Posted on 10/10/2008 6:11:14 PM PDT by Pagan Power
This is really starting to get out of hand. A retired Supreme Court Justice in Pennsylvania doesn't believe it will even be possible to have a fair election in her state.
Stealing Pennsylvania: "Massive Fraud"
A retired Pennsylvania Supreme Court Justice says that she is "not confident we can get a fair election" in the state come November.Justice Sandra Newman, accompanied by Dauphin County District Attorney Edward Marsico and Pennsylvania Republican State Chairman Robert Gleason, expressed her concerns at a Harrisburg press conference this morning. A thick document replete with photo copies of phony registrations and aerial shots of vacant lots used as "addresses" for "voters" was handed out to journalists.
Gleason breaks it down with the facts. And they are very troubling.
"Between March 23rd and October 1st, various groups, including ACORN, submitted over 252,595 registrations to the Philadelphia County Election Board" with 57, 435 rejected for faulty information. "Most of these registrations were submitted by ACORN, and rejected due to fake social security numbers, incorrect dates of birth, clearly fraudulent signatures, addresses that do not exist, and duplicate registrations. In one case, a man was registered to vote more than 15 times since the Primary election."
And who is behind this? None other than ACORN, the community organizing front group for Barack Obama's blatant attempt to steal this election. So much so that he gave them over $800,000 to do just that.
Who are these people? One of the more prominent members working in Delaware County, Pennsylvania has been arrested in the past for improper conduct with a minor. Read the rest of this entry>>
Hmmm. Shocker.
Here’s some good news out of the whole mess. This is what’s skewing the polls. The reason they’re oversampling Dems is because of these phoney voter registrations. Now, can they clean up the mess before the election...who knows.
Bet’s higher than that.
Three words “Positive Voter ID”
How come no one has been arrested for this?
civil war is coming.....some way, some how...
Keep Bush in there for four more years!
Pennsylvania elections are a contest of dead people and pets voting in Philly vs. the western part of the state.
FROM 2004:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1266241/posts
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1266123/posts
XXXXX DRUDGE REPORT XXXXX TUE NOV 02, 2004 09:06:35 ET XXXXX
UPDATE: VOTES ‘FOUND ON MACHINES’ IN PHILLY BEFORE POLLS OPEN
Before voting even began in Philadelphia — Republican poll watchers believed they found nearly 2000 votes already planted on machines scattered in heavy-minority locations throughout the city.
Republican poll watchers claim:
One incident occurred at the SALVATION ARMY, 2601 N. 11th St., Philadelphia, Pa: Ward 37, division 8.
Pollwatchers uncovered 4 machines with planted votes; one with over 200 and one with nearly 500...
A second location, 1901 W. Girard Ave., Berean Institute, Philadelphia, Pa, had 300+ votes already on 2 machines at start of day.
ANOTHER INCIDENT: 292 votes on machine at start of day; WARD/DIVISION: 7/7: ADDRESS: 122 W. Erie Ave., Roberto Clemente School, Philadelphia, Pa..
ANOTHER: 456 votes on machine at start of day; WARD/DIVISION: 12/3; ADDRESS: 5657 Chew Ave., storefront, Philadelphia, Pa...
Civil Uprising at least if not a Civil War.
Question is will Rendell get the fraud machine working for Obama since he is a Hillary supporter
If Bush had the sense to clean out the DOJ of Clinton lawyers and made it a priority to go after voter fraud this could have been avoided
and i heard an acorn spokesperson on the radio
saying that they were doing the best they could!
If McCain loses, what should he do? Does he need to file legal challenges? This is an issue that is beyond serious; it strikes at the very core of what this nation is about and it cannot stand.
Already posted newbie!
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2102603/posts
How about giving credit to the real authors, at American Spectator, instead of pimping your blog.
