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Obama Is Refusing Repayment Of Federal Bailout Money From Banks
Needs of the Many ^

Posted on 04/06/2009 8:37:39 AM PDT by vaper69

Now ask yourself why the administration would be hesitant to take TARP repayments.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Conspiracy; Government; Politics
KEYWORDS: bailout; banks; bho2009; bho44; bhoeconomy; bhofascism; debt; democrats; economy; fascism; first100days; obama; porkulus; tarp

1 posted on 04/06/2009 8:37:40 AM PDT by vaper69
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To: vaper69

What ever happened to ‘getting the money back to the taxpayers as quickly as possible’?

Seems just another way that Bambi is acting unilaterally, making decisions on his own, outside his Constitutional jurisdiction, with no Congressional input.


2 posted on 04/06/2009 8:38:51 AM PDT by mnehring
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To: vaper69

Evil intents — a power grab.


3 posted on 04/06/2009 8:39:14 AM PDT by bvw
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To: vaper69

Because if he takes back the money, the governemtn doesn’t control the banks, end of Socialism before it starts.


4 posted on 04/06/2009 8:40:08 AM PDT by sniper63 (Silent and stealthy - one shot - one kill)
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To: vaper69

I can’t wait until Pelosi and Reid start to figure out he’s going to tell them he doesn’t need anymore either.


6 posted on 04/06/2009 8:43:21 AM PDT by autumnraine (Freedom's just another word for nothing left to lose- Kris Kristoferrson VIVA LA REVOLUTION!)
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To: mnehring

IANAL, but: Maybe a bank could put the funds in a trust account, and then continue as if they had repaid the bailout. Perhaps that would give them a little better legal footing.

Maybe.

I’m glad the want to repay the bailout. I’m glad they some are capable of repaying the bailout.

That should be an issue worth telling people about.


7 posted on 04/06/2009 8:44:31 AM PDT by Miykayl
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To: SonOfPyrodex

....your friend, .... D.


8 posted on 04/06/2009 8:44:59 AM PDT by Mashood
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To: Miykayl

I really doubt that the feds would recognize the money being placed in a trust as a reason to relinquish control. It would be symbolic for the consumer, but the way Bambi and his minions are acting, they may just fire everyone who tries to repay the money and put their own puppets in there. This is getting eerily way to similar ton 1934 Weimar.


9 posted on 04/06/2009 8:47:49 AM PDT by mnehring
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To: Miykayl
I wish a bank or two would run ads saying:

“Taxpayers, Obama will NOT let us pay back this money, but HERE it is, whenever your government gets around to really protecting taxpayer dollars” -—

Then show a bank account number on the screen, like that guy that gives his Social Security # for “Life Lock”!

10 posted on 04/06/2009 8:48:35 AM PDT by Kansas58
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To: vaper69
If this is true why don't the banker's “nut up” and go public?

Loud and public, an din the open with the boards and shareholders.

Reveal the name of any “administration official” who threatens them with IRS audits or other harassment for paying back the govt money.

Ken Lewis? We want to hear from you. Fear and silence only buys you time that will run out when Geithner decides to take your bank.

This dirty slimy fascistic crap by Geithner et al needs some bleach poured on it- by brave Americans willing to stand up and speak out.

11 posted on 04/06/2009 8:49:53 AM PDT by silverleaf (We live in interesting times: now the entire IRS works for a tax evader)
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To: Miykayl
Under the doctrine of legal tender, which has been ensconced in federal law since at least 1933, a legal tender for payment of public or private debt cannot be refused. If it is refused, the debt is supposed to be cancelled, by law.

Be very interesting to see what happens if a TARP borrower pulled up several Brink's trucks full of $100 bills to the Treasury building and tendered repayment of the TARP funds. VERY interesting.

12 posted on 04/06/2009 8:50:17 AM PDT by SAJ
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To: mnehring
Lets look at the “control” Obama has:

If a company NEEDS more money? The Board, at that company, is going to be rather compliant with Obama’s wishes.

I think a company that documents that it WANTS to repay the money, and perhaps that it did not WANT the money in the first place -—

Could safely tell Obama to go to hell!

When Obama TRIES to interfere, go to the Courts.

13 posted on 04/06/2009 8:50:42 AM PDT by Kansas58
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To: Kansas58
A little tweak:

“Taxpayers, Obama will NOT let us pay back this YOUR money to you...

Personalize it.

14 posted on 04/06/2009 8:51:58 AM PDT by mnehring
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To: SAJ

It would also be great publicity. Spin it that they are trying to return the money back to the taxpayer (as the previous poster talked about) and Obama is refusing to take the money back to return to you..


15 posted on 04/06/2009 8:53:26 AM PDT by mnehring
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To: vaper69

And how heavy is our MSM coverage?


16 posted on 04/06/2009 8:54:52 AM PDT by Oldpuppymax (AGENDA OF THE LEFT EXPOSED)
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To: vaper69

Forpete’s sake. All a bank has to do is make an EFT deposit to the Treasury. End of story.


17 posted on 04/06/2009 8:55:50 AM PDT by pabianice
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To: mnehring

Saul?

Thanks!

LOL


18 posted on 04/06/2009 8:57:02 AM PDT by Kansas58
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To: mnehring

Exactly. The PR aspects of such an action would probably outweigh the net monetary profit. Such a bank would be hailed nationwide, and undoubtedly see an enormous rise in business, by having proved beyond any doubt its honesty and solvency.


