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The Great Birth Certificate Scandal Cover-Up of 2008
The New Media Journal ^ | Nov 24, 2008 | Joan Swirsky

Posted on 11/24/2008 9:08:33 AM PST by NewMediaJournal

This week, newscasters reported that al Qaeda’s #2 terrorist disparaged the election of Barack Obama, and hurled racial slurs at Obama himself. “The report has not been confirmed by the State Department,” they all said, but they reported it anyway.

Last week, Fox News reporter Carl Cameron told viewers that three “anonymous” insiders of Sen. McCain’s campaign said that Sarah Palin was, in essence, a diva and a dunce. He – and dozens of others who picked up the story on other channels – never identified, or even verified, the sources of the quotes, but they reported them anyway.

Contrast these shabby examples of “journalism” with the legions of identifiable, verifiable and credible sources who for months have been investigating the disturbing allegation that Barack Obama is ineligible for the presidency because he has failed to meet one of the three requirements that the U.S. Constitution mandates, specifically that he provide proof of his “natural born” U.S. citizenship.

What follows is a partial list of people and organizations that have challenged Obama’s eligibility. Further on I will comment on how egregious the media’s failure to cover this story has been. And last, I will speculate on the reason for the cover-up of this full-blown scandal.

(Excerpt) Read more at newmediajournal.us ...


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1 posted on 11/24/2008 9:08:34 AM PST by NewMediaJournal
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To: NewMediaJournal

One of this guy’s sources is WingNutDaily. Nuff said.


2 posted on 11/24/2008 9:10:03 AM PST by steve-b (Intelligent design is to evolutionary biology what socialism is to free-market economics.)
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To: NewMediaJournal

And you wonder why Bambi has surrounded himself by the Clinton goons, the best people to be around when you want to cover up the dirt!


3 posted on 11/24/2008 9:10:32 AM PST by Edizzl79 (you want my guns..come and get em...I dare ya....)
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To: NewMediaJournal
Obama's bin lyin about his career and entire life, from birth on, through his upbrining. Sooner or later it will catch up to him and his crystal palace will come crashing down.

THE AUDACITY OF TRUTH ABOUT BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA'S UPBRINGING

4 posted on 11/24/2008 9:11:16 AM PST by Jeff Head (Freedom is not free...never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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To: NewMediaJournal

A good column until it gets into that Flying Saucer type paranoia at the end. That really undermines the entire article fatally, I think.

She should cut that stuff out and stick with what is verifiable.


5 posted on 11/24/2008 9:14:23 AM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: NewMediaJournal

Very interesting, uselss none the less....


6 posted on 11/24/2008 9:15:01 AM PST by fml (So?)
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To: steve-b

I don’t see any such reference. Can you provide a cite?


7 posted on 11/24/2008 9:15:17 AM PST by Post Toasties (It's not a smear if it's true.)
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To: steve-b
Nuff said.

You are a real lib-turd , arent you Stevie? Look at the list, and review the evidence. Metrosexual Etrodonaire Obama was born overseas; theres scant evidence to the contrary (short form b.c. doesent make his case in the least)

8 posted on 11/24/2008 9:15:36 AM PST by Nonstatist
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To: Jeff Head
Obama's bin lyin about his career and entire life, from birth on, through his upbrining. Sooner or later it will catch up to him and his crystal palace will come crashing down.

Maybe but by that time all of the damage will be done. He doesn't have a certified birth certificate. He's brought out this cabinet BS to push hs agenda forward as if the SC wouldn't dare rule against him. So we will see if we have a constitution or is this a banana republic.

9 posted on 11/24/2008 9:17:37 AM PST by Digger (If RINO is your selection, then failure is your election)
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To: Post Toasties

“According to WorldNetDaily, blogger Jeff Schreiber “

6th paragraph..

But that’s only one of many sources sited.


10 posted on 11/24/2008 9:19:21 AM PST by Bigh4u2 (Denial is the first requirement to be a liberal)
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To: Cicero
Total kook stuff. But even the birth certificate stuff is just ridiculous at this point.

