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The Disgrace of Hurricane Katrina
artorius castus blog ^ | 29 Jan 09 | Patrick Truax

Posted on 01/29/2009 11:43:00 AM PST by cardinal4

One can’t reflect upon the recent changing of the guard in Washington, without recalling the previous one. And in this instance, one can’t judge the previous guard without bringing up Hurricane Katrina.

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TOPICS: Government; Politics
KEYWORDS: bds; blanco; bush; corruption; cultureofcorruption; democratscandals; jefferson; katrina; media; nagin; nationalguard; puttheminharmsway
The Left got away with blaming a sitting President for a hurricane..
1 posted on 01/29/2009 11:43:01 AM PST by cardinal4
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To: cardinal4

Meanwhile Congress still hasn’t gone after William Jefferson, a man with cold cash who used National Guard troops to escort him to his house to get some $$$ in the Katrina aftermath.


2 posted on 01/29/2009 11:45:23 AM PST by a fool in paradise (Obama thinks spending tax $ on abortions in Mexico helps more than controlling illegal immigration)
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To: cardinal4

You know what I find irritating about this?

It was the most successful human airlift in history.


3 posted on 01/29/2009 11:46:39 AM PST by Badeye (There are no 'great moments' in Moderate Political History. Only losses.)
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To: a fool in paradise

And no one, to my knowledge, has ever explained just where did the money go that was paying for the auxiliaries?


4 posted on 01/29/2009 11:47:38 AM PST by cardinal4 (Dont Tread on Me)
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To: Badeye

The pumping operation went well, too, after the initial problems they had. Law Enforcement, however..


5 posted on 01/29/2009 11:48:35 AM PST by cardinal4 (Dont Tread on Me)
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To: cardinal4

“The Left got away with blaming a sitting President for a hurricane..”

Not logically, but emotionally. They got “Bush” emotionally hooked to “Katrina”

We are seriously witnessing a new kind of mind control being used on people. They know the audience, they know how to manipulate that audience, and they are doing it.


6 posted on 01/29/2009 11:48:48 AM PST by chuck_the_tv_out
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To: chuck_the_tv_out

It’s the same Pravda Media techniques employed by Stalin and Goebbels. They study such things in communications classes.

The goal is the same, thought control.


7 posted on 01/29/2009 11:50:42 AM PST by a fool in paradise (Obama thinks spending tax $ on abortions in Mexico helps more than controlling illegal immigration)
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To: cardinal4

‘Law Enforcement, however..’

Was a failure at the local level.

Note that stuff stopped the minute the General showed up, told the media they were ‘stuck on stupid’ and laughed at the bogus ‘sniper’ stories.


8 posted on 01/29/2009 11:51:00 AM PST by Badeye (There are no 'great moments' in Moderate Political History. Only losses.)
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To: cardinal4

If I remember correctly the Governor of Louisiana refused to allow the National Guard into the flood zone for many hours. Plous the mayor had refused to evacuate the place with hundreds of buses at his disposal.


9 posted on 01/29/2009 11:55:21 AM PST by GeronL (Had the flu. Not well yet.)
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To: cardinal4

Most people don’t understand that emergency relief falls under the governor’s office.

The gulf coast is a hurricane zone. It has always been a hurricane zone and it always will be. The people who live there know that. They have a hundred years of experience dealing with what is to them a part of life.

Put an incompentent boob in charge of the state house, and you’ll get a disaster. Put someone reasonably competent and things will go as they should. Even an incompetent in the state house wouldn’t normally do much damage if he’ll just let his professionals do what they know how to do. Governor Blanco was an outrageous case, in that she refused to allow the National Guard or any other rescue agency to go into New Orleans... because it wasn’t safe.

That has never happened before or since. There is nothing like it in my memory anywhere. The Navy and the Coast Guard were there doing what they do before the wind stopped blowing. FEMA’s people were prepositioned ahead of the storm ready to go. Neighboring states called up their Guard units and offered them to Louisiana; they were ready to go. Supplies poured into the area from everywhere, and sat outside the city awaiting an order to go that never came.

The disaster that was Katrina didn’t happen in the neighboring states because their Guard and rescue units were on the ground immediately. Things didn’t turn around in New Orleans until Bush federalized it and took control away from the governor. Thats the truth that the press has tried to erase from the public memory.


