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What if the President was a FRAUD?
email: ConservativeActionAlerts | 12/13/2008 | Gary Kreep

Posted on 12/13/2008 3:36:19 AM PST by IbJensen

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This is the worst political mess ever to confront Americans, especially now that the Illinois political machine mess has risen from the sewers of Chicago to the front pages of the few reliable newspapers left.
1 posted on 12/13/2008 3:36:19 AM PST by IbJensen
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“A comprehensive debunking of arguments that Obama is ineligible for the presidency.”

http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/claims-of-obama-proofers-go-poof


2 posted on 12/13/2008 3:43:53 AM PST by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo...Sum Pro Vita. (Modified DeCartes))
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To: IbJensen

Give it up.


3 posted on 12/13/2008 3:45:30 AM PST by xlib
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To: SumProVita
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4 posted on 12/13/2008 3:46:24 AM PST by Fred911 (YOU GET WHAT YOU ACCEPT)
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To: IbJensen
The sad truth of the matter is that President-elect Barack Obama has REFUSED to provide proof that he is constitutionally qualified to hold the office!

What authoritative request or demand has he refused?

If he traveled to Pakistan with an American passport, he wouldn't have been allowed in – since Pakistan was in turmoil in 1981 and under martial law. It was also on the State Department's travel ban list for U.S. citizens

This is a lie, and anybody who repeats it without evidence has zero credibility.

5 posted on 12/13/2008 3:46:51 AM PST by Jim Noble (Keep hope alive)
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To: Fred911

Either speaking from ignorance or tiredness is not the same as being ineligible for the office of POTUS (much as I dislike Obama).


6 posted on 12/13/2008 3:50:05 AM PST by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo...Sum Pro Vita. (Modified DeCartes))
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To: IbJensen

Worst political mess? The birth certificate thing? Hardly.


7 posted on 12/13/2008 3:56:40 AM PST by Mobile Vulgus
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To: IbJensen; LucyT

Thanks, IbJensen for the great thread.

Save the Constitution Ping.


8 posted on 12/13/2008 3:58:54 AM PST by Iowan
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To: xlib

http://www.michnews.com/artman/publish/article_21627.shtml


9 posted on 12/13/2008 3:59:40 AM PST by IbJensen (The fat lady has sung and it was awful. Coming up: Maya Angelou!)
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A comprehensive debunking of arguments that Obama is ineligible for the presidency.”

This debunking starts with the premise that Obama was born in Hawaii. OK, show me proof he was. The COLB posted on Obama’s website as “proof” has enough people saying it’s a fraud to make me look twice. Why won’t he produce a valid birth certificate like I have and had to produce to do MANY of the things I had to do over the years like get a driver’s license, get a passport, get my job......

But Obama refuses and spends big $$ to play lawyer games in court.

I don’t believe in black helicopters but I do believe in common sense.

The SOB is lying and I want to know why. He sealed his school records, his Illinois voting records have disappeared, his terrorist “friends” and relatives say to me he’s an extremist beyond anything I would find acceptable.

That’s what common sense tells me. Manchurian Candidate? Seems like a valid argument, the press ran a black candidate, not a Marxist that he really is.


10 posted on 12/13/2008 4:02:12 AM PST by BILL_C (Jimmy Carter brought us Ronald Regan, Obama's contribution will be equally good. Is it Sarah?)
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To: xlib
Give it up.

Too easy to sit back, relax and watch the nation sink.

An interesting thought just occurred. I wonder if a President Obama would do what our sitting president refuses to do: pardon Campean and Ramos?

Never happen, but much will ensue after January 20 that will violently shake this nation.

11 posted on 12/13/2008 4:04:34 AM PST by IbJensen (The fat lady has sung and it was awful. Coming up: Maya Angelou!)
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To: BILL_C
He is truly the Shadow President.

Thanks to the totally corrupt Illinois political apparatus an empty suit has been propelled into the White House.

12 posted on 12/13/2008 4:07:00 AM PST by IbJensen (The fat lady has sung and it was awful. Coming up: Maya Angelou!)
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Oh, please. Philip Berg also believes the WTC attack was a controlled demolition.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philip_J._Berg


13 posted on 12/13/2008 4:11:10 AM PST by xlib
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“Too easy to sit back, relax and watch the nation sink.