Say it is "discovered" in 2009 fact true that he was born in Kenya? What then? Does ANYONE seriously think either he would a) resign or b) be removed by Congress or the people? More than likely, Congress would embark on a Constitutional amendment that would be disastrous, and would possibly lead to Arnold running for the presidency in 2012.

Ponder that for a moment.

My political predictions haven't been too good, but I think this one is a lock: the birth certificate stuff will come to absolutely nothing.

11 posted on 11/24/2008 9:20:30 AM PST by LS ("Castles made of sand, fall in the sea . . . eventually." (Hendrix))
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To: steve-b
One of this guy’s sources is WingNutDaily. Nuff said.

It's past time the moderators booted a brain-dead liberal trolls like yourself.

12 posted on 11/24/2008 9:21:58 AM PST by Ol' Sparky (Liberal Republicans are the greater of two evils)
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To: Nonstatist

You are a real lib-turd , arent you Stevie?

Bingo! A dyed-in-the-wool godless evolutionist!


13 posted on 11/24/2008 9:22:19 AM PST by rj45mis
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To: LS
We should first determine where in fact the president elect was born and what his real name is. The American people have a right to know that. Then, we can determine what, if anything, needs to be done.
14 posted on 11/24/2008 9:23:57 AM PST by paul51 (11 September 2001 - Never forget)
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To: steve-b
One of this guy’s sources is WingNutDaily. Nuff said.

WorldnetDaily has reported that steve-b is from Virgina. Clearly he must be from somewhere else.

15 posted on 11/24/2008 9:24:45 AM PST by ElkGroveDan (Reagan is back, and this time he's a woman.)
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To: paul51
And I'm saying it isn't going to matter if he was born on Mars and has a name our earthly tongues cannot pronounce. He will be president in 2009, and in 2010, and in 2011, and in 2012. After that, I don't know.

This stuff is taking on a Clintonesque "Mena" tone that was incredibly destructive to the GOP in the 1990s and only strengthened Clinton.

16 posted on 11/24/2008 9:28:20 AM PST by LS ("Castles made of sand, fall in the sea . . . eventually." (Hendrix))
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To: LS

Personally I couldn’t care less what the popular kids will think. We have a right to know if the man is constitutionally eligible to hold office. Worrying about whether it hurts the party is a sentiment that should have died with the soviet union.


17 posted on 11/24/2008 9:34:45 AM PST by cripplecreek (The poor bastards have us surrounded.)
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To: Post Toasties

FWIW

It’s in the full article, along with a blogger quoted but that doesn’t mean Obama isn’t hiding something.

Which he clearly is.


18 posted on 11/24/2008 9:41:12 AM PST by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, John 11:25, 14:6, 1 Tim 2:5, John 3:17-18, John 20:31, 1 John 5:13, John 6:69)
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To: steve-b

say there.....
did you go and read the entire article?

If not Please do...a long read but worth it. I’ve printed it up and will keep alert.

very interesting to say the least...

every American should READ this..scary as he!!, at least to me it is...


19 posted on 11/24/2008 9:41:39 AM PST by haircutter
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To: LS
I think it may matter but there is no point in having that debate until it is determined whether or not it is necessary.
20 posted on 11/24/2008 9:45:30 AM PST by paul51 (11 September 2001 - Never forget)
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To: cripplecreek

Sigh. Has nothing to do with “popularity.” You’re still in the 1990s. This is NOT going to be an issue, will never be an issue, and for ANYONE to waste time on this is detracting from Obama’s real, and serious, flaws.


21 posted on 11/24/2008 9:47:12 AM PST by LS ("Castles made of sand, fall in the sea . . . eventually." (Hendrix))
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To: paul51

Don’t kid yourself. People on this board and other blogs are desperate to “prove” that Obama isn’t a citizen as if that would change ANYTHING. It will not. The American public gets what it wants, and right now they want Obama.