10 posted on 01/29/2009 11:56:29 AM PST by marron
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To: GeronL
the Governor of Louisiana refused to allow the National Guard into the flood zone for many hours

Not hours. More like a week.

11 posted on 01/29/2009 11:57:29 AM PST by marron
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To: marron

She was the one who be blamed.


12 posted on 01/29/2009 11:58:13 AM PST by GeronL (Had the flu. Not well yet.)
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To: a fool in paradise

As a Katrina survivor, it galls me that Bush was blamed for the “federal response”. The people to blame are Nagin & Blanco (dumb & dumber). Nagin refused to issue the mandatory evacuation til noon Sunday-(Katrina hit 6:10 Monday morning) b/c he was worried about being sued by the hotels & restaurant owners. Blanco refused to order in the LA National Guard immediately to follow the orders of the DNC & embarress Bush. (so people were forced to wait another 2 days for help).
I’ve always told people Nagin & Blanco should be sued in class action for negligent homocide.


13 posted on 01/29/2009 11:58:35 AM PST by mta504nola
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To: marron

So in other words it is Bush’s fault, right?


14 posted on 01/29/2009 11:58:47 AM PST by Eagle Eye (Libs- If you don't have to play the rules then neither do we...THINK ABOUT IT!)
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To: marron
Blanco's non-response was calculated to give the president a black eye.

The rats orchestrated the whole thing.

And Sheperd Smith was their useful idiot.

15 posted on 01/29/2009 11:59:36 AM PST by HIDEK6
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To: cardinal4
I explained it on another thread:

Louisiana got a ton of money. The problem is that it went to politicians who doled it out to bureaucrats so they could create committees to hire experts to write studies to submit to a panel who created guidelines, requirements, rules, and procedures for people who lost everything to abide by in order to protect the state from being cheated out of money by people by people pretending to have lost everything when in fact they did not. (breath) Then, they hired a bunch of appraisers who low-balled the value of a home so the homeowners would appeal the amount to another panel and the state then had to hire more appraisers, accountants, actuaries, and attorneys to testify that the state's amount was correct only to have said panel agree with the homeowner's appraisal. (breath) THEN, the state created another bureaucracy for the homeowners to submit their paperwork to, only to refuse to give the homeowner a check because the owner had lost some piece of paper along the way and didn't have sufficient information for the bureaucrat to determine the accuracy of the homeowner's file (sadly, the bureaucrat did not have ANY of the homeowner's paperwork in his files because that information is stored in a different department). When the homeowner returns after finding the paper, a new "public servant" has been assigned to his file and is unaware of conversations with the previous bureaucrat because no notes were taken and again denies the homeowner because of a different piece of missing paper. When the homeowner finally gets everything he needs together, the billions of dollars given to the state has amazingly disappeared. Whoda thunk?" Meanwhile, the state was cheated out of hundreds of thousands of dollars by people pretending to have lost everything, but did not.

In short, government took it, for "the greater good."

16 posted on 01/29/2009 12:00:45 PM PST by Melpomene
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To: GeronL

“the Governor of Louisiana refused to allow the National Guard into the flood zone for many hours.”

It wasn’t hours, it was days. Hurricanes have been hitting the U.S. FOR YEARS without the kinds of problems we saw in New Orleans. It was a complete failure on the part of LOCAL GOVERNMENT, period.


17 posted on 01/29/2009 12:00:53 PM PST by popdonnelly (The problem with Obama is that he believes his own hype.)
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To: GeronL

I believe they thought they could handle it themselves knowing the federal entry would have exposed the corruption. And I think she activated them before Bush arrived.


18 posted on 01/29/2009 12:05:41 PM PST by cardinal4 (Dont Tread on Me)
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To: a fool in paradise

“same Media techniques employed by Stalin and Goebbels”

Yes, but things are actually a lot more advanced now. The stuff you reference was blatant and obvious. The stuff we are witnessing now is seemingly innocuous and unprovable.


19 posted on 01/29/2009 12:06:49 PM PST by chuck_the_tv_out
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To: chuck_the_tv_out

“The stuff we are witnessing now is seemingly innocuous and unprovable.”

