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Jews Chill Out - Zbigniew Brzezinski: Rockets Were "Provocative, Harrasing, Annoying But Not Lethal"
APRPEH ^ | 4 Teves 5769/30 December 2008 | APRPEH

Posted on 12/30/2008 4:31:44 PM PST by APRPEH

There are few antiJews in the world such as Zbigniew Brzezinski who can speak from one side of their mouth, stating the obvious that Hamas "provoked" Israel into the current offensive and has "harassed" Israel with rockets and then almost immediately thereafter do a logical flip - toss in the proportional force argument along with a moral equivalence claim. ZB thinks that because Israel has done significant damage to Hamas "does that mean punishment has to be on that scale? 400 killed 1,400 wounded? (Scarborough asks: What would you recommend) I would recommend a process by which you limit such casualties and limit them very significantly." In other words, you Jews must not seek to deter those who want to kill you. Extend your necks like your ancestors did in the old days. more

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TOPICS: History; Politics; Religion; Society
KEYWORDS: antisemitism; appeasement; brzezinski; gaza; islam; israel; jihad; obama; obamatransitionfile
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Scarborough v. Brzezinski
1 posted on 12/30/2008 4:31:48 PM PST by APRPEH
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To: APRPEH

Tell me again how important he was in the Carter Administration ...


2 posted on 12/30/2008 4:33:45 PM PST by Ken522
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To: APRPEH

Here, sit right here Zbig while I lite this one and see what you think.

Jews are going to have buyers remorse really quick on this one. Who wants to live where some nut cases fire rockets and mortars at you any time they want.


3 posted on 12/30/2008 4:34:52 PM PST by Tarpon (America's first principles, freedom, liberty, market economy and self-reliance will never fail.)
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To: APRPEH
the big news is that Zbigniew is an antisemitic of Jimmy Carter proportions.
4 posted on 12/30/2008 4:35:29 PM PST by Vaquero ( "an armed society is a polite society" Robert A. Heinlein)
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To: APRPEH

He’s going senile...


5 posted on 12/30/2008 4:36:06 PM PST by xcamel (The urge to save humanity is always a false front for the urge to rule it. - H. L. Mencken)
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To: Vaquero
Outside of Jimmah himself, it'd be hard to find a more despicable representative of the Jimmah Cahtah administration.
6 posted on 12/30/2008 4:37:04 PM PST by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: APRPEH

Perhaps maybe next time they shouldn’t “Provoke or Harrass” the Jews then.


7 posted on 12/30/2008 4:37:10 PM PST by FrdmLvr (What fresh hell is this?)
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To: APRPEH

“So shut up and take it like a good little Jew in the ghetto we provided for you. We haven’t really killed anyone, so what are you complaining about?”

< / Pre-Genocide>


8 posted on 12/30/2008 4:37:12 PM PST by Uncle Miltie (Women were treated like livestock by Mohammad, so Allah must want women treated like cows forever.)
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To: APRPEH

Hey Zbiggy, tell that to the families of those Israelis killed by those ‘not lethal’ rockets.

And if the rockets weren’t lethal then Hamas wouldn’t be firing them. Seriously, what point would there be to doing this by Hamas?

Anybody who worked for Carter should essentially be banned from serving in Government for a cooling off period of like 50 years. That would ensure that anybody in power then would be too old to be consulted.


9 posted on 12/30/2008 4:37:16 PM PST by bpjam (GOP is 3 - 0 in elections after Nov 4th. You Can Smell the Rally !!!)
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To: APRPEH

This encapsulates America’s weakness during the Carter years.


10 posted on 12/30/2008 4:37:19 PM PST by Finalapproach29er (Democrats still want to get Pres. Bush and/or VP Cheney; there might be show trials in Feb09)
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To: APRPEH
Zbigniew Brzezinski is an embarrassment to all freedom loving Polish people.
11 posted on 12/30/2008 4:38:14 PM PST by reg45
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To: APRPEH
"provocative, harassing, annoying but not lethal"

If this is an accurate quote, Obama needs to be harassed until he denounces Brzezinski and has nothing to do with him.

ML/NJ

12 posted on 12/30/2008 4:39:11 PM PST by ml/nj
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To: APRPEH

“Zbigniew Brzezinski: Rockets Were “Provocative, Harrasing, Annoying But Not Lethal”

Except of course to THE DEAD PEOPLE!


