and Monster ThickBurger
when they pry it from my cold, dead (from a coronary) fingers!
Mark
Posted on 04/22/2009 11:00:36 AM PDT by rabscuttle385
Do you have a spare tire? Some bulges? Do your thighs rub together? Do you have a big gut?
Well, be prepared to be ostracized.
They already did a number on smokers. It used to be you could smoke almost anywhere, from the supermarket to your workplace. And then they started passing laws until you now have to go to smoke areas which are usually outside and away from everywhere else. Even though OSHA had to admit that second-hand smoke in the workplace cannot affect people except under extreme conditions.
“Field studies of environmental tobacco smoke indicate that under normal conditions, the components in tobacco smoke are diluted below existing Permissible Exposure Levels (PELS.) as referenced in the Air Contaminant Standard (29 CFR 1910.1000)…It would be very rare to find a workplace with so much smoking that any individual PEL would be exceeded.”
-Letter from Greg Watchman, Acting Ass’t Sec’y, OSHA, to Leroy J Pletten, PHD, July 8, 1997
But relentless anti-smoking ads and a successful attempt to ban smoking in most movies and TV has resulted in smokers being made social pariahs.
So now they are going after fat people. The arsenal of mendacity and fraud they’re using comes in many forms. The latest broadside is to link obesity to global warming.
(Excerpt) Read more at bighollywood.breitbart.com ...
ping!
Save the earth: promote eating disorders.
This has been going on for years.
Nothing new.
Good. Go after the fatties for awhile and get off my back!
Fatfree restuarants(who determines the amount of body fat)soon to have a fat zone inside buildings, fat free flights etc. Then here comes the lawsuits ahhh it’s a grand life
Gosh, I wish I had read this before leaving the office for lunch. Because if I had, before leaving Whataburger I would have gotten a fried pie to go with my double w/cheese.
Start with Perez Hilton!
okay so if i am fat and i smoke not only do i have to listen to medical people give me crap about it, i now have to hear envirowackos and politicians give me crap about it. but if i quit smoking, not only would it be unpretty, but children who depend on my taxes for health care would die. if i lose weight, i might live longer and become a burden to humanity and the planet. would this be classified as damned if you do, screwed if you don’t?
I have been trying to cut the calories, eat better, and do more about the extra weight anyway for a while. This latest twist is added incentive. This was the first time I was ever operated on really in my life and don't want to do it anymore.
i like your tag line. another golden carlin bite “you can’t fight city hall, but you can for damn sure blow it up”
I pity the first punk who gives me grief about my weight. All this exercise has strengthened me a bit, and if some little liberal do-gooder gives me any lip, I will pick him up over my head and drop him to the earth. My only hope is that I am smoking a nice cigar at the time, so I may flick it’s ashes on his spinning head.
Does this mean bars and restaurants will now have a "fat people section"?
I happen to agree with the move toward making smoking socially unacceptable. Private business owners should be able to allow or disallow smoking as they see fit (this is where, I grant, the government has gone too far), but when it comes to public places, I say smoking SHOULD be banned. Why should I be forced to breathe some smoker’s disgusting cigarette fumes? Excessive noise pollution (eg. loud music) is generally banned in public places, and air pollution should be too. Why do some smokers think they have a God-given right to stink up the air wherever they please, just because, 30-odd years ago, the law permitted it? And why must so many conservatives take up their cause, as if anti-smoking laws are denying them a civil right?
Besides now i am ready for the O’Bunner famine!
No, they will just be taxed heavily and banned from any public places.
Will the fat tax be ‘progressive”? i.e. will they be charged by the pound?
It will be some combination of income/weight. The lower the income, the more weight is allowed before crossing the tax threshold.
Big Cigarettes was faced with the problem fast foods places could face; to wit, as taxes on packages of cigarettes increased how to stop people from making their own-- no problem!
Have Congress increase the taxes on bulk tobacco by more than 2,000 percent and greatly increase the taxes on paper! What a deal!
Headline? Federal tax imposed on hamburger increases cost by $25 a pound
When I quit smoking, I put on a few pounds. Big deal. Now, if some pencil-necked pipsqueak gives me any s*&t about that, they’re getting a knuckle sandwich!
Follow the money.
The powers to be are just setting the tables to put a fat tax on “junk food’.
From cigarette butts to lard butts :)
(Sorry, I’ll be nice)
Actually I don’t think the two are comparable. I can’t STAND cigarette smoke — it makes me physically ill and I have to leave the area and find fresh air. At least overweight people are only threatening their *own* health.
I thought the same thing when I started reading this (except my gain's pushing 35#'s). I've decided that they are just after me.