Actually they are quite bold “consensus” “the debate is over” “everyone is in near agreement” “fake but accurate” “no controlling legal authority” “depends on what the meaning of IS is” “the most trusted man in America” “the war is now unwinable” “fair and balanced” “the most trusted news source” “the paper of record” “all things considered” “democracy now”

All lies.


20 posted on 01/29/2009 12:09:48 PM PST by a fool in paradise (Obama thinks spending tax $ on abortions in Mexico helps more than controlling illegal immigration)
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To: cardinal4

The left also got away with shifting horrible decisions from an incompetent DEM mayor and DEM governor to Bushie and his team.


21 posted on 01/29/2009 12:10:46 PM PST by beaversmom
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To: popdonnelly

We know it is, my point was, enough people believed eyeliner Shephard wetting his pants on TV, and that contributed largely to the election of a Ray Nagin clone, Barack Obama.

The media and the DNC used Katrina to get back congress and elect a democrat to the White House. It was based on a sham.


22 posted on 01/29/2009 12:14:11 PM PST by cardinal4 (Dont Tread on Me)
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To: marron
The truly irritating thing is when you try to explain to a Liberal boob that the President is not authorized to send aid or troops unless the governor of the state requests it.
Their stock answer is that "Bush should have gone in anyway."

It always comes down to one of the most glaring disconnects between conservatives and liberal loonies (y'know, Us & Them);
They simply DO NOT understand, nor have they likely even read The Constitution of The United States of America.

These days, I start any such discussion with a Lib Loon by asking a question..."By the way, have you read the Constitution?"
If they lie and say they have, you've got them. If they don't lie and say they haven't, discussion is over before it starts...Thus keeping my blood pressure at an acceptable 130/80.

23 posted on 01/29/2009 12:14:33 PM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts (All the oil's in Texas...but all the dipsticks are in Washington, DC.)
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts

Graet tagline..


24 posted on 01/29/2009 12:15:34 PM PST by cardinal4 (Dont Tread on Me)
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To: cardinal4
The insufficiently maybe even untold story for New Orleans is the years of levee funding that went to corruption and waste under almost continuous Democrat administrations in the city, county and state levels. When Katrina initially hit, EVERYTHING was OK. It was the levee failures that developed the real disaster as the flooding became unstoppable.

The media saw disaster and asked where was President Bush, not Mayor Nagin or Governor Blanco. What a crock - blame the rescuer of LAST RESORT (National Government) not the FIRST RESPONDERS (City, County and State) that FAILED!!!

25 posted on 01/29/2009 12:20:15 PM PST by SES1066 (Cycling to conserve, Conservative to save, Saving to Retire, will Retire to Cycle.)
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To: cardinal4

Yep. My argument isn’t with you, it’s with the boneheads who want to blame the Katrina debacle on Bush.


26 posted on 01/29/2009 12:21:04 PM PST by popdonnelly (The problem with Obama is that he believes his own hype.)
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To: marron
the Governor of Louisiana refused to allow the National Guard into the flood zone for many hours Not hours. More like a week.

She was just following orders from her DNC masters in Washington.

27 posted on 01/29/2009 12:22:24 PM PST by dfwgator (1996 2006 2008 - Good Things Come in Threes)
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To: HIDEK6

“Blanco’s non-response was calculated to give the president a black eye”

Are you saying that the Democrats denied aid and endangered people during a natural disaster, just for political purposes. Because, if the non-response was orchestrated, that is exactly what they did. I did find it strange that the governor relied on the Clinton FEMA director instead of attempting to work with the administration, it was also evident from the onset that the MSM had no interest in honest and accurate reporting. Here is an example of the biased reporting associated with Hurricane Katrina http://slate.msn.com/id/2125224/


28 posted on 01/29/2009 12:35:53 PM PST by Peter Horry (We shouldn't accept things just because somebody says so .... Dixie Lee Ray)
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To: Melpomene

This is a blueprint for where the trillion bucks will go when Zero gets his stimulus bill passed.