22 posted on 11/24/2008 9:48:14 AM PST by LS ("Castles made of sand, fall in the sea . . . eventually." (Hendrix))
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To: LS

If a guy cheats and wins, do you award him a victory? I’m not convinced the American people say yes regardless what they want.


23 posted on 11/24/2008 9:51:58 AM PST by paul51 (11 September 2001 - Never forget)
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To: NewMediaJournal
[long whistle]

For most of the article I was "on board." It's clear, factual, and well-written. It really is stunning to realize how much SILENCE there is, and while that silence has long contributed to my own skepticism on this issue, I cannot help but be baffled by the Dark Lord's persistent refusal to do the one simple thing that would explode all of this nonsense once and for all: Present a certified vault copy of his Birth Certificate proving he was born in Hawaii. Claims that he has done this already fall to the ground as the obfuscation that it is because he has not done so: all he's presented is a current-day print out which certifies his live birth. There are several ways that his birth could have been registered fraudulently, and there is certainly enough doubt as to the veracity of that document, itself, that leads one to wish to see at least a copy of "the original." WHY such hasn't been presented by now is the $10,000 question. I, too, would like to see that document. Or, in the very least, know that the 9 members of the US Supreme Court have seen it and have verified that it is real and that he was born in Hawaii. I'd accept that, too.

But then the author of this article goes off the deep-end. The unbridled speculation about Nukes in our cities and blackmail (no pun intended) and collusion between the media and the White House and, of all groups, the NYT taking marching orders from Bush!!!!! [hahahahahaha] ... no ... sorry. That's just utter, unadulterated, Barbara Streisand.
24 posted on 11/24/2008 9:52:25 AM PST by TexasGreg ("Democrats Piss Me Off")
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To: NewMediaJournal

It has become obvious that there is an intentional cover up of this issue. They report on way more mundane things in the news and they are going out of their way to avoid reporting on more than a handful of court cases regarding the COLB.

The fact that this is going before the SUPREME COURT is reason enough to report, they aren’t. Not even Rush, Hannity (who reports on the whisperings of a gnat) and others.

THIS IS INTENTIONAL PEOPLE.


25 posted on 11/24/2008 9:52:30 AM PST by autumnraine (Churchill: " we shall fight in the fields and in the streets, we shall never surrender")
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To: steve-b

So if I can find an example of something you said, that was also said by someone whom you don’t like, does that mean you’ll stop listening to yourself?


26 posted on 11/24/2008 9:56:02 AM PST by MarineBrat (You can only find truth with logic if you have already found truth without it.)
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To: steve-b
A detroit radio station called the Kenyan embassy after the election of Obama. After a lot of trouble they get through to the ambassador of Kenya.

The ambassador of Kenya says that obama was born in Kenya and that his birth place has become a national shrine.

Listen to the recording here

The quote is around 12:35, so if you don’t have time to listen to the whole thing, you can jump ahead.
The transcript reads:

Radio Jockey: President elect Obama's birth place over in Kenya -- is that going to be a national spot where he was born

Ambassador Peter Ogego: its already an attraction. his paternal grandmother is still alive

Radio Jockey:But his birth place...they'll put up a marker there

Ambassdor Peter Ogego: It would depend on the government. Its already well known.

Here is an abridged Utube version of the the radio interview. So you can hear just the relevant parts.

It can be reasonably pointed out that the DJ was trying to entrap the Ambassador and that the Ambassador fell into his trap.
However, if you listen to the long version of the radio interview --you’ll notice he used the same strategy on two different occasions and the ambassador gently brushed him off.

First, he tried to force the ambassador to sing the Kenyan national anthem. The ambassador referred him to the kenyan website.

Second he tried to push the ambassador into saying something about maybe Kenya becoming the 51st state. Again the ambassador said that Kenya was a sovereign country. ie No.

He used the same technique on the question of Obama’s birth place. This time the ambassador said yes.

Because the ambassador answered no in the two previous examples -- you can't say that the ambassdor was either a fool or ill advised.