I totally agree with you, cigarette smoking is gross and it makes me feel nauseated. As far as fat people, they are only hurting themselves and the people who sit next to them on an airplane.
and Monster ThickBurger
when they pry it from my cold, dead (from a coronary) fingers!
Mark
I’d like to sympathize but I’m a smoker. Tax ‘em by the pound!
You say that until some 300 pounder walks by your table in a restaurant stumbles and falls on you breaking your collar bone or an arm.
Starting with Meg'n!
OK, but at least they’re not threatening *my* health :)
Are you relating this from personal experience? lol
No, I’m pretty nimble. ;^)
Barbecue smells are generally regarded by non-barbecuers as inoffensive and non-poisonous. Cigarette smells are generally regarded by non-smokers as utterly noxious. I never said I was advocating a ban on all smells. Just the disgusting ones.
Your HR department will give you a lot of it. Look for it, it is coming.
You are going to have to be within a few pounds if what they consider normal to be in management.
You are going to have to be within a few pounds if what they consider normal to be in management.
I thank God every day that I am a consultant, I work in remote locations and not an office, and that I am my own supervisor.
Pants fit? Coveralls go on OK? Good to go!
They ARE denying smokers a civil right. If you don't see that, don't call yourself conservative.
PS: Former Smoker. If they piss me off enough, I may take it up again.
Overweight does not bother me. I’ve always been thin without effort, didn’t even gain when I quit smoking. But people I love have struggled with their weight for decades. This new movement against overweight people is just as unfair and fascist as the war on smoking.
The people I have problems with, and no pity for, are the extremely obese. You know, the ones who can’t reach their butt to wipe it.
Me too. Way too much time spent on worthless garbage by the HR department. Management the Japanese Way”, “Management the Amway Way”, etc.
And some of my co-workers had been initimidated by HR people for normal behavior. They need to be reigned in.
Please explain to me how smoking in a public place is a civil right. I’m serious, I’d like to hear a well-reasoned argument.
Most everyone agrees that the things people may do in public places must be curtailed in certain ways. In most cases, for instance, you may not play loud, profane music or run around naked. Smoking is similarly offensive. It smells terrible, and many people are sensitive to it. If you smoke in public, you are infringing on other people’s enjoyment of their environment. The fact that, for many years, people were allowed to smoke unrestricted does not make it acceptable.
1. See the OSHA statement above about the safety. No one is harmed, except possibly the smoker.
2. My personal preferences should not dictate anyone’s behavior. If I want to be away from smoke, I’ll chose a smoke-free environment. If you think YOUR personal preferences about what you smell should dictate anyone else’s behavior, then you are a fascist, not an American conservative. I could easily (since I’m sensitive to exhaust) demand that people stop driving cars, use tires made only of plastic (since I’m allergic to any rubber or latex, and it’s in the air EVERYWHERE) and that no one ever fart outside their own bathroom.
3. The science of smoking is heavily politicized. Hillary Clinton stopped all smoking in the White House, Adolph Hitler restricted it in Germany. The UCLA longitudinal study on smoking had to be published in FRANCE because it turned out politically incorrect.
4. We live in a republic, NOT a democracy. Social pressure on smokers (the “ewwww” response) does not equal legality, which is why politics were stacked to favor the smoke nazis. If some restaurants allowed smoking, and some didn’t, then each person could follow their own preference. Same with the work environment, same with the recreational facilities. IT’S CALLED FREEDOM, and it used to be what the USA was all about.
5. I don’t much care if you consider this a well-reasoned response or not. You have no doubt heard well-reasoned arguments against your position before. I expect you to ignore anything that doesn’t meet with your View.
6. Hillary and Chelsea were smokers. So was Bill. That was all for show.
Well I don’t see what all this has to do with Nazis and Fascists. Methinks that’s where the debate usually goes off the deep end.
Your point about car exhaust is fair enough, although I’d argue that while cars serve a vital purpose in our society, cigarette smoking does not. Your point that “no one is harmed” is debatable. I don’t buy into everything I hear about second-hand smoke, but the stuff still can’t be good for you, especially after prolonged exposure. And if you check my earlier post, you’ll see that I think private businesses should be able to allow or disallow smoking as they see fit and let the patrons choose for themselves. On this, the government has gone too far. It’s public places where I’m happy to see smoking banned. Personally, I think quality of life has improved noticeably since smokers have been banned from stinking up the air wherever they please.
How old are you? Don’t you know ANYTHING about Nazis and fascism?
Oh, God...
Here’s how you make those burgers healthy. Throw away the bun.
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