13 posted on 12/30/2008 4:40:30 PM PST by Grunthor (Democracy: Theory that the common people know what they want and deserve to get it good and hard)
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To: Ken522
Must be the inspiration for John Kerry's "terrorism is a nuisance" concept of foreign policy. Zbig was highly visible during the Carter regime but never had a very coherent outlook. Sort of a bastardized realpolitik one could say.

I think the 'rats liked him because with his accent he reminded them of Kissinger.

14 posted on 12/30/2008 4:40:32 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: ml/nj

watch the interview.... linked on the post...


15 posted on 12/30/2008 4:42:07 PM PST by APRPEH (Fred RNC)
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To: APRPEH
Does anyone know precisely what his position in Obama's administration is? And how much O listens to him? And why on earth O picked Zbig of all people as an advisor?

If anyone has ever seen a worse National Security Advisor than Zbig, I'd rather not hear about it, since I can't remember one, and he's bad enough.

16 posted on 12/30/2008 4:42:16 PM PST by squidly
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To: xcamel

No, he is merely Liberal. And Liberalism is the dominant belief system in our society, with Other-Worship being an important component of that system.


17 posted on 12/30/2008 4:42:29 PM PST by oscars300
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To: Ken522

Too bad Hamas doesn’t send one into that Liberal schmuck’s back yard ASAP.


18 posted on 12/30/2008 4:44:15 PM PST by ExTexasRedhead
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To: oscars300

Liberalism is senility for younger people.


19 posted on 12/30/2008 4:46:18 PM PST by xcamel (The urge to save humanity is always a false front for the urge to rule it. - H. L. Mencken)
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To: Ken522

It’s how important he’ll be in the Obama administration that has me worried.


20 posted on 12/30/2008 4:47:28 PM PST by NonValueAdded (once you get to really know people, there are always better reasons than [race] for despising them.)
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To: APRPEH
Rockets Were "Provocative, Harassing, Annoying But Not Lethal"

One should land on his head!!!

21 posted on 12/30/2008 4:48:52 PM PST by reg45
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To: xcamel

Oh, it’s not senility — he’s been hostile to Israel forever.

Carter and Zbig were made for each other — coddling Islamo-terrorists and criticizing Israel for defending itself against terrorists.

I only wish we could put Zbig and Carter in the midst of Hamastan so that they could try life in the firing zone while they try to talk “peace” to Hamas.


22 posted on 12/30/2008 4:49:05 PM PST by Enchante (Bernie Madoff Learned His Ponzi-Investment Strategy from our Social Security System!!)
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To: APRPEH
Hmmm. How about an Order of Magnitude Evaluation (OME)? If you consider that the entire Muslim world, all 1.3 billion of them, hate and want to destroy Israel, and assume that the 5.5 million Jewish Israelis are their target, the Israelis have to kill or wound the bad guys at a rate of about 225 to 1 just to keep pace. Counting only the 540+ dead victims of suicide bombers since 2000, the Israelis would have had to kill over 120,000 Palestinians/Syrians/Lebanese/Iranians/etc. in the same period. If you also consider the 8400 or so wounded and maimed, the Israelis would need to have wounded or maimed 1.89 million 'enemy' (including 1.3 million civilians). I am pretty sure that the Israelis are currently losing from that viewpoint.

Today's OME brought to you courtesy of calenel.

23 posted on 12/30/2008 5:03:06 PM PST by calenel (The Democratic Party is a Criminal Enterprise. It is the Socialist Mafia.)
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To: APRPEH

Yes, he is right, they were rockets filled with marshmallows.


24 posted on 12/30/2008 5:07:49 PM PST by yarddog
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To: APRPEH

Zbig, while you’re in the democrat outhouse, I’m gonna throw a concussion grenade in there, just to see if it provokes you, okay Polski?


25 posted on 12/30/2008 5:08:10 PM PST by gitmogrunt
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To: APRPEH

Mr. Zbig Stuff was always a fierce anti-communist and a prime architect in the strategy of arming and using Islamic militants against the Soviets in Afghanistan. He looked at the population numbers in a very cold way and decided, “Screw the Israelis; there’s more benefit to be had from alliance with the Muslims.”


