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Border Patrol shot at with automatic weapons while uncovering new smuggling tactic’s
BorderFireReport ^ | 12/18/08 | Michael Webster, Syndicated Investigative Reporter

Posted on 12/18/2008 12:03:38 PM PST by Sammy67

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To: Brookhaven
Its not, it is designed to slow down those that try and enter. . .to allow time for the BP to arrive.

No fence is able to keep a determined person willing to take risks and use ingenuity. Look at the Berlin Wall, people escaped through that death trap right up to it being torn down. Most attempted escapees were caught by the guards, with some killed, with few actually making it.

So, basically, raising the border fence bar (so to speak) to include keeping people out. . .period. . .is unreasonable.

41 posted on 12/18/2008 1:32:43 PM PST by Hulka
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To: Sammy67

The drone can find a tow truck with cargo but not detect the earth moving equipment building an 18 foot berm at the fence? Somebodies being paid to look the other way and/or alter evidence and records.
Post #1894355 from last year comes to mind. Was about Blackhawks being deployed after drones spotted illegals.


42 posted on 12/18/2008 1:40:21 PM PST by Old Flat Toad (Pima county- Home of the single vehicle accident with 40 victims.)
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To: Sammy67
Couple this with the other story about the gang war using weapons acquired in the United States. I don't think so. Full auto weapons are nearly impossible to obtain and exceedingly expensive when you can find them via legal channels. It's more likely the corrupt Mexican government supplying firearms to their "friends" in the cartels.
43 posted on 12/18/2008 1:46:09 PM PST by Myrddin
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To: r9etb
At any rate, you didn't mention that illegal immigration or illegal drugs are nothing more than folks acting to meet a demand that exists north of the border. The driver for both problems is Americans who are willing to pay for illegal stuff -- be it drugs or labor. Deal with the demand side, and the supply side takes care of itself....

Why? I don't understand why you are asking me this. Of course I believe in hunger as a great motivator. That's why I believe all these Mexicans are willing to bust their arses picking berries and doing janitorial work.
I have no solution for dealing with the demand side. I don't believe the US is willing to do take the steps that would make it so that people will take the jobs(picking berries, srubbing floors) that would halt the demand for more cheap labor. People would rather the social safety net catch them.

44 posted on 12/18/2008 1:59:38 PM PST by MovementConservative (Not a Bush Republican, a Limbaugh/Levin conservative.)
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To: humblegunner
First rate journalism, that.

It's unfortunate that the word "journalism" has nearly become synonymous with the word "shoddy".

45 posted on 12/18/2008 2:02:16 PM PST by TChris (So many useful idiots...)
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To: Old Flat Toad
That is what the SBInet is supposed to address, among other issues. SBInet includes steps taken to monitor beyond the border, the catch them before they can set up.
46 posted on 12/18/2008 2:11:07 PM PST by Hulka
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To: MovementConservative
Why? I don't understand why you are asking me this.

Well, you offered legalization of marijuana as a means of relieving border pressure with respect to drug traffic ... I was just extrapolating to the ostensible "real" reason for the concern over border security.

I was also pointing out there there is more than one way to manage the issue.

47 posted on 12/18/2008 3:20:51 PM PST by r9etb
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To: Sammy67

Tancredo for president.


48 posted on 12/18/2008 3:25:03 PM PST by Marauder ("I won't be wronged, I won't be lied to, and I won't be laid a hand on." - J.B. Books)
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To: Sammy67; HiJinx; Borax Queen; idratherbepainting; AZHSer; Sabertooth; A Navy Vet; Lion Den Dan; ...

Border/Drugs/Drug War-Lords PING


49 posted on 12/18/2008 3:27:26 PM PST by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country! What else needs said?)
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To: SandRat

Thanks for the ping.


50 posted on 12/18/2008 3:52:43 PM PST by GOPJ (Gun Control-:- like trying to control stray dogs by neutering veterinarians.- G. Jonas)
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To: Sammy67
An official close to the investigation tells the Laguna Journal that agents did not return fire when they were fired upon. Later an agent who wants to remain anonymous says many Border Patrol agents are fearful of losing there job or worse being arrested should they return fire particularly since the Ramos and Compean case. “These men are still in prison for doing what many of us think was just doing their jobs as Border Patrol Agents.

THAT is one of the major problems with our Southern Border. And it's not going to go away. Unless we can convince Barry O' that it was HIS idea to put the unemployed to work building the fence (the right way) as one of his "jobs" programs. (Since he can't recall what he ever says and says "I didn't say that" when it's on YouTube that he DID, he will probably believe that it WAS his idea.)
51 posted on 12/18/2008 3:57:17 PM PST by HighlyOpinionated (Cultural conditions, not gun laws, are the most important factors in a nation's crime rate.)
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To: Brookhaven

Your definition of “quickly” is __________ minutes?


52 posted on 12/18/2008 4:21:33 PM PST by B4Ranch ( Veterans: "There is no expiration date on our oath, to protect America from all enemies, ...")
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To: Sammy67
The alarming issue remains that Obama has not made any public statements concerning the out of control drug cartel of Mexico.It's like they tend to think if they ignore the problem it will go away
53 posted on 12/18/2008 8:48:06 PM PST by HollyButler
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To: SandRat; PGalt

Thanks for pinging me, I am passing it on.


54 posted on 12/18/2008 9:10:22 PM PST by nw_arizona_granny (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/1990507/posts?page=7451 [Survival,food,garden,crafts,and more)
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To: TonyStark

Bring it on, head shots for all.


55 posted on 12/18/2008 9:18:10 PM PST by MaxMax (I'll welcome death when God calls me. Until then, the fight is on)
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