Finally, you might ask well doesn't he know that saying Obama is born in Kenya would make trouble for Obama? The answer there is why should he be concerned? He has heard no suggestion in the mainstream media that there might be a problem there. So to say what is already well known--as he says--would be no problem.

Here is a utube video of Ambassador Peter Ogego speaking at a conference. Ambassador of Kenya H.E. Peter Ogego To verify that the voice on the radio is Ambassador Ogego-- compare the radio voice with the DJ to the voice on the Utube that goes with Ambassador Ogego. Ambassador Peter Ogego is introduced a bit after minute 18..

They are the same.


Be sure to download the recording as well. The chances of it remaining online for long are remote.


The Arnold would have run for president long ago and likely won if he were a "natural born" american. He's not. He's naturalized. So he can't run. And he knows it. (though there were some trial balloons sent up a couple years back about changing the law--that went nowhere.)

Like the Arnold, Obama looks to be a naturalized citizen--but maybe he's not even that.

In any case the supreme court--at Justice Thomas instigation-- is taking up the issue Dec 5
27 posted on 11/24/2008 9:56:39 AM PST by ckilmer (Phi)
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To: NewMediaJournal

Just like the MSM covered the story of John Edwards’ mistress.

The National Enquirer will have to break this story.


28 posted on 11/24/2008 9:57:58 AM PST by Bon mots
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To: LS

“…I think this one is a lock: the birth certificate stuff will come to absolutely nothing.”

With respect, that is true only if good men do nothing. Meanwhile, to some of us, your statement sounds like “throw-in-the-towel” flavored koolaid.

Think it possible O and Hillary, both rabid Marxists, listen to the same consultants (handlers)?
Think it relevant O would pull an ostensibly political dumb stunt like appointing a number of ex-Clinton insiders?

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STAND UP AMERICA! The presidential election is not over!
We voted for electors, not the individual candidates. The electors vote on or after December 15, 2009. The results are then presented to a joint session of Congress and objections may be heard on January 8, 2009. See the letter on my About page hand-delivered to the local offices of my Republican Senators and Representatives. I urge you to take similar action, even if it is simply faxing a one page letter to Washington, D.C.


29 posted on 11/24/2008 9:58:20 AM PST by frog in a pot (Is there a definition of "domestic enemies" as used in federal oaths, or is that just lip service?)
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To: Nonstatist

Steve trolls the COLB threads and does the ‘Nuff said’ bit on all of them.

If I’m not mistaken, he’s done a “mother was a citizen, he is a citizen, nuff said” on another thread showing complete incompetance and understanding of the Constitutional requirements for POTUS.


30 posted on 11/24/2008 9:58:42 AM PST by autumnraine (Churchill: " we shall fight in the fields and in the streets, we shall never surrender")
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To: LS
This is NOT going to be an issue, will never be an issue, and for ANYONE to waste time on this is detracting from Obama’s real, and serious, flaws.

Apparently it was important enough for you to waste time here trying to get people to forget about it. It's not working.
31 posted on 11/24/2008 10:01:08 AM PST by cripplecreek (The poor bastards have us surrounded.)
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To: LS

So because you don’t think it’s a big deal, we should just let it go?

Ok, everyone. LS thinks it’s no big deal and that the President having to prove his is a natural born citizen is a waste of time.

Move along here. Nothing to see. Constitution, Smontitution.


32 posted on 11/24/2008 10:02:08 AM PST by autumnraine (Churchill: " we shall fight in the fields and in the streets, we shall never surrender")
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To: Ol' Sparky

Yeah! If I’m not mistaken, isn’t ‘Wing Nut’ a slang deragatory term for a right wing person?


33 posted on 11/24/2008 10:03:22 AM PST by autumnraine (Churchill: " we shall fight in the fields and in the streets, we shall never surrender")
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To: LS
I resent your post. I am not “desperate to prove” that Obama is not a citizen. I believe Obama was born in Hawaii and that he qualifies as a natural-born citizen, as the Constitution requires he be to be President. However, I do not believe it should be up to the judgment of any individual (like me) whether someone is eligible to be President. Obama should release a certified copy of his birth certificate, as he should have done in June, when John McCain released his.
34 posted on 11/24/2008 10:10:17 AM PST by utahagen
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To: autumnraine

http://travel.state.gov/law/info/info_609.html

Please then explain how being born abroad changes anything, even if it is true? From my reading of the law as above, it sure looks to me like he’d be a “natural born citizen” either way.