19 posted on 04/06/2009 8:58:29 AM PDT by SAJ
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To: pabianice

You’re missing out the PR aspects of a VERY public repayment by a bank of its TARP loans. Win-win-win situation if ever there was one.


20 posted on 04/06/2009 8:59:23 AM PDT by SAJ
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To: pabianice
You are wrong.

There are SEVERAL different US Government accounts.

Is this corporate TAX money?

Is this employment tax withholding?

Is this a government loan?

You are being very simplistic. Would you hand money of any amount to someone, without a “receipt” as to what that money transaction accomplished?

21 posted on 04/06/2009 8:59:52 AM PDT by Kansas58
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To: SAJ

Obummer is a control freak. The only problem with that is he is also a clueless, naive stumblebum who has never learned that whenever government controls anything whether it be health care, a railroad or the post office, it always fails and it does so on a huge scale and always with taxpayer money!


22 posted on 04/06/2009 9:00:54 AM PDT by Ev Reeman
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To: Ev Reeman

Preaching to the choir, m’FRiend. He is also a malignant narcissist and a very thoroughgoing fascist, by strict lexicographic definition.


23 posted on 04/06/2009 9:10:42 AM PDT by SAJ
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To: vaper69

Under the Coinage Act of 1965, Section 31 U.S.C. 5103, a private business, individual or state governemt can refuse legal tender, but not the federal government. Refusing payment by the federal government is essentially the same as forgiving the debt.


24 posted on 04/06/2009 9:28:58 AM PDT by BuffaloJack (To stand up for Capitalism is to hope Teleprompter Boy fails.)
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To: vaper69

Easy question to answer: If they pay the money back they can’t easily be brought under government control. Bozo would lose that excuse for taking over.


25 posted on 04/06/2009 9:33:09 AM PDT by calex59
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To: SAJ

It’s financial perception. Banks not repaying would be seen
as weak or failing, which could cause a run....


26 posted on 04/06/2009 9:34:28 AM PDT by OregonRancher (Some days, it's not even worth chewing through the restraints)
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To: vaper69

Controlling the banks makes it easier to steal what’s left of our money.

Between controlling the banks and means of production, a global currency, unconstitutional legislation and now the means to confiscate money in private accounts, when is it enough? At what point do the people rebel?


27 posted on 04/06/2009 9:41:39 AM PDT by NTHockey (Rules of engagement #1: Take no prisoners.)
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To: OregonRancher
And to where would people run? Why, to the banks that very publicly repaid their TARP debt.

Net-net, everyone (except goobermint) wins. Sound banks get more business; bank depositors wind up in sounder banks, thus generating another layer of security for them.

Insolvent banks need to be closed or forced to merge or be bought. Solvent banks need to be left alone. Banks in some amount of recoverable difficulty need to be assisted to recover, but no further than that.

Gee, come to think of it, that's exactly what the Swedes did in 1992-1993. Cleared the dead wood and stayed out of the way (mostly) of the competent. With the result that, btw, as of last September when the banking system ratings came out, the Swedes were rated 2nd soundest banking system overall. (Singapore, of course, was rated #1).

28 posted on 04/06/2009 9:44:25 AM PDT by SAJ
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To: vaper69

bump .... this isn’t about money ... it’s about power.


29 posted on 04/06/2009 9:59:18 AM PDT by Centurion2000 (01-20-2009 : The end of the PAX AMERICANA.)
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To: SAJ
Under the doctrine of legal tender, which has been ensconced in federal law since at least 1933, a legal tender for payment of public or private debt cannot be refused. If it is refused, the debt is supposed to be cancelled, by law.

That would be interesting indeed. Bad for us though.

30 posted on 04/06/2009 10:00:38 AM PDT by Centurion2000 (01-20-2009 : The end of the PAX AMERICANA.)
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To: vaper69

He is using the same methodology as the mafia and drug lords, you become indebted for life, no matter what you do you are OWNED.


31 posted on 04/06/2009 10:03:44 AM PDT by Eye of Unk ("If there must be trouble, let it be in my day, that my child may have peace." T. Paine)
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To: Centurion2000
As another poster has mentioned, the Coinage Act of 1965 restricted legal tender doctrine. It **still** applies, though, with regard to debts to the US goobermint. Turbo Tax Timmy could not refuse a bank's TARP repayment w/o cancelling the debt and making the taxpayers eat it.

Well, he couldn't if we're assuming that the Kenyan and TTT would follow the law and not change it by issuing yet another ukase.

32 posted on 04/06/2009 10:12:48 AM PDT by SAJ
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To: autumnraine

That will be his last voluntary act she will have his stones removed from the neck down.


33 posted on 04/06/2009 10:19:21 AM PDT by Vaduz
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To: vaper69

Bookmark


34 posted on 04/06/2009 1:14:21 PM PDT by Earthdweller (Socialism makes you feel better about oppressing people.....)
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To: mnehring
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35 posted on 04/06/2009 8:01:52 PM PDT by WOBBLY BOB (ACORN:American Corruption for Obama Right Now)
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To: vaper69

WTF? Obama needs to be held accountable to the taxpayer.


36 posted on 04/06/2009 9:23:04 PM PDT by KC_Conspirator
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