26 posted on 12/30/2008 5:11:14 PM PST by Mogwai (Palin/Santorum 2012!)
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To: APRPEH
Hey Brzezinski, it's all fun and games till someone starts pooping in your punchbowl.
I hope this person is using a keyboard, because a real pencil might put his eye out.
27 posted on 12/30/2008 5:13:45 PM PST by MaxMax (I'll welcome death when God calls me. Until then, the fight is on)
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To: APRPEH
Zbigniew Brzezinski calls the shots for his puppet Obama - has ever since he tapped him at Columbia.


28 posted on 12/30/2008 5:18:50 PM PST by Obamageddon (Birth certificate and college transcripts will be required for Federal employment, Mr. Soetero)
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To: APRPEH
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29 posted on 12/30/2008 5:25:36 PM PST by cruise_missile
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To: APRPEH; Ken522

I worked for him in the White House as a lowly Army Intel Analyst. You have NO IDEA how bad he is. And yes, he was VERY important. He’s the democrats’ Henry Kissinger, with all that that implies.


30 posted on 12/30/2008 5:29:09 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (Barack Obama: In Error and arrogant -- he's errogant!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
I worked for him in the White House as a lowly Army Intel Analyst. You have NO IDEA how bad he is. And yes, he was VERY important. He’s the democrats’ Henry Kissinger, with all that that implies.

Fascinating.

What's his weakness? Other than being completely devoid of human emotions (except the lust for power), what is his motivation, and what does he fear?

31 posted on 12/30/2008 5:42:49 PM PST by TonyStark
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To: APRPEH

Zbigniew Brzezinski is the guy who thought the Ayatollah Khomeini would be a great ally. He is the reason we back-stabbed the Shah and he’s the reason we face Ahmadinejad today. He is the genius that turned Iran from being our closest ally in the middle east to being our greatest enemy.


32 posted on 12/30/2008 5:43:23 PM PST by marron
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To: TonyStark
Not to be a Bircher or tinfoil hat type: He takes his orders from CFR, as does Secretary Kissinger. Google his biography. He was raised in a diplomatic family and is very much a United Nations backer. He is perhaps the meanest man I've ever met, and like many in power, treats those below him as serfs. His biggest weakness, IMO, is that he thinks he smarter than he is, which is very common among the intelligentsia. As a lowly enlisted man, I was a piece of furniture, but I've seen him berate and badger men in high positions (Undersecretary's, SES, Generals, etc)
33 posted on 12/30/2008 5:49:41 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (Barack Obama: In Error and arrogant -- he's errogant!)
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To: xcamel
Liberalism is senility for younger people.

LOL!!!

34 posted on 12/30/2008 5:51:42 PM PST by Nuc1 (NUC1 Sub pusher SSN 668 (Liberals Aren't Patriots))
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To: Nuc1

You must has spent a little time up in West Milton, Eh?


35 posted on 12/30/2008 5:52:34 PM PST by xcamel (The urge to save humanity is always a false front for the urge to rule it. - H. L. Mencken)
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To: APRPEH

Somebody ought to take a few pot shots at his windows and see how understanding he is...


36 posted on 12/30/2008 5:56:33 PM PST by aquila48
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To: Vaquero

How so? Jacob Heilbrun in his book about the Neo cons states that Jewish neocons simply hated him b/c he was Polish. That is, ahem, bigotry.


37 posted on 12/30/2008 6:15:51 PM PST by sobieski
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To: Grunthor

Sorry, but there certainly weren’t 300 dead people.

How many were there? The New York Post - a neocon beacon - said there were none and that the war was started b/c the government is behind in the polls.


38 posted on 12/30/2008 6:17:22 PM PST by sobieski
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To: Enchante

Hostile to Israel; when exactly. When M. Begin was signing the peace treaty? I don’t think Begin was hostile to Israel.


39 posted on 12/30/2008 6:18:18 PM PST by sobieski
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To: gitmogrunt

Dude, if you want to use a foreign language, don’t look stupid by using it incorrectly.

Putz.


40 posted on 12/30/2008 6:19:18 PM PST by sobieski
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To: sobieski

I believe the man was saying that the Hamas rocket attacks had not killed people. This is what I was responding to.


41 posted on 12/30/2008 6:20:24 PM PST by Grunthor (Democracy: Theory that the common people know what they want and deserve to get it good and hard)
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To: sobieski

Brzezinski has many times through the years displayed the kind of UN-loving, Israel-hating idiocy that is so typical of the left.