If the framers meant “born on US soil” then they could easily have said that. But they merely said you had to be born a citizen. This is of course to distinguish from “naturalized” citizens that acquire their citizenship sometime later in life. Even if his mother had traveled to Africa, he was still born a citizen.

If I’m wrong about this please point it out.


35 posted on 11/24/2008 10:14:15 AM PST by Ramius (Personally, I give us... one chance in three. More tea?)
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To: NewMediaJournal

Here’s a good petition against Obama:
http://www.rallycongress.com/constitutional-qualification/1244


36 posted on 11/24/2008 10:25:48 AM PST by real_patriotic_american
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To: NewMediaJournal
I've written several books, not one of them fictional. And thousands of articles, not one of them based on sinister suspicions or conspiracy theories....

Could it be that shortly after the president's reelection, he and major government officials received highly credible evidence from America’s ruthless Islamist enemies that they had a number of devastating (probably nuclear suitcase) weapons – set up and ready to be activated in as many as six-to-10 of our major cities – unless he (the president) tacked left and played nice for the following two years?

Uh... yeah... this author doesn't resort to "sinister suspicions or conspiracy theories" here, no sirree Bob!

Sheesh.

37 posted on 11/24/2008 10:37:23 AM PST by steve-b (Intelligent design is to evolutionary biology what socialism is to free-market economics.)
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To: Ramius

“Birth Abroad to One Citizen and One Alien Parent in Wedlock: ... For birth between December 24, 1952 and November 13, 1986, a period of ten years, five after the age of fourteen are required for physical presence in the U.S. to transmit U.S. citizenship to the child.”


38 posted on 11/24/2008 10:41:47 AM PST by devere
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To: TexasGreg

I agree. I wish she hadn’t nutted at the end.


39 posted on 11/24/2008 10:43:52 AM PST by autumnraine (Churchill: " we shall fight in the fields and in the streets, we shall never surrender")
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To: frog in a pot; All

When I kept hearing pre-election “If this was anything, Hillary would have exposed this”, I was curious about that too.

Now that I see he is filling his cabinet up with ex-Clintonites and Hillary herself is getting the primo position with her own staff...

Well, that answers that, at least to my satisfaction.


40 posted on 11/24/2008 10:46:46 AM PST by autumnraine (Churchill: " we shall fight in the fields and in the streets, we shall never surrender")
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To: LS
This is NOT going to be an issue, will never be an issue

Of course not. RULES are for other people, not Alinsky-trained left wing social engineers. How stupid of us even to bring it up.

41 posted on 11/24/2008 10:52:48 AM PST by Nonstatist
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To: devere

Yes, I see. It comes down to a few months shy of 5 years after the age of 14. It’s curious though how the law treats unmarried women so differently, with a much lighter standard. They could argue that since the father was already married at the time, then the mother’s marriage was void and she should get that standard instead?

Oh well...


42 posted on 11/24/2008 11:08:12 AM PST by Ramius (Personally, I give us... one chance in three. More tea?)
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To: autumnraine; All

Dear Autumnraine (what a pleasant screen name!)

There is the possibility Hillary is biding her time playing the loyal, dedicated Dem. She would not want to be cast as the evil actor that disqualified O. Certainly, Hillary and Bubba - with access to international “support” - had a Plan B from the outset.

It seems possible we have been tag-teamed.

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STAND UP AMERICA! The presidential election is not over!
We voted for electors, not the individual candidates. The electors vote on or after December 15, 2009. The results are then presented to a joint session of Congress and objections may be heard on January 8, 2009. See the letter on my About page hand-delivered to the local offices of my Republican Senators and Representatives. I urge you to take similar action, even if it is simply faxing a one page letter to Washington, D.C.