29 posted on 01/29/2009 12:39:57 PM PST by wrench
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To: a fool in paradise

Very well stated!

comment bookmarked


30 posted on 01/29/2009 12:45:02 PM PST by woollyone ("When the tide is low, even a shrimp has its own puddle." - Vance Havner)
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To: cardinal4

As I recall, within hours of the hurricane hiting New Orleans, the left was blaming Bush for it. “if only he had signed the Kyoto Accord”. “The mere fact that he had signed the Kyoto Accord would have prevented this hurricane”


31 posted on 01/29/2009 12:58:55 PM PST by dirtymac (Now is the time for all good men to come to the aid of their country. Really! It's time; NOW)
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To: wrench

I’m scared to death if they take over health care (maybe that’s a good thing).


32 posted on 01/29/2009 1:01:38 PM PST by Melpomene
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To: Peter Horry

Well I remember the video clip of Blanco whispering into an open mic that she didn’t send in the National Guard because she didn’t want to put people in harms way.

This statement can be taken several ways...

That our National Guard, who were serving in Iraq but also working stateside, were babykillers who engaged in war crimes (anti-military rhetoric from the Left)...

That the National Guard would impose a “police state” on the good people of Louisiana...

That the National Guard would be endangered by encountering a violent civilian population in Louisiana (post-apocoplyptic mindset that did nothing about gang crime and police corruption)...

Or perhaps she was afraid of having “outsiders” see how things “are run” in New Orleans and elsewhere in Louisiana (like payment for police who didn’t really exist).


33 posted on 01/29/2009 1:01:48 PM PST by a fool in paradise (Obama thinks spending tax $ on abortions in Mexico helps more than controlling illegal immigration)
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To: HIDEK6

You give too much credit to Blank-o. She is D-U-M-B.


34 posted on 01/29/2009 1:05:36 PM PST by Melpomene
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To: Melpomene

Just look at the Motor Vehicles Department in your home state, that’s what government run health care will be like..


35 posted on 01/29/2009 1:14:28 PM PST by cardinal4 (Dont Tread on Me)
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To: popdonnelly

Boneheads, indeed. When Shep was weeping on the air, screaming about snipers, I thought I was Lewis Carroll, it was that bizarre, watching events unfold with Shep carrying on like a little girl..


36 posted on 01/29/2009 1:18:34 PM PST by cardinal4 (Dont Tread on Me)
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To: a fool in paradise

Post 33

I think it was, at least, partly because she didn’t want outsiders to see their mess (MSM did yeoman work on helping her) and partly because of their laxidasical attitude and their indecision. A blogger was posting from scanner traffic during the storm and reported that there was very little radio traffic until the National Guard arrived on site (National Guard reported instances of well over an hour when LA Homeland Security could not be contacted) but it was busy after that (by noon the day after the guard arrived the Calvary was arriving). It was also clear that the Democrats were playing games Pres. Bush was being pressured to declare Martial Law but LA would not agree to it, Pres. Bush then sent in Federal Law Enforcement (primarily US Marshals) to help restore order .... guest you could say he declared Marshal Law. I believe this little episode will cost the MSM and the Democrats in ways they don’t expect, far too many people were not fooled.


37 posted on 01/29/2009 1:55:13 PM PST by Peter Horry (We shouldn't accept things just because somebody says so .... Dixie Lee Ray)
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To: Peter Horry
Are you saying that the Democrats denied aid and endangered people during a natural disaster, just for political purposes.

That's exactly what I'm saying.

The rats have had a long history of doing just this.

They don't care about the welfare of The United States of America. They're only interested in having power.

38 posted on 01/29/2009 1:57:25 PM PST by HIDEK6
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To: Melpomene
You give too much credit to Blank-o. She is D-U-M-B.

The republicans are the dumb party.

The rats are the evil party.

39 posted on 01/29/2009 1:58:56 PM PST by HIDEK6
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To: cardinal4

funny no one needed FEMA’s help to get to DC for the inaugaration


40 posted on 01/29/2009 1:59:59 PM PST by edzo4 (NoBama 2012)
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To: edzo4

The Missouri and Iowa folks along the Big Muddy didn’t either, they came anyway. Don’t get me wrong, it was welcomed aid. But Shep Smith didn’t come out here and wet his pants on TV..


41 posted on 01/29/2009 2:12:08 PM PST by cardinal4 (Dont Tread on Me)
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts

“Their stock answer is that ‘Bush should have gone in anyway.’”

Right. Just like Lincoln did.


42 posted on 01/29/2009 5:30:32 PM PST by Tublecane
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