part of this article, in fact.
Or perhaps those who work with communicable diseases for a living (the key point you made, actually) have color televisions; have internet connections, and recently noticed the government spending TRILLIONS - and are applying for some “bailout” money?...
Just saying.
I am wondering if it was more of a test run to see how things spread, how far will it get and how fast etc. They will have a great source of info as the CDC will make public every case where it happened etc. It will be like having a real time test for a more deadly virus. The pieces fit; not a normal strain, more than one person thinking it looks manufacutured, highly contagious so spreading can be monitored, and if it came from Mexico, you are looking at the easiest and most likely entry point for any bio attack. This is just my opinion, and I am not a medical person by nature, but I am a thinker, and this does make sense to me.
It is interesting to see people laugh at this idea. Do those same people laugh at the idea that people are wondering if this is a bio-terrorism man made flu?
It isn’t that much of a stretch to then think that it could be used to try to kill off a Head of State.
However, I would be more inclined to think this was the case if it was Bush and not Obama.
Obama is their man. He will destroy the America we know. They need him.
But do protect your furry friends:
It is in the Bible.
Revelation 13: 3-4
NO. It is a terrorist attack on the USA. They don’t WANT to infect Obama - he is on their side.
Ni, actually I believe it to be the High Tech attempt by the Muslim terrorist who want to kill us all.
It had been reported, last year I think that quite a few people from Muslim dominated countries had entered Mexico, and (shocker) disappeared.
If they can’t cause terror one way (blowing up buildings, schools, ect) then they can cause terror. suspicion, and in this case massive amounts of death by releasing a lab created virus.
Not a nut, just someone who understands basic lab work.
Why assasinate BHO? He’s bending over backwards (and bowing over forwards) to please them.
I like the way you think.
I had the VERY same thought when I saw the headline on Drudge.
Geez, not this shi’ite again!
Because, and some here would do well to realize the difference, BO's just your standard issue crooked Chicago pol with unstandard gifts of charisma and incredible timing. They, the ones that would be thrilled to assassinate him are bat$&!* insane nuts that hate, hate, America and believe that anything done to strike at her is A Good Thing. (tm) They don't believe what Obama says, and more importantly, they don't care. America is bad and must be destroyed.
Not to say I think this flu thing is a bio attack, I don't, I just want to make the distinction that when it come down to Obama who is merely our idealogical opponent, and those POS's that wire suicide bombs, behead people on the internet, and rejoice when we lose 3,000 civilians in a day... those people would be thrilled to take out Obama, and on any given day I'm standing with our President against them no matter who he is.
People who were 20-30 years of age were disproportionately likely to die from the 1918 flu. My grandmother was 28. She caught it when it hit Washington in October. She was cared for at home, and nearly died, and no one else in the house caught it. She also got the second wave in the early Spring of 1919.
So, watch this flu—Is it killing young adults disproportionately?
Don’t forget: Woodrow Wilson kept shipping men over to France even though the generals told him the war was won and the Army doctors pleaded that the flu was killing the men like flies on the ships. Wilson wanted lots of troops in Europe so he could claim as much credit as possible for winning the war, and strenghthen his hand at Versailles. Fascist fiend.
Can someone DIE of the flu without being sick in bed THE DAY BEFORE???
In Mexico, most of the folks that have died are male, ages 23 - 44. Pandemic style.
I hope that they are very strict with biosafety:
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However, North Korea would easily be able to manufacture a nasty sequence.
Note: Influenza is a RNA virus that is much more difficult to handle and much longer.
From what I have read, including ProMed, the infected person is contagious for 3 days before symptoms appear to 7 days after they appear.
I also recall another anecdote about a man who died a day after his symptoms appeared. Don’t recall the details, but virulent flu can trigger other things, like a heart attack or the lungs can suddenly fill with fluid. It may depend on someone’s general health before being infected.
We all routinely ignore cold and flu symptoms because in the past, they have resolved without mortality.
For the record, I think this is simply a Black Swan and not necessarily an engineered virus. Spring in Mexico is a popular time for inexpensive vacations. This could have started almost anywhere, given air flight, and just happened to be noticed first in Mexico. As for anyone first protecting themselves, just from observation, flu vaccines can commonly trigger the disease itself &/or not necessarily protect someone. My guess is this is because of the mutation rate.
-—Can someone DIE of the flu without being sick in bed THE DAY BEFORE???-—
If you read the update, Solis went into the hospital the day after he met with Obama and died about a week later.
Typical MSM. They all reported that the man was dead 24 hours after shaking Soetoro’s hand.
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