43 posted on 11/24/2008 11:11:10 AM PST by frog in a pot (Is there a definition of "domestic enemies" as used in federal oaths, or is that just lip service?)
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To: LS

It’s possible that nothing will be done, but that is no reason to shrug and shut up and ignore the facts.

Obama not only has refused to produce proof of citizenship, but he has conspired to put up a forged COLB on the internet and defend it against anyone who questions it.

This amounts to a criminal conspiracy, and if it’s not a felony level crime, it surely will rise to that level when he falsely takes his oath of office in January and swears to defend the country and the Constitution.

Clinton was never impeached or jailed, either, although he certainly should have been. Still, he suffered considerable political damage and was crippled for the remainder of his term in office. Should we have ignored clinton’s numerous crimes, just because he escaped just punishment for them?


44 posted on 11/24/2008 11:17:48 AM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: cripplecreek

“This is NOT going to be an issue, will never be an issue, and for ANYONE to waste time on this is detracting from Obama’s real, and serious, flaws.

Apparently it was important enough for you to waste time here trying to get people to forget about it. It’s not working.”

You know, I remember before the election that supposed Freepers were on boards saying “This is a stupid thing to worry about. Let’s beat Obama on the ISSUES!” Um, yeah, that worked out real well. And now that he “won”, the man who hasn’t proven he is even eligible is getting ready to swagger into the White House.


45 posted on 11/24/2008 11:24:49 AM PST by autumnraine (Churchill: " we shall fight in the fields and in the streets, we shall never surrender")
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To: Ramius

Ok, the difference is that his FATHER WAS NOT A US CITIZEN.

http://immigration.findlaw.com/immigration/immigration-citizenship-naturalization/immigration-citizenship-naturalization-did-you-know(1).html

4. December 24, 1952 to November 13, 1986
If, at the time of your birth, both your parents were U.S. citizens and at least one had a prior residence in the United States, you automatically acquired U.S. citizenship with no conditions for retaining it.

If only one parent was a U.S. citizen at the time of your birth, that parent must have resided in the United States for at least ten years, at least five of which had to be after the age of 16. There are no conditions placed on retaining this type of citizenship. If your one U.S. citizen parent is your father and you were born outside of marriage, the same rules apply if your father legally legitimated you before your 21st birthday and you were unmarried at the time. If legitimation occurred after November 14, 1986, your father must have established paternity prior to your 18th birthday, either by acknowledgment or by court order, and must have stated in writing that he would support you financially until your 18th birthday.


46 posted on 11/24/2008 11:33:28 AM PST by autumnraine (Churchill: " we shall fight in the fields and in the streets, we shall never surrender")
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To: Ramius

So you think that natural born doesn’t mean born here? So someone born somewhere else and gets naturalized later can be President?


47 posted on 11/24/2008 11:36:26 AM PST by autumnraine (Churchill: " we shall fight in the fields and in the streets, we shall never surrender")
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To: Ramius

Barack’s father was not legally married, he was tribal married in Kenya. It was not a British state recognized marraige.


48 posted on 11/24/2008 11:38:20 AM PST by autumnraine (Churchill: " we shall fight in the fields and in the streets, we shall never surrender")
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To: frog in a pot

“Dear Autumnraine (what a pleasant screen name!)”

Thank you! That is a combination of two of my daughter’s names. I also have a Rose.


49 posted on 11/24/2008 11:39:12 AM PST by autumnraine (Churchill: " we shall fight in the fields and in the streets, we shall never surrender")
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To: autumnraine
So you think that natural born doesn’t mean born here?

A natural born citizen means a citizen from birth. Being born in the US is one way to meet this requirement, but there are others (such as being born abroad to an American citizen or citizens).

So someone born somewhere else and gets naturalized later can be President?

No, because they were not a citizen from birth.

50 posted on 11/24/2008 11:43:58 AM PST by Citizen Blade (What would Ronald Reagan do?)
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