ACORN again...
we can do nothing about the fraud....it is what it is and we can only hope and pray that we have smart people who can stop a lot of it...
we need them to stop it in Ohio, Virginia, Florida and the rest of the Bush States....
that is not too much of a job....
so Iowa wants the fascist....let em....let New Mexico go too....
but we need the rest and we need to keep up the pressure...
New Hampshire can be a steal as could Maine...don't give up on Washington...and don't give up on Wisconsin or Michigan either..
FIGHT...FIGHT...FIGHT!
I credited American Spectator. The link is provided. Not sure what to make about your condescension. Mine is a blog commentary. Never meant to be anything more or less.
The link you posted is designated as Pagan Power. No where in your post did you credit the original source.
I would note that this, by itself, is not evidence of fraud on ACORN's part. The demographic they're targeting for registration (when they're registering actual people, which I assume they do at least some of) is largely clueless. The same folks that caused over 90% of ballots to have be invalidated in some Dade County, Florida precincts in 2000, because they voted for ALL THE CANDIDATES on the punch ballots -- they'd had it hammered into them not to vote just for President, but to vote for all the offices, but they were alcoholics and crackheads and retards and ignoramuses and elderly-demented who had no clue what voting is all about and thought they should punch the hole next to every candidate. There are plenty of alcoholic/crackheads in Philly who will gladly fill out a registration form every time somebody asks them to and offers them a goody (cash, cigarettes, candy bar). They won't mention that this is the 12th time this week they've filled out a registration form, because they figure they won't get the goody if they say that.
We absolutely must end the practice of allowing voter registration to be done by anyone other than elections board staff, and must make it a criminal offense to offer anyone anything of value as an inducement to register (just as it would be illegal to make such an offer as an inducement to vote).
Looks like this isn’t the first time you posted a link to your blog, and just copied someone else’s work onto it, and you give no credit to American Spectator on your blog. Here’s your entire posting history -
http://www.freerepublic.com/tag/by:paganpower/index?tab=comments;brevity=full;options=no-change
And changing the original title is frowned upon here.
That way people who search to see if the story is already posted will know if it has or not.
And it has already been posted.
Biometric voter ID. And we might as well accept that we need a national biometric ID system. Until we get that, our votes will continue to be neutralized by votes of ineligible voters who are voting themselves access to our hard-earned money.
Can or should the presidential election somehow be delayed in view of:
Obama on the upswing due to sour economy;
and
massive voter fraud which cannot guarantee the integrity of voting in so many states, particularly battleground states where it is close.
Any thoughts on this? Individual states can remove themselves from the Presidential voting schedule, correct?
New Hampshire will be a steal indeed, but by the Demonrats, who have perfected their tactic of having students (many of whom really reside out of state, and have no stake in the region anyway because they pay little or no taxes) vote.
Thank you very much for the post - I hadn’t seen it before. Personally, I don’t mind that an item is posted more than once, because these threads move like lightning!
I don’t mean to insult you but did you happen to look at the link to the article I quoted from? It’s within the post.
I posted this in the blog forum. My understanding is that this is the appropriate place for a blogger to post. If not then someone should explain the rules to me.
Comments such as yours give me the impression that my commentaries are not welcome here. Fortunately you are the only one that has said this to me. Most of the other members here have expressed appreciation.
If you don’t like what I write don’t read it. It’s a free country. As long as Obama doesn’t become President that is.
I’m trying to teach you the proper way to post a story. You did in your very first post, linking the story - “Donna Brazile Plays the Race Card. Again.” to the original source, ‘Politico’.
That’s the only time you did it that way. All the rest are linked to your blog, and when I go there, there is no credit given to where you copied it from.
More importantly, the moderators here at FreeRepublic do not want you changing the original title.
I’m pinging the admin mod so he can explain the rules to you.
Commentaries are welcome. they’re being posted at the original, which used the correct title and link.
Hang in there kid. If you can tolerate grumpy old guys like me, you’ll do OK.