...much will ensue after January 20 that will violently shake this nation.”

He won. Deal with it. If you want to “watch the nation sink,” let SCOTUS declare the man who just won 53% of the vote ineligible. See if that doesn’t “violently shake this nation.”


14 posted on 12/13/2008 4:20:29 AM PST by xlib
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To: IbJensen
   That's why Obama has continually REFUSED to produce a valid copy of his vaulted birth certificate.

   That's why his teams of attorney have continually tried to BLOCK efforts to compel him to produce his vaulted birth certificate.


  Obama and his lawyers still believe that the Constitution means something. Otherwise, they wouldn't make the effort to obfuscate and deceive.
15 posted on 12/13/2008 4:26:53 AM PST by Maurice Tift (You can't stop the signal, Mal. You can never stop the signal.)
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To: xlib; ExTexasRedhead
Thanks to ExTexasRedhead:

Change . Change Change!

Not long ago I read a joke ... It said all the politicians running for president are promising change to the American people.

We send them billions and billions of tax dollars and they send us the change. Funny?

Not really; there is too much truth in it to be funny.That got me to thinking ... They all promise change.

How about if they run on a promise of restoration rather than change.

A restoration that would take us back in time to a place where things ran better, smoother and life was more enjoyable.

Change? That, in truth, is what they have been giving us all along.

We used to have a strong dollar ... Politicians changed that.

Life used to be sacred ... Politicians changed that.

Marriage used to be sacred ... Politicians are changing that.

We used to be respected around the world ... Politicians changed that.

We used to have a strong manufacturing economy ... Politicians changed that.

We used to have lower tax structures ... Politicians changed that.

We used to enjoy more freedoms ... Politicians changed that.

We used to be a large exporter of American made goods ... Politicians changed that.

We used to be an openly Christian nation ... Politicians changed that.

We used to teach patriotism in schools ... Politicians changed that.

We used to educate children in schools ... Politicians changed that.

We used to enjoy freedom of speech ... Politicians changed that.

We used to enforce LEGAL citizenship ... Politicians changed that.

We used to have affordable food & gas prices ... Politicians changed that, too and one could go on and on with this list.

What hasn’t been changed, politicians are promising to change that as well if you will elect them.

When, oh when, is America going to sit back with open eyes and look at what we once were and where we have come and say, enough is enough?

The trouble is, America’s youthful voters today don’t know of the great America that existed forty and fifty years ago. They see the world as if it has always existed, as it is now.

When will we wake up? Tomorrow may be too late. When will America realize.

Politicians are what is wrong with America?

16 posted on 12/13/2008 4:28:07 AM PST by IbJensen (The fat lady has sung and it was awful. Coming up: Maya Angelou!)
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“What if... you woke up one morning and found out that the President of the United States was a USURPER... a FRAUD... a PHONY? “
>...............
sad to say it, with, the last 4 years of the liberal moves of our current president make me feel he also can fit that description.
Dem or GOP we are being ruled not governed


17 posted on 12/13/2008 4:29:12 AM PST by shadowgovernment (From the Ashes of a Republican rout will raise a Conservative Party)
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To: IbJensen
I'm not saying that President-elect Obama is NOT constitutionally eligible to be President of the United States.

The problem is we simply do not know!


Of course we know!

Read this chart. It explains why Obama is not a natural born citizen in a manner anyone can understand.

The Natural Born Citizen Chart


18 posted on 12/13/2008 4:29:12 AM PST by Beckwith (Typical white person)
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It explains why Obama is not a natural born citizen in a manner anyone can understand.

There are a few here who refute this. Forget that his grandmother and other relatives stated that they were present at his birth in 1961 in Kenya.

19 posted on 12/13/2008 4:30:55 AM PST by IbJensen (The fat lady has sung and it was awful. Coming up: Maya Angelou!)
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To: shadowgovernment
Dem or GOP we are being ruled not governed.

Sad, but true.

We have, it appears, continued to elect a majority of liberal pansies to rule and ruin our lives and our country.

20 posted on 12/13/2008 4:32:47 AM PST by IbJensen (The fat lady has sung and it was awful. Coming up: Maya Angelou!)
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