Just for one example, during the 2006 Lebanon crisis he came down strongly on the side of the terrorists, blaming Israel for all “collateral damage” and calling upon Israel to unilaterally disarm. Just as in the current crisis he thinks it’s no big deal that rockets are raining down on Israeli towns unless a lot more Jews are being killed (exactly how many rockets and how many dead Jews would be pushing the limits of indifference to you, Mr. Brzezinski?).

Oh, of course he doesn’t put it in exactly those words, but he did clearly blame Israel for responding to Hizbullah’s “provocations” — just as in the current crisis he blames Israel for fighting back against Hamastan.

Brzezinski and Jimmy Carter are joined at the hip (ideologically), and both of them would yawn and allow Israel to be destroyed if it would keep them in good standing with their liberal jet-setting UN-loving pals.


42 posted on 12/30/2008 6:38:17 PM PST by Enchante (Bernie Madoff Learned His Ponzi-Investment Strategy from our Social Security System!!)
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To: Grunthor

But according to the NY Post, they hadn’t killed any Israelis. And if there were casualties, they were no where near the 300 people dead from a war started b/c of Israeli elections.


43 posted on 12/30/2008 6:47:08 PM PST by sobieski
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To: Enchante

Disagreeing with a foreign state does not make someone an ‘anti-semite’.

According to the pro-Israel NY Post, there aren’t any Jews being killed right now but that the Israelis started the war b/c the government was behind in the polls. However, there are significant Palestinian casualties. Exactly how many dead Arabs “push the limits of indifference to you, Mr. Enchante”?

As an American, I don’t follow Hezbullah’s ‘provocations’, so I can’t tell what you are talking about. I don’t follow foreign states.

You must know that Pres. Carter delivered peace to Israel through the Egypt/Israel deal. More than Pres GW Bush accomplished.


44 posted on 12/30/2008 6:52:28 PM PST by sobieski
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To: sobieski
The Kadima junta is posturing on the basis of elections. However, Hamas declare the ceasefure/Hudna over even after Olmert had 240 Palestinians released in a show of good faith last week.

What should Israel have down when Hamas declared war and started raining rockets on Israel?
45 posted on 12/30/2008 6:54:07 PM PST by rmlew (The loyal opposition to a regime dedicated to overthrowing the Constitution are accomplices.)
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To: sobieski
The idiots at the NY Post have no sloe ownership of the truth and being neocons are at heart post nationalists.
Stop sucking up for an ass because he is an expat countryman. It is demeaning to Poles.
46 posted on 12/30/2008 6:56:01 PM PST by rmlew (The loyal opposition to a regime dedicated to overthrowing the Constitution are accomplices.)
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To: rmlew

I’m an Irish American, who chose the name “Sobieski’ thanks to his beating the Muzzies in Vienna on 9/11 1683.

The neo-cons are post-American nationalists but ironically pro-Israel nationalists. Go figure.


47 posted on 12/30/2008 6:58:05 PM PST by sobieski
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To: rmlew

This is not a just war. The response (300 dead vs none dead) is not proportionate. Throw in the political motives, and it is unjust.


48 posted on 12/30/2008 6:58:56 PM PST by sobieski
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To: reg45

“Zbigniew Brzezinski is an embarrassment to all freedom loving Polish people.”

As a person of Polish descent I cringe anytime a moron like ZB speaks.


49 posted on 12/30/2008 7:03:58 PM PST by School of Rational Thought (Sarah Palin - High ideals on high heels)
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To: sobieski
I’m an Irish American, who chose the name “Sobieski’ thanks to his beating the Muzzies in Vienna on 9/11 1683.
But the attack on the Ottomans was disproportionate. More Ottoman tropps died and it was all of Europe ganging up on poor Turkey.

The neo-cons are post-American nationalists but ironically pro-Israel nationalists.
No they are not. They defend Israel on the basis of it being a "democracy" at the same time they seek to promote democracy by the sword in the Islamic world. If their Jacobin delusions were magically sucessful, their plans would undermine their only liberal defense of Israel.
As right-liberals, thier defense of a nation-state is an unprincipled exception, one which crumbles to the left, barring a screaming match of racism.
And I would note Irish Americans who support the unification of Ireland are no better.

PS. There is now a pretty good Vodka buy the name Sobieski.

50 posted on 12/30/2008 7:05:34 PM PST by rmlew (The loyal opposition to a regime dedicated to overthrowing the Constitution are accomplices.)
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