Lordy, this is worse than I ever dreamed! Lots of people need to do lots of prison time before this is over.
do they ever say anywhere, in the news, tv, papers, the talking heads, anyone THAT these are democrat votes????
i always hear we have to stop all fraudulent voting - democrat and republican.
why can’t we ever just point the finger in the right direction and stop being so politically correct.
Only 1/4? That needs to be double-checked.
I am so far from being a kid that it is hilarious you used the word. I’m not quite grumpy yet though.
I did indeed quote the source of that story you mentioned in the tag provided. But when I tried to use Bloomberg as a source in another post I received a message saying that Bloomberg links weren’t allowed. That seemed outrageous to me so I have used the only format I know that isn’t biased. I believe in free expression. I am not attempting to claim anything that I did not write. My hyperlinks directly quote my sources.
The only way this stops is if there is a landslide win for McCain and the GOP retakes congress otherwise the democrats will prevent any action and the MSM will cover for them as usual
At least then you'll have to lift someone's fingerprints to pose as him. After that it's pretty easy to fool biometric readers.
Fingerprints aren’t the only form of biometric ID, and methods are getting more sophisticated and faster all the time. In my lifetime, I fully expect that we’ll have on-the-spot full DNA-matching capability. But for now, even fingerprints are VERY difficult to fake in a live setting. I.e. you may be able to fake an electronic reader by sticking something in front of it (perhaps something slipped over your own finger) that presents someone else’s fingerprint, but I really doubt anyone could pull that off with a human examiner who inspects your finger right before you place it on a reader. If everyone had to be registered in a national biometric ID system in order to vote, and had to present a finger for human-supervised reading by an electronic reader at the polls, for instant matching with a national database, then multiple voting could be eliminated in a jiffy. Show up at one precinct and vote, your identity and eligibility to vote are confirmed by your fingerprint reading, and you are flagged in the system as “voted”. Then you go to the next precinct and try to vote again, and alarm bells go off and you get arrested. Would it be perfect and glitch-free? Of course not, but it would eliminate the great majority of vote fraud.
Normally it's a thin film of latex or other material. The need to be thin (and thus hard to spot) is to fool any heat or pulse sensors. I've seen the academic paper on the subject, fingerprint biometrics are only low-grade security. But it would help to cut down casual fraud.
They are low-grade security for uses where there is no direct human inspection of the finger. E.g. as a substitute for electronic key cards that give the holder access to a building or section of a building by placing the card on or in a reader that is either completely unattended, or only casually attended by someone who is not expected to scrutinize and challenge people trying to enter, or for logging into secure computer networks, again with no one directly scrutinizing the person logging in. And of course, those are the most common type of commercial applications for biometrics these days.
But for settings such as applying in person for a passport or driver’s license, for voting in person, and — perhaps a biggie — identification of patients at hospitals and doctors’ offices, who are claiming to be a certain person, it should be very high-grade security, especially when combined with some basic training for the scrutinizers and some basic procedures for thwarting tricks like thin films of latex. Most substances that could be used to produce a film that could conceivably go undetected by someone looking at and touching the finger, should be thwartable by requiring that the finger first be pressed onto or dipped into a chemical designed to damage the fake print and/or make it much more readily visible to the human eye.
The reality of the people being used to vote multiple times at multiple precincts is that they’re mostly pretty low-income, less-educated types who don’t follow detailed technical instructions well. An organized campaign to supply and distribute large numbers of fake thin-film prints matched to real registered voters, and then get busloads of these people to apply and remove fake prints several times in one day, and always get the right print to match the registered voter they’re trying to impersonate at the next precinct, and get in on in a way that wouldn’t be detected by precinct workers or the electronic reader, would be a wildly impractical and quickly detected scheme. The threat of detection and immediate arrest for an obvious attempt to commit fraud would an additional discouragement to people being asked to participate in something like this (especially since plenty of them have criminal records already, and/or are out on parole, and/or have warrants out for their arrest.
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